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Clutch Problems... Big Time!
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:06 am
by smh0101
When I swapped the motor yesterday, I did my best to put the clutch disc dead center...
However, its all back together... And not working well
The pedal comes all the way up like it should, however the clutch, when engaging, chatters. And only the last (closest to the floor) 1.5 inches of pedal travel have any effect.
Any thoughts?
Did I not get it aligned right?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:35 am
by PhyrraM
If you got the engine and the transmission together, you got it lined up OK.
Did you use the same exact flywheel, pressure plate and disc? If so, then you are probably just at the end of the clutches life.
Try bleeding it?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:36 am
by 555BCTurbo
Did you grease the snout of the transaxle?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:43 am
by smh0101
The clutch is damn near brand new...
And Nick... No... You mean the end of the input shaft?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:43 am
by smh0101
And yeah, same exact everything.
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:24 pm
by Legacy777
How well did you clean the clutch disc, pp, & flywheel.
Chances are you got oil on it when the engine blew...and could be the cause of the chatter.
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:00 am
by smh0101
Um... I didnt... it all seemed very dry.
Is it a possibility that I put the disc in backwards?
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:11 am
by 555BCTurbo
smh0101 wrote:
And Nick... No... You mean the end of the input shaft?
No...I don't mean the input shaft.
The snout of the tranny is what surrounds the input shaft...where the throughout bearing rides. If it isn't greased the clutch will be very difficult to modulate
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:16 am
by smh0101
Ah, gotcha... No I didnt grease anything...
I'm betting I installed it wrong, and since I have to pull the motor again anyways... I dont really car, I'll figure it out... I guess.
But is it possible that I accidentally reversed the disc?
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:18 am
by PhyrraM
Don't think so. I believe there is enough offset on the disc to prevent the pressure plate from going on if the disc is reversed.
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:20 am
by 555BCTurbo
The grease part is vitally important...
If you don't believe me, call Dale and he will tell you the same thing
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:55 am
by smh0101
Well, the clutch pedal moves like normal... Its just the clutch engagment is horrible.
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:08 am
by 555BCTurbo
smh0101 wrote:Well, the clutch pedal moves like normal... Its just the clutch engagment is horrible.
Yep...the precise symptoms of not greasing the snout
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:20 am
by smh0101
I really feel stupid right now but I'm still having trouble figuring out what the snout is...
There is the bell housing that mounts to the engine... and within said housing is the clutch which connects to the flywheel, then the input shaft that goes into the clutch assembly... Now on said shaft there are splines, but also on there is a smooth round shaft at the end. Is that the snout?
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:38 am
by PhyrraM
The snout is the part that has the throwout bearing on it, you can see a thin layer of red grease on it in the pic.
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:07 pm
by smh0101
OH! cool, gotcha...
But um, when I separated the engine from tranny, that part stayed with the engine... Is that bad?
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:10 pm
by 555BCTurbo
smh0101 wrote:OH! cool, gotcha...
But um, when I separated the engine from tranny, that part stayed with the engine... Is that bad?
No, it is supposed to...
BUT GREASE THE SNOUT!
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:18 pm
by smh0101
Okay, will do...
Thanks.
Nick did you see my latest posts in the engine thread?
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:22 pm
by 555BCTurbo
Nooo...I will look