North Id, Eastern WA Snow Rally-X!!!!

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North Id, Eastern WA Snow Rally-X!!!!

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Ladies and Gentleman,

It is that time of year again. The Auto-X guys are putting away their sticky tires and slammed cars and retiring to the garage for another winter of project building. Meanwhile, us rally/snow oriented drivers are getting jazzed about the prospect of speeding around the track in the snow and delicately dancing with frozen cones :).

Autosports Northwest, http://www.autosportsnorthwest.org , is again holding our snow Rally-X with the first race scheduled for Dec. 11/12. For those are not familair with ASNW, we are a strong club that has been around for 20+ years. The strongest portion of the club is our Auto-X racing during the summer, with several memembers competing at Nationals. During the winter we pull out the cones, lengthen the slaloms and elements, put the snow tires on the cars, and rally.

We race on an old runway and have a minimum of 1,400' x 150' of track to work with and we typically have a dog leg taxi/runway we use for beautiful high 2nd gear sweepers. We only have four classes - 2WD, 4WD and Novice/Amature seperation in both 2WD and 4WD.

Our turnouts are typically low, sub 30 drivers, which results in lots of runs. A typical run is around 90 seconds. After the timed runs are done, we typically keep racing just for fun if the course/people can support it.

Tech inspection requirements are pretty straight forward and follow SCCA guidelines. Ultimately we have to make sure that the vehicle is in sound racing condition, i.e. wheel bearings/suspension is tight, the battery is secure, no major leaks, and nothing in the cabin that's loose. We do require a DOT certified helmet but have plenty to lend out (no cost) if you don't have your own.

Our rallycrosses will be on the asphalt whether it's dry or covered in rain, ice, and/or snow (the more the better, up to a point). If there's too much snow for a safe, fun event, we'll cancel with as much notice as possible. If there is no snow, studded tires will not be allowed.

Run times will be calculated by dropping your worst run and adding your best times for a total time. After the track conditions deteriorate and we stop gathering scores, we usually keep running fun runs for a while.

Racing fees are $25 for club members and $30 for non-members, per day. We'll race on Sat and Sun. There is a $5 discount if you pre-register and pre-pay for both days.

If you come out to race, you will be expected to help work the course when it's not your run group (we only have two run groups). We do our best to make the course open enough that shagging cones is kept to a minimum and often you can work the course from the warmth of your car parked off-track. However, this is a winter sport and you should dress appropriately.

The people are very friendly and our competition, while fierce at times, is very much in good nature and everyone's there to have fun. This is a great opportunity to bring out your daily driver or a winter beater and play. You will have the ability to throw the car around in a safe environment and at speeds/conditions that you simply cannot find on the streets.

We need a minimum of 15 drivers to pre-pay for each event in order for this to work. If we don't have enough paid entries before the event, we'll have to cancel that weekend. Aside from lack of participation, the only reason for event cancellation I foresee is too much snow/ice for a safe, fun event (not everybody's in a $200 car). If an event is cancelled, refunds will be issued promptly to all who pre-paid. The refund can be applied towards the next event through the ORM Bank, or you can request a check. If you just show up to an event without having pre-registered and pre-paid, we won't turn you away, but please just pre-register if you think you'll come. It's no problem to unregister if your plans change.

Pre-registration through the AXWare ORM is requested and strongly encouraged. It really helps the event start smoothly and you won't make someone type all of your information into a computer with frozen fingers. You'll need an account and a rally car entry in your ORM garage, and pre-payment will be mandatory to keep track of how many people are seriously planning on showing up. Here's how to do it - http://www.autosportsnorthwest.org/foru ... php?t=2272 . There is help available if you have any troubles getting registered but the system is fairly straight forward.

For anyone traveling, there are hotels in the area we can point you towards. Or, for the more hearty individuals, camping is allowed at the track.

This is an exciting event and all skill levels, car performance levels, and ages are welcome. Please spread the word to your friends. I would like to emphasize though, if we don't have 15 people pre-paid by the Wed. before race weekend - we will have to cancel the event. Therefore it is very important you pre-pay if -payou're interested. We do accept on-site payments, but only the Axware pre-payments are considered when making the decision to hold the race or cancel.

