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Ok, so this is just getting annoying.

I need brakes. I got brakes. I have yet to receive part of my purchase from a vendor.

I ordered rear rotors from www.all-foreign.com last Saturday. They were here on Monday. I was REALLY impressed (they beat tire rack!!!)

Pads from Tire Rack were here Tuesday.

Racing Brake front rotors and Hawk pads were here on Tuesday as well.

However, AZP Installs, whom I ordered the Rotors/pads and my ATE Superblue fluid from, have yet to get me my brake fluid.

My car was supposed to be back on the road on thursday, but it's now Saturday night, 7 days after I ordered, and 4 days after my other order from them arrived, and I am fluidless.

This is fucking ridiculous. I called AZP on Wednesday, asking where my fluid was. They said they drop shipped the rotors and pads from RacingBrake and that my fluid was sent USPS on monday or tuesday. They are NOT that far away, USPS shipped a box to me from PA from a member here, and it was here within 24 hours of shipment notification. OGRacing had fluid on my doorstep in less than 24 hours. The mail service isn't that slow.

I'm getting fucking pissed off. What is going on!?

Now, instead of having my car back on the ground, it's down for another 2 days, so that means that my parents need to carpool to work so I can take my dads truck (which has now cost me $60 in gas for the 7 days I've been driving it) to get to an exam on Monday, all because someone couldn't drop a fucking package in the fucking mail.

I want my brake fluid so I can get my car back from its 8 day hiatus. Nothing should take 7 days to arrive from under 1000 miles away. NOTHING. I'd have been better off never even bothering to help a budding business, and going to MachV Motorsports and getting all the parts I needed when I needed them. I would have at least had them when I needed them and not getting fucked, now having to spend even more money when I shouldn't have had to.

If it's not here on Monday, there are going to be some serious problems. I paid for it, it has yet to arrive. What the fuck.

If it wasn't going to be here in time, just tell me and I would cancel my order and get it from somewhere who would come through. Don't lie to me, because you'll never get my business again.

Am I over reacting, or am I justified to want something when I order it?

Did you inform them it was needed ASAP? Not that it really matters, but if it were my business and you told me ASAP, yet still haven't received it a week later I'd give it to you for nothing. What if you just throw some regular stuff in so you can drive it and just bleed it out later?

Steve

I could do that, but I was betting on it being here today when I got home from work. I was gonna fill up the system so I could drive my car to work tomorrow.

So I don't have any shitty fluid to fix it with. Not to mention that's more money than I should have to spend since it was SUPPOSED TO BE HERE a week ago.

I told them on Wednesday that I absolutely needed it by Thursday, and was told that it was no problem.

I feel like I should get it for free, or at least get me a second bottle for free. Or maybe cover some of the gas charges of the monster truck that would otherwise have laid dormant for the past 7 days. Everyone is inconvenienced now, because of this. Ridiculous.

This industry is bullshit.

I feel like I get screwed a lot also and i get really pissed when it feels like i cant really do anything about it.

Man that sucks Phil. You've got every right to pissed. Hope it works out for you though bro.

Why dont you just go buy a bottle of brake fluid from the store?

Yeah, this does suck. And it happens a lot. In my experience, you can rarely rely on getting something on time. And usually there's no satisfaction. On occasion I've had a vendor make it up to me by refunding some of the money or offering me freebies, but it's rare.

I agree with Hardy... just get some Valvoline Syntec or whatever, fix your car, and flush it out for ATE when you get it.

The problem was that I wasn't home all day on Saturday, until I posted this.

I have been working almost non stop for the past week, and on Thursday, when the fluid didn't show, I didn't have time to go to the store because I was trying to study for a math exam.

Saturday, I worked all day, and went to my ladyfriends house to get some dinner with her friend and her mom. Got home, was gonna finish up, and then be happy. Can't buy brake fluid at 10pm.

Today, same story, I have been at work all day, and just got home.

I'll go to my friends shop and borrow a bottle of ATE and just give him my bottle when ever it shows up.

7 days to make it where 2 days should have done fine is ridiculous. On time would have been Tuesday. This wasn't even on the charts for time. It doesn't take USPS 7 days to mail ANYTHING anywhere.

