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Hey Boyz and Gals,

I did the "pipe-swap" I talked abt earlier, and ran
the car on the dyno before and after... here are the
result!
First, remember that my exhaust was not a standard one
to begin with, it was standard all the way to the
muffler, from where it was modified from 2" to 2.5"
with a Simons muffler. So these figures are not
entirely compatible to a completely standard pipe.
Another thing, when we tested the car abt six months
ago, I had a JR performance drop-in air filter on it,
and now I had a stock filter (due to a "misfortune"
with the MAF...). The conditions might have been
slightly different, but I won't invest my money in a
performance filter like that again, my car had 0.8kW
more power now than with the JR filter!
Anyway, here are the figures you're all waiting for:
with my "original" pipe, 173kW/235HP, and after
switching to the 2.5" pipe with no cat....
192.2kW/261HP!!!!!!!!!

It feels like driving a completely different car!

Unfortunately the dyno chart is a b/w sheet, but I'll
put it on my website in color when I get it modified,
then the different runs will be easier to see...

cheers (with a smile up to my eeears!!!),



Miguelito

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I can't understand the dyno chart, how about you just tell me what it's like now to drive, so I can drool at my keyboard, call me strange but dyno charts don't really float my boat.

How about some pics of your new car I heard you had it sprayed

cheers

Penty

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From: Miguelito <mailto:awdturbodude@yahoo.com>
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 6:34 PM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Cat vs. no cat, dyno chart attached!

Hey Boyz and Gals,

I did the "pipe-swap" I talked abt earlier, and ran
the car on the dyno before and after... here are the
result!
First, remember that my exhaust was not a standard one
to begin with, it was standard all the way to the
muffler, from where it was modified from 2" to 2.5"
with a Simons muffler. So these figures are not
entirely compatible to a completely standard pipe.
Another thing, when we tested the car abt six months
ago, I had a JR performance drop-in air filter on it,
and now I had a stock filter (due to a "misfortune"
with the MAF...). The conditions might have been
slightly different, but I won't invest my money in a
performance filter like that again, my car had 0.8kW
more power now than with the JR filter!
Anyway, here are the figures you're all waiting for:
with my "original" pipe, 173kW/235HP, and after
switching to the 2.5" pipe with no cat....
192.2kW/261HP!!!!!!!!!

It feels like driving a completely different car!

Unfortunately the dyno chart is a b/w sheet, but I'll
put it on my website in color when I get it modified,
then the different runs will be easier to see...

cheers (with a smile up to my eeears!!!),



Miguelito

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What it's like to drive now, well, I'd say that the one thing that
makes the biggest difference is that the "boost builds up sooner" if
you catch my drift... when it hits 3000-3100rpm, it really GOES, when
it earlier needed almost 3400-3500rpm before it started moving.
The boost is now rising to 1.35bar (max), and of course, that's not
soooo nice, but I put a bigger bleed valve (0.7mm) on my boost
solenoid, and the car works fine. The previous owner (and builder) of
the exhaust said that his non-chipped Legacy also raised the boost
till 1.2bar, and that caused some problems for him too, too bad he
didn't know the "cheap way" of regulating it...

Regarding the dyno chart... if you're strange, then there's two of
us, cause I can't get that much out of them either, but the figures
are quite relevant, aren't they. The text is in finnish, but as you
can se, ~355Nm/3850rpm torgue and ~192kW/5650rpm are quite nice
figures, if I may say so myself.

I shot some pics the other day of my (very dirty) yellow car, and as
soon as I get them developed, I'll scan'em (noop, no digital camera
in our house...) and put them on my website.

cheers,

Miguelito

PS. the sound from a straight (=non-cat) pipe is REALLY something...

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...> wrote:
> I can't understand the dyno chart, how about you just tell me what
it's like now to drive, so I can drool at my keyboard, call me
strange but dyno charts don't really float my boat.
>
> How about some pics of your new car I heard you had it sprayed
>
> cheers
>
> Penty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Miguelito
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 6:34 PM
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Cat vs. no cat, dyno chart attached!
>
>
> Hey Boyz and Gals,
>
> I did the "pipe-swap" I talked abt earlier, and ran
> the car on the dyno before and after... here are the
> result!
> First, remember that my exhaust was not a standard one
> to begin with, it was standard all the way to the
> muffler, from where it was modified from 2" to 2.5"
> with a Simons muffler. So these figures are not
> entirely compatible to a completely standard pipe.
> Another thing, when we tested the car abt six months
> ago, I had a JR performance drop-in air filter on it,
> and now I had a stock filter (due to a "misfortune"
> with the MAF...). The conditions might have been
> slightly different, but I won't invest my money in a
> performance filter like that again, my car had 0.8kW
> more power now than with the JR filter!
> Anyway, here are the figures you're all waiting for:
> with my "original" pipe, 173kW/235HP, and after
> switching to the 2.5" pipe with no cat....
> 192.2kW/261HP!!!!!!!!!
>
> It feels like driving a completely different car!
>
> Unfortunately the dyno chart is a b/w sheet, but I'll
> put it on my website in color when I get it modified,
> then the different runs will be easier to see...
>
> cheers (with a smile up to my eeears!!!),
>
>
>
> Miguelito
>
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Here's a better pic of the chart...

cheers,

Miguelito


--- Miguelito <awdturbodude@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey Boyz and Gals,
>
> I did the "pipe-swap" I talked abt earlier, and ran
> the car on the dyno before and after... here are the
> result!
> First, remember that my exhaust was not a standard
> one
> to begin with, it was standard all the way to the
> muffler, from where it was modified from 2" to 2.5"
> with a Simons muffler. So these figures are not
> entirely compatible to a completely standard pipe.
> Another thing, when we tested the car abt six months
> ago, I had a JR performance drop-in air filter on
> it,
> and now I had a stock filter (due to a "misfortune"
> with the MAF...). The conditions might have been
> slightly different, but I won't invest my money in a
> performance filter like that again, my car had 0.8kW
> more power now than with the JR filter!
> Anyway, here are the figures you're all waiting for:
> with my "original" pipe, 173kW/235HP, and after
> switching to the 2.5" pipe with no cat....
> 192.2kW/261HP!!!!!!!!!
>
> It feels like driving a completely different car!
>
> Unfortunately the dyno chart is a b/w sheet, but
> I'll
> put it on my website in color when I get it
> modified,
> then the different runs will be easier to see...
>
> cheers (with a smile up to my eeears!!!),
>
>
>
> Miguelito
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 2 image/pjpeg name=dyno.jpg



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BTW: my 90 passed wash. state emission with everything under 1/2 of
the max readings..with both cats empty...

Also, about the borla headers, I see they have been redesigned, more
power and wont break anymore..So they say..They do look different
then the first ones that came out this year...One day Ill get one..




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