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2.2L N/A

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:51 pm
by asc_up
ok so before coming onto this sight i thought i knew a descent amount about cars until i started reading posts and then i realized just how much of a retard i am. lol.

so anyways....i figure this might help for people looking to mod a 2.2L N/A.

what sorts of mods can i do to my 2.2L n/a engine to get it up to about 150 or 160 whp? (that seems like a reasonable hp to me...tell me if it's not).

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:00 pm
by Splinter

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:21 am
by asc_up
thanks for the info but i've already read those before lol.

basically if people could just give me a parts list of things that they would do to their car, that would be great.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:00 am
by Imprezive
Do you mean 150whp without a turbo or supercharger? That would be an interesting build...

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:25 am
by asc_up
yeah that's exactly what i want.

any ideas?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:34 am
by jnorion
Buy a new car.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:36 am
by asc_up
mmmm i don't think so...
and i'm really not asking for that much extra hp.....

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:40 am
by jnorion
It's quite a bit more, actually. The EJ22 is rated at 130hp at the crank in stock form. I'm assuming for the moment you have AWD, which I have read elsewhere on the site can equal 30-40% drivetrain loss. That gives you between 90 and 100 whp in stock form, when the car was new, and chances are it's lost a bit since then. So you're asking for 50-70 extra horses from bolt-ons, and if you haven't noticed the aftermarket for the N/A engine is lacking a bit.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but it will be difficult and expensive.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:52 am
by asc_up
oh...i thought the 130 was whp.

can i get it up to 150 chp then?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:29 am
by Splinter
For 150chp Id say exhaust, clean up the intake, and adjustable cam/crank gears so you can push the timing up a little

I dont think they make those for our cars tho

Reground cams and ported heads would also make a significant improvement

Also, tighten up the valvetrain and get an MSD so you can up redline 1K

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:45 am
by asc_up
how does the MSD up my redline 1K? would i need to remove my rev limiter so i could get it up that high? or would it just help me accelerate more quickly?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:54 am
by Murphy
would the EJ25 RS heads work with the N/A block?
that and Cobb equal length headers, you could throw on a Mr.Josh lightwieght pulley

what is the ordering process for getting your cams reground by Delta, anyone know? i know a few of you do, im curious, i dont know much about cams and regrinding, but if i want a little bit more top end power for the street what would i tell them?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:56 am
by asc_up
yeah i wonder if the ej25 will fit cause i could throw on the equal lenght headers which would be nice.

i already have a perrin lightweight pulley....does it differ much from a mr. josh's?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:01 am
by Splinter
Murphy wrote:what is the ordering process for getting your cams reground by Delta, anyone know? i know a few of you do, im curious, i dont know much about cams and regrinding, but if i want a little bit more top end power for the street what would i tell them?
Email them, tell them what you want, and wait for them to reply ;)

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:04 am
by asc_up
are they based out of tacoma?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:16 am
by Splinter
I dunno exactly, somewhere in Washington

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:40 am
by dzx
I called them and got a free shirt with my order, but that was probably a year ago, maybe more. You package the cams up, write what stage you want them reground and mail them in. They are actually very quick. I had mine back in under a week. I can't remember but I think they called me up as soon as they were done regrinding them and I paid them then.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:56 am
by asc_up
does it may a significant difference when you have the cam reground?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:34 pm
by Murphy
depends on how agressive the cam is
i would think you could get 20hp without lossing drivability, maybe more torque than hp, it all depends on what setup you get, the more agressive cams will get you more power but youll lose drivability because it will idle very rough and a realy agressive cam might not idle at all, and youll suck gas down like a mofo,

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:10 am
by asc_up
ok.

so what would i tell the people at Delta if i wanted agressive cams but i want to have a descent idle?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:20 am
by 206er
why dont you just call them up!
they are in tacoma.

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:22 am
by asc_up
cause i'm not exactly sure what i want...

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:06 pm
by Murphy
send them an email, or call them up, tell them you dont know much abot it and you just want help ordering the right cam
ask about the odering and shipping process and what info they need with it

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:01 pm
by Splinter
Their job is to sell you what you want, even if you dont know what it is.

They would love to help you and take your money :P

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:01 am
by asc_up
haha i'm sure they would.

i guess i'll give them a call soon.

how much hp or torque can i expect from having this done?