Hehe, i understand what your saying totally!
It should not be left a FWD it will blow the box in the first day!
As for us Aussies having it easy.. i don't think so, our highway's
are also 100km/h.(60mph) It get's really boring, but i'm from
Brisbane and our 4 lane (each way) highway to the Gold-Coast
transforms into one of the best illegal street racing highways in
Australia every thursday, friday and saturday, so we get our fun
My car is still too slow though, and for this reason, i'm going to
make something a little different in Australia. Basically it will be
the same as the EJ22-T in the US, without the oil squirters, but with
a front mount intercooler and a turbo off a mitsubishi canter
truck!
(basically a highway racing car with lots of top end)
However, as you were saying that guy spent $2400 and got a fast
honda..... well as a parts donor for my turbo conversion i'm buying a
perfect EJ20-T ready to start. It will cost $250 $A (about $125
american!
)
My conversion should be about 1200$Aus all up including an
aftermarket ECU
so that's a little more cost effective i think!
Just wish i could afford it now!
I'll keep all of you filled in on the progress!
Sorry about the essay!!
George, Australia.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Sam & Beth Barrett" <LEVATHIAN@s...>
wrote:
> George, et.al.
>
> I see your point exactly. And one day, I hope to go one of those
two routes
> myself. And my intent was not to get into a "which engine is
better" debate
> (which would be entertaining in it's own right). Although I have to
say the
> cars you Aussies have only serve to piss off the power starved
Americans
> like myself who have to keep it under 60mph on 4 and 6 lane
highways. :oP
>
> With that said, getting back to the point of my response, it occurs
to me
> that taking a vehicle that was designed with 4wd in mind and
building a
> beefed up 2wd version is a little bit ridiculous. The chasis is
heavier,
> parts are more expensive, and at the end of the day - you still
have a FWD
> car! Now there are some AMAZING FWD cars out there...
>
> But let's get real.
>
> If you want performance front wheel drive THAT bad - why would you
do it
> with a Subaru? There's absolutely no reason I can think of. Not
when there
> are sooo many options availible on the Honda/Acura line with or
without
> turbo. Lighter chasis, in-line engine, a zillion vendors, junk
yards all
> over the place, part availibility, maintainence/repair guru's on
every
> street corner, V-Tech, list goes on forever... But if you want AWD -
you
> wouldn't want to do it with a Honda. That's why I'm a Subaru owner
baby!
>
> This guy seems really excited to do a helluva lot of work on a
Subaru to get
> a FWD car that will pull some nice numbers. Bang for buck - I'm
telling him
> to go over to the otherside of the fence where his dollar will
stretch a
> little further and he'll have an easier time achieving his desires.
That's
> all.
>
> I got a buddy up here who spent >$200 between a cold air intake,
integra
> headers he got from a U-Pull, and a few other doo-dads and his car
showed
> marked improvement. Now he's dropping $2.2K on a fully built out
Integra
> block and head. He'll still be N/A, he'll be out only $2400, and
he'll have
> one helluva fast little civic. We can't do that with our cars and
achieve
> the same performance increase with only a $2400 investment. We can
get a new
> block for that price - sure as hell can't get it blueprinted,
balanced,
> ported, polished and flowed... Don'cha think? I thought that would
be better
> advise for the guy. That's all. Am I wrong?
>
> -Sambo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: georgerbyrne [mailto:georgerbyrne@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 71 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: EJ22 to EJ22T Engine Swap
>
>
> Sambo, I understand that you guys over there havn't had the WRX and
> it's EJ20-T for long, but there is alot more to it than that.
>
> The majority of the high powered WRX's and Liberty's (legacy's)in
> Australia are actually not even the 2litre EJ20-T. The majority are
> based on the EJ22 NA motor, with 97/98 model quad cam heads. These
> can be stroked out to huge capacity's and are the real performers on
> the street in Australia. We have WRX's cruising around with up to
2.8
> litres!!
>
> It is common to hear amoung my friends that they're not even going
to
> bother racing a car becuase it only has the 2 litre!
> If done correctly the EJ22 has alot more potential and is just as
> easy to attain bang for buck mods as the EJ20-T. This also does not
> mean huge dollars, but can be done for quite a cheap amount.