If an event is cancelled and you already paid, you will be promptly refunded or you can apply the money to the next event. Our club takes pride in handling your money with respect so you do not need to worry about losing your money if an event gets cancelled.

I am the VP of the Rally-X portion of the club so if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask. We want you out there and having fun!

Finally, this is what it's all about -

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Lee

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Re: North Id, Eastern WA Snow Rally-X!!!!

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Whyy????? Why can't it be in January?!?

Are there gonna be more? I've been waiting for this...I'll drive up from Pullman, not driving from Renton though, which is where I'll be on the 11th/12th
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We will hold an event weekend per month as long as the weather permits and there is enough participation. We do not have acess to a large snow plow so a huge snow can cause a cancellation.

That said, we do have January and February currently scheduled :).

Jan 15, 16

Feb 19, 20
Lee

93' SS, 5mt swapped, 182k, not stock...
96' N/A OBW 5sp, 212k, Couple mods... RIP
99' N/A OBW, 4eat, mostly stock.
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Very nice, I will hit up one or both of those
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Omg this is SOOO Cool!!! I've been wanting to do this for years!! Too bad its like 300mi away from my house. I still might do this...
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Ok I'm IN!!! Can't wait. Got a question. Is the price per driver or per car? Say if i brought some friends, and they wanted a go in my car...
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Are you involved in the organization and/or running of this, Lee?
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Sorry for the late reply to the questions guys.

Florin - The price is $25 per day if you're a club member and $30 per day if you are not. If you pre-register and pre-pay for both days then you get $5 off for the weekend. If your friends want to drive your car that's just fine. We call that co-driving and when they register they just need to note it so that we can make sure we adjust the run groups properly. But it is common thing for people to do.

Typically in the summer, the guy co-driving the other guy's car will pay his race entry fees to cover wear/tear/tires. Not always, just something to think about, depending on tight you are with your friends ;).

Beatersubi - I have been a member of ASNW for three years now. This last summer I wasn't able to Auto-X though so I've been active for two Auto-X seasons and one Rally-X season. In terms of Rally-X, I am directly involved and am 'acting' VP. I'm charge of course design/setup and am working with two other guys on all the organization and additional items to make an event happen.

Please let me know if there are any more questions.

One thing I cannot emphasize enough - if you are serious about participating, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE pre-register and pay. If you cannot come, if the event gets cancelled, whatever - if you paid and cannot show up to race you will recieve a FULL refund without issues. But if we cannot get enough people pre-registerd and paid before the event, it will get cancelled.

Thank you.
Lee

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96' N/A OBW 5sp, 212k, Couple mods... RIP
99' N/A OBW, 4eat, mostly stock.
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Lee,
Will you guys bring the race closer to the west for any of the other weekends? Either way, i will probably register for the 11th on wed or thurs next week.
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I'm gonna have to bump this thread. lol. I just registered for the 11th. C'mon lets get some 1st gens out there...
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Florin,

Ah geeze! I completely forgot to answer you question. I'm sorry man.

We won't be moving the race. Finding venues is exceptionally difficult and ASNW needs to keep it somewhat local in order to be able to do all the legwork required to put on a race. It's a drive for some I know, but, at least it's available.

And thanks for registering! Did you go ahead and pay as well? Hopefully you did, we need it to officially count you :).

I'm headed out to the track tomorrow morning to check on conditions. I'd love to get some first gens out there. Unfortunately mine won't be so we need some representation (I only have summer tires for my car).
Lee

93' SS, 5mt swapped, 182k, not stock...
96' N/A OBW 5sp, 212k, Couple mods... RIP
99' N/A OBW, 4eat, mostly stock.
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Yeah i paid. I have some friends coming as well, but they will register when they get there. I too only have summer tires. I have 15" stud wheels but don't think i'll be able to use them once i bolt up my r180. I'm trying to find a used set of blizzaks for my 17" track wheels, but am running out of time...
I also asked more questions on Nasioc if you could answer there too.
Do you know of any cheap motels/hotels around there?

