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Which motor is better?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:56 am
by userm5898
Is a 2.5 DOHC better than a 2.5 SOHC and I've heard people say the 2.2 is better all together?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:04 am
by DLC
The Phase II SOHC is preferred to the Phase I DOHC. It's mostly due to reliability from the weak cylinder support in the DOHC models and their propensity to have headgasket problems.

The DOHC revs higher, but the SOHC has a much better torque curve and is easier to drive.

Some EJ22 models have problems also, but they're generally considered very strong engines.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:57 am
by userm5898
Thanks I have heard from others that the sohc produces a higher torque curve. and my 98 legacy 2.5L DOHC has head gasket problems so maybe ill swap a sohc phase II.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:17 pm
by 94TurboWagon
Stick with a 2.2

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:18 pm
by 94TurboWagon
Isnt the EJ22T the best 2.2 engine ever

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:27 pm
by DLC
The 22B engine is the "best" 2.2L factory engine Subaru produced.

The EJ22 in the North American Legacy is a very, very good engine...if you replace the heads and the pistons.

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:58 pm
by BXSS
DLC wrote:The 22B engine is the "best" 2.2L factory engine Subaru produced.

The EJ22 in the North American Legacy is a very, very good engine...if you replace the heads and the pistons.
I agree with you, but once you swap heads (+ intake), pistons (& rods) all that is left of the original motor is the crank & block...

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:04 am
by DLC
...and?

If you're going to efficiently make over 300CHP you should have forged pistons. The stock rods are forged, but some lighter ones wouldn't be a bad idea. PnP the heads and intake manifold, or put on some WRX DOHC heads and you're breathing much, much better.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:39 am
by douglas vincent
Mine. :twisted:








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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:32 am
by Matt Monson
userm5898 wrote:Thanks I have heard from others that the sohc produces a higher torque curve. and my 98 legacy 2.5L DOHC has head gasket problems so maybe ill swap a sohc phase II.
Not an easy conversion. Do your homework before you run out and buy a SOHC Ej25 for that car...

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:23 am
by DLC
Do you have any Phase II SOHC motors lying around? I might need one.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:34 pm
by Matt Monson
DLC wrote:Do you have any Phase II SOHC motors lying around? I might need one.
Again? :( The only one I have is my built motor, and once I get the valve guide seals repaired, it's going in the wife's car. Sorry. I'll keep my ears open for one. PM me what kind of budget you are working with and more idea of what you are doing and I will see what I can do...

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:56 pm
by BXSS
DLC wrote:...and?
Once you change all of the internals + heads just about any motor can make good power, but I still think you are right & the ej22t has the most potential for a 2.2L !

A friend of mine has a '05 2.5l with a cracked piston - (AVO turbo Kit...) that he was going to get rid of once his car is swapped.
I could get details for you if you are interested.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:44 pm
by DLC
My engine is still working fine, but it's eating or leaking coolant again. Might be the HG once more, or maybe a pinhole leak in the radiator or...

I'd be looking for something I could plop in, more or less, over something that'd need the case cracked. Thanks though.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:20 pm
by BXSS
I hear ya.

Good Luck!