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HID's?
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:50 am
by LookAsubie
Ok, i really want to get a set of HID's for my car but i havent seen many turbo legacies with them.
i have the EDM glass headlights. do i have to do anything to make them fit/work? or will they fit right in and work fine?
i have heard about the pattern being all screwed up, but my beam pattern is already kinda screwed up so im not really worried about that.
anyways, can any give me some recoomendations? which are good, which ones to stay away from?
and if you have any pics of them on your car please post.
any help is appreciated. thanks.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:02 am
by 555BCTurbo
The main concern is blinding the other drivers...
So don't do it...
btw...I live in Svensen...not far from you
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:17 am
by LookAsubie
nice, gimme a wave if you see me sometime.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:30 am
by fishbone79
If installed and used correctly they won't blind anyone any more than normal lights will.
I had a set of Osram's converted from an older Audi for a while, they were 5000k and a bit too blueish for me. If I were to do it again, I would probably get something in the 4000k range. However, I've since switched back to halogen, the light quality (note, not the quantity) is superior.
I am unbelievably happy with my Silverstar bulbs - no conversion necessary and the light quality and quantity is awesome. They are not the cheap "HID lookalike" bulbs (they really don't look like HID's), but they do run at a higher wattage (75W vs. 50w oem). The set I have has been in for 4 years with no "early burnout" issues - and I tend to leave my lights on ~70% of the time. I did get the higher-end silverstars though.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:23 am
by Buffman
fishbone79 wrote:If installed and used correctly they won't blind anyone any more than normal lights will.
I had a set of Osram's converted from an older Audi for a while, they were 5000k and a bit too blueish for me. If I were to do it again, I would probably get something in the 4000k range. However, I've since switched back to halogen, the light quality (note, not the quantity) is superior.
I am unbelievably happy with my Silverstar bulbs - no conversion necessary and the light quality and quantity is awesome. They are not the cheap "HID lookalike" bulbs (they really don't look like HID's), but they do run at a higher wattage (75W vs. 50w oem). The set I have has been in for 4 years with no "early burnout" issues - and I tend to leave my lights on ~70% of the time. I did get the higher-end silverstars though.
the silverstars don't put out anymore light than a stock bulb. sorry. Perhaps maybe the Ultras do if they're rated at 70watts, but unless you increase wattage you're not getting any more lumens.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:14 pm
by fishbone79
Buffman wrote:fishbone79 wrote: ....but they do run at a higher wattage (75W vs. 50w oem).
the silverstars don't put out anymore light than a stock bulb. sorry. Perhaps maybe the Ultras do if they're rated at 70watts, but unless you increase wattage you're not getting any more lumens.
I've actually compared the luminosity between the two using the inverse square law with a null-photometer (I work in a geology lab), they are roughly 40% brighter (i.e. 40% more lumens), whereas the HID's were ~90% brighter. The light quality is far superior to OEM, and much easier on the eyes than the HID's were. Normal silverstars are not brighter, they just put out light in a different band (supposedly closer to white); these actually increase the amount of light. I was a bit disappointed that 50w vs 75w was such a small increase, but I understand that the relationship is non-linear. I have the actual data somewhere if you're interested.
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:23 am
by LookAsubie
fishbone79 wrote:If installed and used correctly they won't blind anyone any more than normal lights will.
I had a set of Osram's converted from an older Audi for a while, they were 5000k and a bit too blueish for me. If I were to do it again, I would probably get something in the 4000k range. However, I've since switched back to halogen, the light quality (note, not the quantity) is superior.
I am unbelievably happy with my Silverstar bulbs - no conversion necessary and the light quality and quantity is awesome. They are not the cheap "HID lookalike" bulbs (they really don't look like HID's), but they do run at a higher wattage (75W vs. 50w oem). The set I have has been in for 4 years with no "early burnout" issues - and I tend to leave my lights on ~70% of the time. I did get the higher-end silverstars though.
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:16 am
by Buffman
fishbone79 wrote:Buffman wrote:fishbone79 wrote: ....but they do run at a higher wattage (75W vs. 50w oem).
the silverstars don't put out anymore light than a stock bulb. sorry. Perhaps maybe the Ultras do if they're rated at 70watts, but unless you increase wattage you're not getting any more lumens.
I've actually compared the luminosity between the two using the inverse square law with a null-photometer (I work in a geology lab), they are roughly 40% brighter (i.e. 40% more lumens), whereas the HID's were ~90% brighter. The light quality is far superior to OEM, and much easier on the eyes than the HID's were. Normal silverstars are not brighter, they just put out light in a different band (supposedly closer to white); these actually increase the amount of light. I was a bit disappointed that 50w vs 75w was such a small increase, but I understand that the relationship is non-linear. I have the actual data somewhere if you're interested.
good to know. Like I said I can't find any ratings for the SSU, so it's good to know they are actually brighter and not just claimed brighter as the normal SS are.
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:33 pm
by fishbone79
Yeah, I tried the regular silverstar bulbs and, while I could see better, they were not actually brighter. The light quality is better because of the shorter wavelength.... but not enough to warrant $18/bulb. The ultras, or whatever they are called, are awesome though.