Good piggy back engine management

[sliverumble]

Im looking for a good piggy back engine management other than a perfect power smt6. Im sure there's got to be several. Does anyone have info on while ones work particularly well with the 22t?

[skid542]

I've been working on getting my MAFT-Pro setup. Thus far it's worked fairly well. I have a couple of small AFR issues to sort out but the system seems capable.

This system only controls fuel though and does not touch timing. It does have a nice boost control function though.

The software and datalogging are very nice as well. Being able to go to a speed density setup cleaned up my intake tract as well and made plumbing a little easier.

An option that is worth looking into.

[SLODRIVE]

I've been running an AEM F/IC for quite a while now in my Legacy and I like it a lot. It gives full control over injectors, MAF, MAP, some extra inputs/outputs, and lets you retard timing. I'm running an EJ20H swap, but using the EJ22T harness and ECU. Works great, passed emissions no problem, bla bla bla. I've got info on it in my Build Journal.

[sliverumble]

I've been running an AEM F/IC for quite a while now in my Legacy and I like it a lot. It gives full control over injectors, MAF, MAP, some extra inputs/outputs, and lets you retard timing. I'm running an EJ20H swap, but using the EJ22T harness and ECU. Works great, passed emissions no problem, bla bla bla. I've got info on it in my Build Journal.

Is there a reason why you used the 20h motor and didnt just swap the heads over on to your 22t? Ive heard the bottom ends on the 20h's arent very good thats the only reason why i ask. How much boost are you running?

[SLODRIVE]

I used the 20H motor because it was $1000 shipped along with the 4.111 5-speed I'm currently running. The EJ22T motor was toast, someday I'll build a nice bottom end out of it. The thing is, the 20H runs GREAT as is, uses no oil between changes, and shows 80+ psi hot on the oil pressure gauge...with Mobil 1 5w-30.

Just wondering, where did you hear the EJ20H has a weak bottom end? It's not really any different then an EJ20G besides the turbo setup...I've run 17+ pounds of boost (I normally run 15-16 psi daily) with a TD04, and seen 6500+ rpms.

[sliverumble]

huh thats interesting, i honestly dont remember who specifically i heard that from. I think it might have been on a forum in nasioc or something, im not 100% sure on that though. Ive had a tuned 20g before and it was very quick. I would have no problem with converting the twin turbo set up to single, i just was under the impression the 20h's werent very good. Are the 20h's and 20g's a direct swap into a 92 ss? My 20g was swapped into a 2000 RS in a shop w/stand alone, I didnt personally do the swap

[tturnpaw]

I'll be using a greddy emanage ultimate here shortly. For the money, it's basically a stand alone. I might consider a stinger stand alone after I see how this works out.

[douglas vincent]

I have only managed

430 whp/torque........

out of the PP6

Therefore.... it must suck.

While my motors blow up, it has NOTHING to do with the PP6. I also pretty much have the fastest old Legacies in the US.

The PP6 works.

[tturnpaw]

Doug, don't take offense by me, but I like to choose the different route. Hence why pp6 and revtronix were not on my radar. To me a stand alone is pretty much the same as another. It's all in the software and features. But you won't see me running a megasquirt setup.

[Legacy777]

In terms of stand alone.....Link is the best bang for your buck. The new tuning software and features are awesome.

[SiCkSTi04]

What version of Link would be the best for our legacy's Josh?

[ballitch]

<---- wants to know as well. I have been giving serious thought to the pp6 or the emanage ultimate.


~Josh~

[Legacy777]

I'd probably suggest the Storm. The main thing the storm doesn't offer is closed loop knock control as is. You can use Link's knock block and tie it into the Storm for closed loop knock control. The Xtreme has closed loop knock control built in, as well as additional I/O.

A lot depends on what you're looking to do with the car. Is it a daily driver, drag car, rally, etc.

With my Link (the G3 LinkPlus) I have not really lost any of the stock ECU functionality like idle, boost control, warm up, AC cut, etc. You need to be aware that setting up a stand alone, even just wiring and installing the additional components is not just something you do on a saturday afternoon. But if you've got the money and time to invest in a stand alone they can give you some pretty nice results.

[SiCkSTi04]

daily driver here with future upgrades liked revtronix stage 2 recommended. I'm sure Storm would be more then enough for my future needs.

[cj91legss]

I ordered the EManage Ultimate, haven't gotten around to putting it in yet. but it looks fairly badass.

[sliverumble]

i had a g4 storm on my ej20g swapped 2.5rs. it worked very well and was very quick

[MikeyMeyagi]

just an fyi, the software interface for the greddy units suck. ive tuned a few, and hope i never have to again.

[cj91legss]

ive got a friend that will tune it for me for 40 bucks. i'm no where even close to "saying" i want to learn how to tune. I'm afraid i would really damage something.