My Potential Build List

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Post by smh0101 »

Okay... So... Since I have an extra ej22t... I was think about doing a build on it.

Here is the shortblock list:

22t Block = Already have it
2.5L Crankshaft (22t+2.5l crank = 2.35L Engine) = Not sure yet
Wiseco Forged Pistons (w/ 8.5:1 Compression) = $600 ish
Eagle Rods = $400


Now... On the heads... I'm still trying to decide... Either have an oil line machined in on some SOHC 2.5L heads... Or just go with DOHC ej20g heads.
Port and Polished... = Not sure yet

STi Yellow-Top Injectors (550cc) = $200?
90-94 NA Fuel Rails = Junkyard... $10?
255lph HP Walbro Fuel Pump = $100
TurboXS MBC = $50
Check Valve (FCD) = $10


To start with, a Perfect Power = From a friend like $100
Eventually either a Link or Autronic Standalone... I'm still considering this though.

Either a FXT TMIC or an AWIC... Not sure, depends what I find.
Now, on a Turbo... Probably a VF-12 OR td05-16g... Both fairly similar in size... And I have heard good things about the vf-12 from kleinkid. About 18-20psi boost... = $300 (for turbo) & $100 (for IC)

If I go with the FXT TMIC I'm going to rig up a secondary windsheild washer tank... That will hold water and a switch inside for an IC spray. I'll use a high-pressure jet to spray it over the ic...

Thats the engine portion...

Suspension will probably be something like:

Tokico Struts w/ Ground Control Coilover Kit
F/R STBs
Whiteline sway bars
Whiteline end links

Now, the transmission...

I'm not sure... I'm probably looking at a decent amount of power, so I want to do it right on the tranny without spending a fortune (fortune = 6mt) and I want it Daily Driver compatible (not dog-box, and I know that it wont be putting out that much power to need it),

How would a 5mt be with an RA gear set?

And definitely a rear lsd... Probably an lsd center diff to.



What do yall think? I'm kinda leaning toward the ej20g heads... But the tranny...

And this will be over the course of a year with the build...

How much power does this sound like it could make?
Last edited by smh0101 on Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
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94 Legacy Ti Wagon (5mt ej22e)
91 rhd Legacy GT Wagon (factory 5mt, ej20g)
93 rhd Legacy GT type S2 Sedan (4eat, ej20g)
91 rhd Legacy Ti Type S 1.8
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Post by smh0101 »

Any suggestions? Or things I left out?
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94 Legacy Turbo (550 Robtune/ej20h v2 Sti RA drivetrain)
94 Legacy Ti Wagon (5mt ej22e)
91 rhd Legacy GT Wagon (factory 5mt, ej20g)
93 rhd Legacy GT type S2 Sedan (4eat, ej20g)
91 rhd Legacy Ti Type S 1.8
03 Lincoln LS V8 Sport
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Post by 555BCTurbo »

Are you made of money?!?
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Post by smh0101 »

So what am I looking at? 2500-3000 ish? Over the course of a year and a half?

All will be done in steps... First Suspension, Then IC and MBC and FCD, then Fuel Upgrades, then Turbo, then EM,

LASTLY the Shortblock and Heads... Well, kinda, I'm gonna start collecting parts now. And see where I'm at.
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94 Legacy Ti Wagon (5mt ej22e)
91 rhd Legacy GT Wagon (factory 5mt, ej20g)
93 rhd Legacy GT type S2 Sedan (4eat, ej20g)
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Post by 555BCTurbo »

smh0101 wrote:So what am I looking at? 2500-3000 ish? Over the course of a year and a half?

All will be done in steps... First Suspension, Then IC and MBC and FCD, then Fuel Upgrades, then Turbo, then EM,

LASTLY the Shortblock and Heads... Well, kinda, I'm gonna start collecting parts now. And see where I'm at.

Well, considering an Autronic is $2500 alone...probably a bit more


RA gearsets are like $1200 too...


And then you have to factor in labor to all of that.
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1994 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 CTD, #11 plate, 30 psi, Scotty II intake, 4" exhaust
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555BCTurbo wrote:
smh0101 wrote:So what am I looking at? 2500-3000 ish? Over the course of a year and a half?

All will be done in steps... First Suspension, Then IC and MBC and FCD, then Fuel Upgrades, then Turbo, then EM,

LASTLY the Shortblock and Heads... Well, kinda, I'm gonna start collecting parts now. And see where I'm at.

Well, considering an Autronic is $2500 alone...probably a bit more


RA gearsets are like $1200 too...


And then you have to factor in labor to all of that.
The major EM upgrade would come way later...
And I'm not set on a tranny yet...

Yeah, factor labor... If I need it... By the time the engine build comes around, I hope to have a few auto tech classes down. Hopefully...

But how does the list sound? like a sound build or are there major holes?
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94 Legacy Ti Wagon (5mt ej22e)
91 rhd Legacy GT Wagon (factory 5mt, ej20g)
93 rhd Legacy GT type S2 Sedan (4eat, ej20g)
91 rhd Legacy Ti Type S 1.8
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Post by 555BCTurbo »

Fairly sound...but I think you should factor in about another $1000 for little stuff that crops up...


And building an engine like that is not for the faint of heart...or inexperienced.


