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Odd place for a turbo

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:10 am
by AWD_addict
I saw this on i-club. Thought I'd put it here to see what you guys think.

http://ststurbo.com/home

I think it's an interesting but stupid idea. Mud in the air filter much?

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:59 am
by QuickDrive
DOUBLE U TEE EFF

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:40 am
by THAWA
this is like the 3rd or 4th topic about this.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:48 am
by legacycontinues
LOL!! Too funny.

"Don't get them started....trust me!"

See "my turbo died tonight" in the ashtray for more on this subject.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:14 am
by azn2nr
it was on 2guys garage today if you get speed.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:17 am
by legacycontinues
Thats where I saw it done. On a Camaro right.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:36 am
by azn2nr
yeah comaro. voer 100hp and tq increace in their car just bolting it on.

its been around for a long time. im an avid advocate of it ever since it came out over 2 years ago.

the one on the itr traped a 96 on a 1/8th mile. thats about an 10-11 second 1/4 mine run. though it does have a built bottom end thats still impressive for the cost vs performance factor.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:04 am
by legacycontinues
I'm going to walk away from this thread before all hell breaks loose.....Come with me if you want to live.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:26 am
by evolutionmovement
100 extra horsepower without extra fueling?

Steve

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:33 am
by Yukonart
azn2nr wrote:the one on the itr traped a 96 on a 1/8th mile. thats about an 10-11 second 1/4 mine run. though it does have a built bottom end thats still impressive for the cost vs performance factor.

Timeslip?

(Because I'm calling BS on this) :)

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:37 am
by legacycontinues
As per the right hand side of my screen...

www.turbonator.com

Supercharge your legacy for 35HP gains.....

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:09 am
by THAWA
I thought you were leaving.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:35 am
by legacycontinues
I had to make fun of the turbonator before everyone tears this guy a new one for talking about the remote mount turbo.

It's a free country. I cum and go as I please.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:57 am
by douglas vincent
All the documentation I have read shows it works. No documentation yet to show it doesnt except for internet naysayers.

Personally I want to do it on my 460 Ford cause there IS NO ROOM in the engine bay.l

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:27 am
by azn2nr
they posted the results on the website for the itr. and like i said before it put down over 300 on a mustang here in town.

what they dont tell you is that the itr blew the motor after he got past the 1/8th mile point and it resulted in a 13sec pass at 95 mph. if the motor had not gone the pass would have ended in the 10-11 sec range. also what they didnt tell you is that the car was untuned on a stock motor running the highest recomended amount of boost made by the likes of greddy and hks for a gsr not an itr. he was alos using a methanol injection bandaid. the motor has been built now and engine management has been added of some sort no one knows what exactly but as soon as the track opens this season we should be seeing updated numbers for that car.

as for the f-bodys yes its an over 100 tq and hp increace just by bolting on the kit running 5 psi. the kit consists of a reflashed ecu tuned for extra fuel. 7 psi can be ran with the optional methanol injection for gains nearing the 200 mark for hp and torq

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:33 am
by BAC5.2
I stand by my ideas that the kit might work for the drag strip, but it'd be a cold day in hell before I ever considered using it on a daily driver.

If Tim Allen can supercharge a Caddillac CTS, and if Chuck Mallet can stuff a supercharged 7 liter under the hood of a CTS-V, and if GM Performance is going to be releasing a 500hp supercharged CTS-SuperV, I'm sure you can find room for a turbo in an engine bay.

Turbo isn't always the way to go. Why not centrifugal supercharge? Similar properties to a turbo, less piping.

Fast, reliable, cheap. Pick two. I don't think the remote turbo fits the second very well.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:55 am
by azn2nr
thats the thing though. most of the kits purchased from this company are on daily drivers not track queens. if you wach the 2 guys garage youll see that the torq curve starts earlier than stock and holds the power curve verry well.

look i know im not gonna convince you phil, after all you are entitled to your opinion. most people that think its a bad idea the first time they see it usualy wont ever see the light until they take a ride or see one in action in person. id recomend going to an local chapter of an fbod website and seeing if someone will take you for a ride.

or you can dl some of the vids off the site and maybe thatll show you the way

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:52 pm
by AWD_addict
THAWA wrote:this is like the 3rd or 4th topic about this.
:oops: I suck at teh interweb.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:33 pm
by scottzg
How do they support the weight of the turbo? To the chassis? To the piping?

I don't see either working, on is on rubber isolators, the other isn't the exhaust. So what do they do?

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:27 pm
by NuwanD
It's a nice idea... you can turbo a car without adding to an already crowded engine bay, turbo doesn't run as hot... etc

But, lag is and always will be an issue with this kit, just as it is when going to a FMIC setup. Sure you can "properly size" the turbo to the amount of piping but really you still can't avoid the lag without sacrificing the power band somewhere. That said this system would work great on a high-compression N/A motor with large displacement... and that's why they are being used on the f-body platform and on pickups.

I'd never want this to be on any 4cyl car with low displacement and boost friendly compression ratios.... but those fwd drag guys need the lag to prevent themselves from spinning the tires out of control on launch

welcome to lag-ville... population: one remote turbo :lol: ...

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:43 pm
by azn2nr
lag didnt seem to be a problem with the itr. even though, i have traction problems after lag goes away.

the suport is made by the stock hangers used for the exhaust.