I hope there is snow when we get there, and hope i get lots of track time. I'm driving from Reno to Seattle on Thursday till Friday morning, than bolting up my r180, than leaving for Spocompton a little later that day... I'm gonna be pooped.
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Awesome! It'd be great if your friends could at least register online prior to the event even if they can't pay. But I also understand sometimes that just doesn't work and I don't want to beat you up over it more than I already have.

Great that you're coming up though!

I've asked the question about cheap hotels on the ASNW forum. I know several of the Auto-X guys travel and many of the members live in the Spokane area and can give some decent input. I'll let you know what I find out or you can watch the thread on the ASNW forum - it's in the general forum.

I saw your questions on Nasioc and have answered them there as well.

And yeah, it sounds like you're doing a lot of driving but it will be worth it. Should be plenty of runs to be had :).
Lee

93' SS, 5mt swapped, 182k, not stock...
96' N/A OBW 5sp, 212k, Couple mods... RIP
99' N/A OBW, 4eat, mostly stock.
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skid542 wrote:We will hold an event weekend per month as long as the weather permits and there is enough participation. We do not have acess to a large snow plow so a huge snow can cause a cancellation.

That said, we do have January and February currently scheduled :).

Jan 15, 16

Feb 19, 20
Looking forward to this event! I can't wait for January to come! :lol:
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I apologize for being the bearer of bad news but the Jan. event has been cancelled.

Weather up here has been pretty relentless in that it's either been cold, or snowing with only a few warm days mixed in. This has caused the burms from the Dec. event to freeze solid. The rest of the track has many fairly deep layers of hard snow and ice. All of this adds up to a course that will easily damage cars. Because of this we have decided to cancel the Jan. event.

However, this does not mean the Feb. event is immediately cancelled. If we get some decent weather to clear the track or make it manageable to move the snow out,then we will hold a Feb. event. There is still a lot of desire to get back out there and play, we just need the weather to cooperate a little bit.

There has also been some of discussion among the officers about some lessons learned from our last event. We appreciate all the comments and suggestions we've received. ASNW tries to pride itself on the smoothness of the race support/legistics activities and Rally-X is still growing a little. Therefore we still appreciate any coments and look forward to Feb.


As always, please let me know if there's any questions I can answer and again I apologize to those that had already made plans for the race weekend.
Lee

93' SS, 5mt swapped, 182k, not stock...
96' N/A OBW 5sp, 212k, Couple mods... RIP
99' N/A OBW, 4eat, mostly stock.
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Lee,
I was looking to run this in January...in the Legacy.

Does ASNW have a 'plow issue'? I may be able to come up w/something....have to check.

We're supposed to get dumped on this week but then warm up...if someone could clear it during the warm weather, would that make it avl in February?

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Todd,

Good to hear from you! Also glad that you're still in the Legacy but that comes with mixed emotions as I know you wanted the Forester project to work out. I am assuming it didn't if you kept the Legacy, so to that, sorry to hear.

As far as ASNW, it is a plow issue. We have a couple people who have offered pick up trucks with a blade. However, the real problem is that we have a 100' x 2000' area that needs plowed. That's a big area and is enough snow to easily damage a pickup truck setup once you get to pushing a lot of snow. There has been some discussion that next year we may have some people/groups that can keep the track clear from the start and we can actually regulated the snow depth rather than hoping for mother nature to cooperate.

We will still run in Feb. if we can but time and resources are a bit limited. We'll see. I spent four days working to get the Jan. event going and setup, all to get sick the day before so I missed the whole race weekend. So, if we can race in Feb., I'll be making sure we can.

The second problem with the plowing comes in that the property is owned by the airport and we are working through a few issues there. This limits us on what equipment we can get on the track through the access road. But, if you have a skidder available, we may be able to work something out...

The final issue is cost. Deseil isn't cheap and currently Rally-X is not a big money making event so we are trying to balance that. Jan. we had a good turnout and need to have that level of turnout, repeatably, to make the club comfortable to spend the money for large scale snow clearing.


All that said, we haven't given up on Rally-X. We'll make it happen if we can and next year should be a lot better.


Thanks.
Lee

93' SS, 5mt swapped, 182k, not stock...
96' N/A OBW 5sp, 212k, Couple mods... RIP
99' N/A OBW, 4eat, mostly stock.
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Had i known about this earlier i would have definitely gone! Theres always next year
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