Inconvenient, is all. And I'm pissed, because it inconveniences everyone. I need my motorcycle, so I can have something to drive when my car is down.

BAC5.2 wrote: I need my motorcycle, so I can have something to drive when my car is down.

Not to sound like an unsympathetic jerk, but it kind of amuses me that your car has been down for a week because of BRAKE FLUID.


On a completely unrelated note, does anyone know how hot brake pads can get and still be functional? It'd be nice to know that you're going to overextend your pads long before your fluid boils.

*edit*
In an attempt to answer my own question, i came across this
http://www.bira.org/fluids.html
I'm gonna have to get me sommadat pickup stuff.

Scott - My car has been down due to lack of time, and unreliable service. I was expecting brake fluid to arrive, and it didn't and I didn't have time to get stuff from the store.

Same goes for Saturday night. If you have 24 hour parts stores around you, that's awesome. We don't, and at 10pm on a Saturday night, there isn't anywhere to find brake fluid.

Oh, and pads have a heat range where they are tolerant and resistant to glazing and fade. 500 degrees PAD temperature is normal for "regular" pads, to allow full braking power, beyond that and you experience fade. Performance pads have higher heat ranges, but require heating up in order to grab well, or they are super super harsh to get cold-grabbing acceptable and they wear out fast.

Scott - Wet boiling point is more important than dry. Dry boiling point is insignificant, as fluid collects moisture constantly. A bottle sitting open for 30 minutes will have significantly lower boiling point than a bottle sitting for 30 seconds.

Semi's are serviced outrageously often. If you don't bleed your brakes every time you change your oil, you should be more concerned with BOTH numbers.

For comfort alone, I'll stick with ATE Superblue. It's got a much more consistent lifespan. And i've boiled regular pep-boys fluids. It's not THAT difficult. When you drain the fluid, and it comes out kind of gooey and shit, that's a sign of boiling.

If you dont have time to buy a bottle of brake fluid, how were you expecting to replace the brakes?

I worked on the car at night... Why else would I have ordered the fluid in the first place?

I thought that was because you wanted ATE super blue, and could get it from the same place you ordered the rotors and pads from. But seriously, it takes all of what 10 minutes to go to the store and buy a bottle of brake fluid? You could've got a bottle on the way to dinner, or asked one of your parents to pick up a bottle on their way home.

Parents were at the beach all week and I was home alone. My mom came home on Sunday and we drove back to the beach and I drove my dads truck back home on Sunday night. I wasn't concerned about not having the fluid then, as it was before the time crunch.

On the way to dinner, I left right from work, and still barely made it in time. Left her house at 9:15, and got home to find nothing on the door step.

When I say that I've been busy this week, I mean it. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and today, I've had time after 10pm only, really. Not to mention that I live in the boonies, and it does only take 15 minutes to get to the store and get fluid (15 minutes each way), but that's 15 minutes in the wrong direction of everywhere I need to go.

BAC5.2 wrote:Scott - Wet boiling point is more important than dry. Dry boiling point is insignificant, as fluid collects moisture constantly.

This is news to me.

Personally, i run high temp rated dot 3 stuff since the dot 4 stuff boil temp falls off quicker when it gets wet.

Sucks that it took so long for such a simple item.

You can't leave a bottle of brake fluid stagnant for more than 30 minutes before it's boiling point is drastically reduced.

Look at the ATE fluid compared to all of those other fluids. Dry temp isn't as high as the Ford stuff or some of the others, but wet temp is outrageously high. Which is why I said it's got a more predictable and stable lifetime, unlike the Ford stuff which peaks then falls off REALLY quickly.

I think you can buy ate type 200 at porsche dealerships. This is the same stuff as superblue.

I wouldn't buy anything from a porsche dealership. They probably charge 20 bucks a bottle!

I think it's the car modding gods punishing you for doing engine mods before suspension and brake mods

BAC5.2 wrote:I wouldn't buy anything from a porsche dealership. They probably charge 20 bucks a bottle!

10 bucks is a small price to pay to have your car working all week, imo.

I doubt its that much.