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Well yesterday i got back from A.B.E.. the WHOLE big hold up
was i was tring to contact them using an 3yr old phone number.
eep!

So i drove down to the shop, and there were the guys of A.B.E.
make parts for a Porshe racing car.. *drool*

So i talked with them for about an hour and we compared math.. i
was way wrong and they corrected my math. So as of now let me
tell you the Final egzact #'s

As of (8/13/02)

For the Turbo Hood with Scoop and vents:

$336.00 New 91 Legacy Hood
$67.00 Ver. 4, 5 & 6 Bonnet Scoop
$112.00 22b bonnet vent replica
Hood is 16 SqFt with vent and scoop
$480.00 For the fiberglass mold
$144.00 for Positive (i.e part)
$144.00 for Positive (i.e part)
$144.00 for Positive (i.e part)
$144.00 for Positive (i.e part)
$144.00 for Positive (i.e part)
Total Cost for 5 people is : $1715.00
Individual cost: $343.00
6 people: $1859.00/ $309.83
7 people $2003.00/ $286.14
8 people $2147.00/$268.37

As of now we had 8 people as of this announcement who said they
were GO for the hoods. so we are awaiting they're approval of the
final numbers. If you see a GO-GO that meant they HAVE in fact
approved the new numbers and are finalizing payment options/info.

They are:
Sam & Beth Barrett" GO
Shariff Miftahittin" GO
David Carter GO-GO
Chris Allsman GO-GO
Peter Hadfield GO-GO (he is in FOR 2 HOODS)
B S" GO
"Larry Coffey" GO
Todd Munson GO
John Dolinga ............interested/ pending

Which is amazing,, The price is Capped at 8 people unless it goes
down because of drop-outs. You are more than willing to come in
but the price will not go lower.. we are only 2 weeks from the
Deadline which is the 30th of august and to make all those who are
GO cancel checks and resend a check everytime we get another
person would be mean. just a note money that isn't used will be
sent back.

For the RS bumper made to fit the 90-91 years:

The RS Bumper as of (8/13/02)

$214.00 New 2001 RS Bumper Skin
The bumper will be 17 SqFt with modification to fit wheel well and
mounting of 90-91 Legacy.
$510.00 Mold
$153.00 Positive (i.e part)
$153.00 Positive (i.e part)
$153.00 Positive (i.e part)
$153.00 Positive (i.e part)
$153.00 Positive (i.e part)
Total Cost for 5 people: $1489.00
Individual Cost:$297.80
For 6 people:$1642.00/$273.67
For 7 people $1795.00/$256.43

We have 4-6 people.. i haven't heard back from some people or i've
misplace they're e-mail saying they were Go.. but here are those
interested and or GO.

Shariff Miftahittin GO-GO
David Carter GO-GO
Chris Allsman GO-GO
shemeryahu" interested....pending
Dan GO
"Larry Coffey"GO
John Dolinga interested.....pending


Whether you are in for the Hood or Bumper Please let me know the
following.

1. Real Names.. (for some of you i only have abbreviations or
nicks.
even if your name is your e-mail send it again)
2.Shipping address (where do you want this sent to)
3. Contact info ( if i need to contact you how do i, by phone?, what
#)
Whether or Not You are GO or NO-GO with the current prices.

Warrantee: If your part is NOT what you asked for whether it be. a
Hood with scoops and vents or a RS bumper send it back and i
will give you your money back. This applies for damages during
shipping. Also the only promise i gave was that these parts will
install using factory pieces and mounts with little or no
modification. if this is not true contact me and we will arrange a
return. I do not warrantee damages during installation. I will not
accept returns on the basis that you car is the wrong year.. THIS
HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT THESE PARTS ARE FOR 90-
91.. not 92-94.. i do not promise any kind of bolt up fitment with
any other year.

A.B.E Recommends that you have these installed as a qualified
bodyshop as they will be able to fit/sand/trim for installation. He
also again recommends the use of hood pins just for encase.

If you have any questions feel free to ask publicly or in private.. i
wear my life on my collar..


David Carter

P.S There WILL be a fiberglass page.. I'm still working on it.. but
as of now there's nothing to put up.. maybee an FAQ..that way i
don't have to type the same answers over and over.. hehehe

Hi there,

Is it possible to order only a hoodscoop? How much would it be. I'm
also interested in a bumper. Are you making front or back? or both?
When will Be able to see some pics of the bumper? Are rocker panel
flares planned for the future or do you know I could get them? Have a
look at "Dream Legacy", it's the last photo in the photo section to
see what I mean.

Thanks,
Mark

>
> Hi there,
>
> Is it possible to order only a hoodscoop? How much would it be.

It's not possiable on my end to just do a hood scoop. Everything
will be one peice. You can just order a hoodscoop from MRT or
Primitve Raceing and take a dremel to your hood..