And you might want to do something about brakes first...
Nick

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Post by smh0101 »

555BCTurbo wrote:Fairly sound...but I think you should factor in about another $1000 for little stuff that crops up...


And building an engine like that is not for the faint of heart...or inexperienced.


And you might want to do something about brakes first...
DOH!! Duh... So yeah, that is gonna be the same time as suspension.
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94 Legacy Ti Wagon (5mt ej22e)
91 rhd Legacy GT Wagon (factory 5mt, ej20g)
93 rhd Legacy GT type S2 Sedan (4eat, ej20g)
91 rhd Legacy Ti Type S 1.8
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Post by 555BCTurbo »

smh0101 wrote:
DOH!! Duh... So yeah, that is gonna be the same time as suspension.
Which should be long before you do any engine stuff...
Nick

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Post by smh0101 »

And it will be.
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94 Legacy Ti Wagon (5mt ej22e)
91 rhd Legacy GT Wagon (factory 5mt, ej20g)
93 rhd Legacy GT type S2 Sedan (4eat, ej20g)
91 rhd Legacy Ti Type S 1.8
03 Lincoln LS V8 Sport
08 300 SRT8
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Post by Legacy777 »

I'd say plan for at least $5000. There's always stuff that comes up.....usually it's a bit more then expected.
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Post by Arctic Assassian »

While the list is fairly complete, good luck getting all that shit together while paying bills and working. I've been trying to do that same list for about 2 years now. good luck.
Kickin' it old-school.
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Post by smh0101 »

Well, i may be getting a phase 1 2.5 block by the end of this week, oe early next... heres hopin!
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94 Legacy Ti Wagon (5mt ej22e)
91 rhd Legacy GT Wagon (factory 5mt, ej20g)
93 rhd Legacy GT type S2 Sedan (4eat, ej20g)
91 rhd Legacy Ti Type S 1.8
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Post by BXSS »

Would a V4 STi 4.444 Tranny & Suretrack Rear LSD/axle set-up work for you?
If it would give me a PM as I have this available.
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Post by Canadian Turbo »

I'm a noob, but my build is underway.
I had put together a list like yours of what my build would cost, now that's it's almost done I can give you a little idea of what my build was like and what it cost.

I think the bigest thing that you can easily overlook is that when you tear down an engine you don't put it back together with old seals and whatnot, so here's the detailed list of the engine basics that I used in my build, which BTW is all original replacement. Also I shoped around for a long time for these parts and I don't think you'll find cheaper.


PARTS
Vehicle:1994, SUBARU, LEGACY SPORT SEDAN, H4-2212cc 2.2L F/I T

1 Head Gskt Set
sohc Eng ; Head Bolts Not Incl ; Permadry® Molded Rubber Valve Cover;gskts Inclpremium Valve Stem Seals Incl; Years:1991-1994; $233.85 $233.85

1 Oil Pump Gasket
$5.28 $5.28

1 Main Bearings
$45.80 $45.80

1 Oil Pump
$115.00 $115.00

1 Set Engine Piston Rings
$64.71 $64.71

1 Thermostats
$5.51 $5.51

1 Water Pump Airtex
$59.98 $59.98

1 Spark Plug Wires, Set NGK
$36.58 $36.58

4 Spark Plug NGK
$1.86 $7.44

1 Timing Belt
$20.95 $20.95

1 Timing Idler (replace this, they explode!!!)
$34.81 $34.81

1 Connecting Rod Bearings
$27.25 $27.25

1 Oxygen Sensor
$57.07 $57.07

1 Crankshaft Seal front
$6.13 $6.13

1 Crankshaft Seal rear
$9.52 $9.52

1 Timing Cover Seal
$2.63 $2.63

Subtotal: $738.74
Shipping - UPS Canada Standard: $58.60
Total Weight (48.5lbs. ):
Handling: $3.95
CA residents pay 8.25 %: $0.00
Order Total: $801.29

I'll try to be breif, the rest of the build

Spare ej22t and tranny 440$
WRX seats 200$
04 STI suspension 400$
3" turbo back exhaust 500$
new shifter and bushings 125$
WRX brakes (front) 200$
Brake instal and bleed 150$
Suspension and exhaust instal 300$
Clutch (don't forget this if you want to be able to have fun once you're done) 260$
LW flywheel 150$
Boost and airfuel gauges 150$
DIY port and polish FREE!!!! DO IT!
Injectors cleaned 100$


That's 3775$ !!!! I'm far from done, and it's still less than what you listed I think.

Really long post to say IMHO it WILL cost you more than that!! I'd say double what you predicted.
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Post by Legacy777 »

Just looked, I spent around $7,500 on my engine swap. About $2,200 of it was just replacement parts from subaru.
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Post by Ej22TIM »

ok heres a list of what MY budget build looks like....


Wisecos with rings ect- 500 shipped

Acl Race bearings rod and main-80 shipped

0.20 Overbore and sonic block cleaning-175 through a friend

Ej20g Heads, intake mani, injectors and throttlebody-200

still need- clutch, Timing belt, water pump, t stat, plugs and wires, and HEADERS!!!!!

and also, the reason I am doing all this is because my trans blew lol I just picked one up at a Upull junkyard for 90.00
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Megan Racing Bellmouth 13psi
WRX Intercooler and Hoodscoop
JDM ej20G DOHC head swap, wiseco pistons and td04 in the making.
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