Plopping on a TD05

Post by **Legacy777** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:27 pm

I just got confirmation that samco kit is headed my way. I haven't had any time to mess with putting the AWIC on, and won't for probably another month.

I would really rather not fab everything up to use the AWIC with the stock turbo, and then have to redo things when I upgrade turbos.

So I'm curious, if I were to get one of deadbolt's TD05's with the standard 90 deg outlet and plumb it up to the AWIC, and run stock boost....would I be overtaxing the fuel system?

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:59 pm

You mean one that's unmodified?

And by stock boost you mean just hooking the wastegate actuator straight to the nipple on the compressor?

You probably would be overtaxing the fuel system a little bit, especially with your CES exhaust. You have a wideband oxygen sensor, right? So you could tell.

If you do need more fuel, you could just throw on a rising-rate fuel pressure regulator and bleed most of the signal off..

Post by **Legacy777** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:34 am

I guess I was just looking at their TD05H-16G standard 90 deg inlet.

The only thing I would probably do is get it ceramic coated. I'd have to look into the ported version to see what benefits it would provide.

Stock boost....I was meaning stock tlegacy boost aprox 9 psig. What is the standard wastegate pressure? Yeah I have a wideband.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:55 am

Ah, yeah, I just was making sure you didn't mean the reclocked one.

The wastegate actuator on the TD05 produces about 9 psi, so stock boost control won't work but also isn't necessary.

Kelly · Post by **Kelly** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:39 am

I put down 215WHP with stock injectors, stock ECU, stock turbo, Walbro pump.

Still had fuel.

You'll be fine below 15 PSI.

LaureltheQueen · Post by **LaureltheQueen** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:38 am

I've got more fuel than I can handle. Maybe we can trade and I'll just transfer some to you.

wiscon_mark · Post by **wiscon_mark** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:41 am

I'm no turbo expert, but the Walbro fuel pump is the first mod along the fuel injection improvment lines, and the only necessary one until you go crazy with the boost.

@ Laurel...give me some fuel

Project_Legacy · Post by **Project_Legacy** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:01 am

rallitektech wrote:I put down 215WHP with stock injectors, stock ECU, stock turbo, Walbro pump.

Still had fuel.

You'll be fine below 15 PSI.

how'd u put those kind of numbers?? that sounds like something i want to do. what other upgrades besides that did u have? front mount? pulley kit? exhaust? and that was with the TD-05 correct?

legacy92ej22t · Post by **legacy92ej22t** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:04 pm

Plop away Josh, plop away!

You'll be fine running 9 psi on the TD05H-16G.

Off boost driveabilty is sooo much nicer on the 16G too. The compressor housing is much larger then the VF11 and so you get much better flow.

Post by **Legacy777** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:11 pm

Excellent!

Thanks for the feedback. Once I get my exam out of the way, I'll look into getting one of these guys from deadbolt, and getting the AWIC installed.

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:51 pm

I noticed a big difference in drivability with the vf8. The larger compressor is noticable when you are off boost. The CES crosspipe up front even made a different sound. It is still fluttery like it was before, but it has a different tone to it. I'm not sure if it is related or not, but I figured the larger exhaust side of the turbo is what caused that.

Kelly · Post by **Kelly** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:43 am

Ditto on the off boost driveability. Much MUCH smoother boosting, and low end tourque. My car is actually tourquey! I shift at 3K in town all the time!

Fuel lines are not neccisarry, until 450-500hp. We have proven it, and several other tuners have too (cept for the ones trying to sell you a Perrin fuel rail kit installed with your "custom reflash")

Screw the pully kit. There is no horsepower gain there, unless you've got like a 3lb flywheel. I had many other "bolt on" mods when I put down that number, like a header, open exhaust, intake, intercooler, Good Oil/plugs/coil/wires/fuel.

Run it to fuel cut Josh.

Post by **Legacy777** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:38 pm

Again....thanks for the feedback guys.

I'll be getting back to the car after all this other crap is done. Right now, she's be sleeping in the garage. It's been several weeks since I've driven it. I need to get it inspected as well...damn.

Adam West · Post by **Adam West** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:55 pm

What about his Q on Ceramic coating and porting? Porting adds a buck fifty to the price and the coating is $75...can anyone go into the benis of each on this particular product (i.e. numbers, HP and temp differential?)? Thanks gang!

Oh, and VRG3? You have a pm...

Post by **Legacy777** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:03 pm

Adam,

I've actually purchased the turbo.

Here's the thread with pics
http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=27390

I went with the ceramic coatings, monster ported turbine option, & compressor inlet porting. As I mentioned in the thread, it looks like the outlet was ported too.

I went with those options because I think they were the best bang for the buck, and will help the turbo perform optimally.

I got the turbo installed on friday, check out my other thread in this forum for more info.

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