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Would this work (side markers Q)
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:50 am
by IronMonkeyL255
I was looking around for bulbs that may work the way I have my lights set up right now and came across this diagram on Daniel Stern's website.
On here, the turn signal bulb is a dual-filament bulb.
Could this be adapted to our cars to get everything flashing properly?
It looks like it would, but I wanted to check with y'all (Vikash) to see if this would work.
Here is the page I got it from.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:59 am
by magicmike
your missing a ground for the side markers. The two leads on the main turn bulbs are +'s so the way you have that drawn there isn't a ground for the side markers. I have been giving this some though and will draw something up that I have in mind to make this work.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:08 am
by 91White-T
Connect the sidemarker power to the parking light power, and the sidemarker ground to the turn signal ground. This will make the markers go on with the parking lights, and blink with the blinker. Just did this the other day.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:22 am
by IronMonkeyL255
Mike - That isn't my drawing.
That's Daniel Stern's.
Try looking at the site. He explains that it is grounding through the turn signal filament.
91White-T - How do you mean? I am interested, but would like a bit more explaination.
I modified Stern's drawing a bit. This is about what I was thinking.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:40 am
by 91White-T
I think your drawing has two +12V going to the marker bulbs doesn't it?
Replace the red and purple with turn signal grounds and that should work.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:45 pm
by vrg3
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:17 pm
by IronMonkeyL255
There's only one difference between this setup and the non-flashing one: Instead of the sidemarkers being wired across parking lamp feed and ground, they're wired across parking lamp feed and turn signal feed.
The side marker bulb socket is isolated from ground, and one bulb lead goes to the running lamp positive circuit. The other lead is tied into the turn signal positive lead.
When the parking lights are on and the turn signal off, it grounds throught the turn signal filament and illuminates the marker lamp. When the turn signal flashes, it interrupts the ground and the marker will flash. When the running lights are off, the process is reversed, with the ground being through the filaments of the running light circuit, and the marker will flash in sync with the turn signal instead of alternately.
That's what Stern had on his website, since nobody wants to read it there.
Nice link V, but I don't have a '92-'94, so the wiring you talk about there isn't wholly accurate for me.....
91White-T - When you say to connect sidemarker power to parking light power, do you mean connect sidemarker (parking light) power to turn signal power?
I'm just working with the stock equipment, so I don't have the '92-'94 fender parking lights to worry about.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:43 pm
by vrg3
Wait... I'm confused. You're not talking about installing sidemarkers? Are you referring to the corner lights when you say "sidemarkers?" And you want the corner lights to flash?
If you are, you should be able to just cut the black wire on the corner light and instead connect it to the black-with-green-stripe (driver side) or white-with-red-stripe (passenger side) wire of the turn signal. The taillight filaments should provide sufficient grounds when the parking lights are off. Put in a pair of amber bulbs and you're done.
Sorry about the confusion.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:49 pm
by 91White-T
Yeah I thought you were trying to add sidemarkers(fender) to a 91.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:51 pm
by IronMonkeyL255
Yes.
I just want the sidemarkers/parking lights/corner lamps/whatever-you-want-to-call-them to act as parking lights AND blink with the turn signals.
Are those the positive leads for the turn signals?
I should have been a bit clearer before.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:00 pm
by vrg3
The black wires going to the corner lights are the ground leads.
The black-with-green-stripe wire is the positive lead for the left turn signal.
The white-with-red-stripe wire is the positive lead for the right turn signal.
So cutting the black wire and connecting it to the turn signal wire will accomplish the one change that Daniel was describing.
But be sure to get amber bulbs.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:16 pm
by 91White-T
They don't make amber 67 bulbs.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:57 pm
by IronMonkeyL255
The ones in my corner lamps are 88.
I haven't seen amber 88s either.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:10 am
by vrg3
You can find 67NA bulbs, which are natural amber versions of the 67, in some auto parts stores. They're not common, though. I found them at a Mom-n-Pop-type place which no longer exists. It sucks that real parts stores are all being forced out of business by McParts stores.
I just did a quick Google and it looks like you can order them online from
automotive-lighting.com.
If you can't find the right bulbs, you could dip the 67s in some clear amber model paint. It'd be better than having flashing white lights on the front of your car, which are illegal and potentially confusing.
If you have 88 bulbs in there that's very weird. The 88 doesn't even have the same base as the 67 -- it's dual-filament.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:57 pm
by tris91ricer
Coolio!
Now, if I read the first few posts correctly, I can use that info to make my sidemarkers (fr. fender lights) flash as turn signals?