>
> I'm not saying the EJ20-T is not as good, but if your building a
> monster motor, the EJ22-T would be alot better, with more potential!
>
> It is closed deck, you can simply bolt on quad cam heads off an
EJ20-
> T and then you basically have a stroked EJ20-T! Then, if "properly
> built" it would have a much greater potential than the EJ20-T alot
of
> which are not even closed deck.
> Just my opinion, not trying to start a fight!
> Thanks, George, Australia.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Sam & Beth Barrett" <LEVATHIAN@s...>
> wrote:
> > Here's the answers:
> >
> > 1.Buy a Honda
> > 2.Buy a Honda
> > 3.Buy a Honda
> > 4.Buy a Honda
> > 5.Buy a Honda
> >
> > Here's why:
> >
> > Intercoolers and clutch configurations are the last thing you are
> going to
> > worry about when it comes to doing the job. IMHO you ought to go
> for the
> > 2.0L if you want to build a monster engine. Anyone considering
> swapping an
> > engine and a tranny to the 2.2L just for the sake of the extra 2
> tenths of a
> > L is ignoring the additional power that can be evoked from a
> properly built
> > 2 litre. Although the 2.2 is a mighty respectable engine and each
> has it's
> > benefits... I'm babling.
> >
> > In either case, I suggest you buy a Honda. If you are going to
> spend all
> > that money on dumping in a monster intercooled engine into a front
> wheel
> > drive Subaru just to be different, in all actuality I think that's
> rather
> > obscure. Our chasis are heavier than the Hondas, our mod-ability
is
> much
> > more dufficult than the Hondas, list goes on. If you want a front
> wheel
> > drive power house - by all means go get a Honda. Your money will
be
> better
> > spent there by a long shot.
> >
> > I'm not telling you any of this to be a jack-ass either. I whole
> heartedly
> > welcome you to our community of Legacy love. But I'm going to tell
> you what
> > I honestly think too. A friend is someone who will lie to you with
> their
> > smiles and their pleasantrys so as not to be rude. A true friend
> will tell
> > you what they think with frankness, laugh with you, and work with
> you.
> >
> > 01=my two bits,
> >
> > -Sambo
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: frmrgz2rchz [mailto:FrmRgz2Rchs@a...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 4:31 PM
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] EJ22 to EJ22T Engine Swap
> >
> >
> > Hi all. I'm a rather new member here, and I haven't made many
> > posts. I figured I should introduce myself, and my current
> > project. My name is Andy, and I am from Columbus, OH. I have a
> > 2WD, N/A '92 Legacy automatic. I plan on getting the EJ22T put in
> > within the next month, along with a manual swap. I know it seems
> > like a lot of work, and you may be thinking to just buy one with
> > turbo, or at least get a suby with AWD, but I figured this would
be
> > different, and I bought this car without any intentions of fixing
it
> > up, so I am stuck with what I have. I know that the ECU, MAF
> > sensor, engine wire harness, and fuel pump are needed for the
swap.
> > Not really sure if that is it though. I plan on intercooling the
> > car at the same time as the swap. I have a Starion/Conquest fmic,
> > and a WRX top-mount. I am going to try to get the front mount to
> > work, but if it is too much trouble, I will go with the top-mount.
> > A new hood will have to be purchased if I do choose to use the
top-
> > mount. Well, this is my situation, and of course, I have some
> > questions.
> >
> > 1. Which of the intercoolers that I have would yield a greater
> > output?
> >
> > 2. Do I need to get the turbo clutch kit, even though it's a 2WD
> > tranny or are they interchangable at all?
> >
> > 3. I don't think I can use my factory intake, so what
complications
> > are there in a custom intake(ECU, sensors, etc.)?
> >
> > 4. Can the WRX downpipe be fitted to our turbos?
> >
> > 5. How much HP can the 2WD tranny sustain?
> >
> > 6. Lastly, are there any other concerns I should have?
> >
> > Well, there you have it. I don't expect you to know all the
> > answers, just give me what input you can. All is appreciated.
> > Just wondering, anybody have 2WD turbo, or know of anyone? I like
> > being different, and I think it would be cool to be one of the
only
> > ones to have this. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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