I'm
> also interested in a bumper. Are you making front or back?

Just the front, I've never looked at the back..or imagined what would
fit..thanks for the idea..But at this time it's just the front. maybee
next year.


or both?
> When will Be able to see some pics of the bumper? During there
construction, and when there done.. i plan on takeing lots of pics
and putting them on the fiberglass page....

Are rocker panel
> flares planned for the future or do you know I could get them?

I've always wanted flared body panels.. if you go in the fiberglass
foler on the BC-BF page, you'll see some REALLY OLD ART i did
3 yrs ago with consepts of the fiberglass parts i wanted.. i'm a bit
more reasonable now that i know how much parts cost. Front flares
would be easiest to do. but rears would have to include the cutting
and modifying the rear rockers of the car as they are all one
peice.and thats a it much for the normal list member to go thru.

Have a look
> at "Dream Legacy", it's the last photo in the photo section to see what I
> mean.

Wow , Not my dream.. but nice car.

David Carter

Hi David,

You seem to be the one to talk to about body mods. I figure I'll ask
you some more specific questions about the flared rocker panels.
Would the flares have to be custom made? Would They be metal or glass?
Can you purchase them Ie. for Other cars and put them on? Also in the
pic "Dream Legacy" the rear bumper is different from stock Legacy Rear
bumpers. I think the car is a Liberty. Is it stock for them or a
custom mod and how about do you think I should go about modifying my
rear bumper?

Thanks,
Mark

> Hi David,
>
> You seem to be the one to talk to about body mods. I figure I'll ask you
> some more specific questions about the flared rocker panels. Would the
> flares have to be custom made?

I don't want to sound like an ass.. but if they don't already
exsist..which they don't, they WILL have to be custom made..


Would They be metal or glass?

I've looked in to both a LONG time ago about 3 years so things
may have changed i'm not sure. I personally would chose glass.. of
the two it is the cheaper and the easiest to
use/mold/smooth/modify..

Glass: Glass will be lighter. and you can sculpt glass any way imagineable.
You can always add to it easily, It is not as strong as metal. nor will take the abuse metal will.

Metal: metal is STRONG.. and depending on who you are having
the work done by can be sculpted in to most shapes.. mostly very
sharp lines.. if you want bends and curves you have to STAMP
peices and that can be very very costly if you have LOTS of money
laying about for tooling and shape costs go metal it will last forever.



Can you
> purchase them Ie. for Other cars and put them on?

I've thought of that.. the nissan trucks like the exterra and
forerunner have these wheel well cover fendar and rocker flares..
more for looks than flares.. I personally wanted to cut Duelie Flares
off of Ford and Chevy Pickups and just weld over my rear doors and
mount corvette wheels on the rears.. but i haven't seen any GOOD
universial fender flares.



Also in the pic "Dream
> Legacy" the rear bumper is different from stock Legacy Rear bumpers. I
> think the car is a Liberty. Is it stock for them or a custom mod and how
> about do you think I should go about modifying my rear bumper?

I can't get a bigger pic or a different perspective on the back of that
white turbo legacy.. but if someone else can back me up or tell me
differantly , that looks like the bumper every turbo legacy got.. i
would evern say all sedan legacys have....if it's different in some
way i can not tell by the small photo provided.

What i can tell you is that modifying the front bumper is straight
forward. tell your glass or metal worker how far you want to go out..
FIND a tire size you can go to First.. so that you can match it . so
that you don't go to wide for your intended tire width or visa versa
unless you like that LA lowrider roller skate look.

The rear rockers are the hard part. We'll take the dream for
egzample. make note of attached picture. there are two ways you
can do this. the easiest is to go facade.. or fake flares as in pic 1.
you sculpt fender flares in 3 peices useing side skirts to start the
flare adding a peice to the rear door keeping it's functionality, and
adding a peice over the existing body work on thr rocker.. a 4th
epice could be added to round out the flare useing the rear bumper
skin or you could just leave it for that GT class skyline body
styleing.

the second way you can do it by removing the what you need of
the rear rocker panel and adding flares. if you notice ther is next to
no body work between the rear wheel well and the door. So you
can bulge straight out from the door or you can remove access
from the rear door completely. Hell make yours a 2 door....

I hope the picture helps?


David C

Hi David,

Whoops, I think you are thinking I want to build up and flare the
whole rear door and fender area. I just want to mount side skirts
under the rocker panels on the bottom of the car. Primitive racing has
an Impreza RS Body kit with small little glass side skirts that I
guess you glue under the rocker panels between the wheel wells. Does
this sound like the way out? Also I checked out about that rear bumper
and it is a little different from my turbo sedan it has a little lip
on the bottom of it, whereas mine just sort of stops where the lip
should be. Is it better to buy a fiberglass lip for an Impreza RS and
modify it to fit or custom make it?

Thanks, thank very much for your help so far,
Mark