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Posted: **Mon Sep 10, 2001 7:13 pm**

Legacy Central is definitely the place to go! I went there myself b4 I
installed the HBC on my car. It's pretty easy you take off those hoses and
use the hoses that are on your new BC and you can plug the nipples on the old
stock solenoid. I've had mine for about 4 mths and I find the HBC works
pretty well!!! But boost will still fluctuate depending on the weather. I
have it set at about 11-12psi but when it gets real hot it doesn't go past
10psi. I'm just waiting for winter to see how much my max boost will be then.
The HBC allows you to increase your HP and the turbo spools up faster. You
will definitely feel the difference in the way the car drives.

Fred
------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 196:31 -0000
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
From: Dave.C[legacycentral]@yahoo.com
Sender: sentto-2208544-4398-@gcs.alias
Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost control solenoid...

Mike, go to Legacy Central, into the Library, and read Matt's HBC
guide. It has a full set of instructions, with pictures, on how this
setup works.

If you have any questions, you can more easily refer back to that
document about them.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p." <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> i was reading the hallman boost controller installation
instructions
> for a single turbo car and it says that:
>
> "most of the late model turbo cars have a boost control solenoid
> that the ECU can control to raise or lower boost depending on if it
> sees knock or not. If you encounter this i would recommend removing
> the lines that go to and from it...."
>
> now while i was out playing around under my hood i traced a couple
> lines from my turbo and they ran to what seemed like the said
> solenoid. my question is, has anyone removed the lines from
theirs?
> what do yo do with the lines once removed? reconnect them together?
> (would that be the spot to hook up the controller, in place of
where
> the solenoid was) is this really that beneficial? it says that
> doing this will result in "rock steady boost with this particular
> controller".

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Posted: **Mon Sep 10, 2001 10:21 pm**

yeah, legacy central really helped out alot. i did the vacuum bypass
and got my generic(eek, for now anywho) boost guage in, but now i'm
seeing my boost is at 10-11 psi and this is still stock. i think i
have a wastgate problem. anyone know how much a new wastegate runs?
i don't actually have a HBC, i'm trying to figure out a way to just
get the parts and build one myself. i've read about the grignard
(sp.?) valve and am tying to find a cheaper valve that would do the
trick without going the aquarium route. any suggestions?

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., FREDERICK.WHITMORE@C... wrote:
> Legacy Central is definitely the place to go! I went there myself
b4 I
> installed the HBC on my car. It's pretty easy you take off those
hoses and
> use the hoses that are on your new BC and you can plug the nipples
on the old
> stock solenoid. I've had mine for about 4 mths and I find the HBC
works
> pretty well!!! But boost will still fluctuate depending on the
weather. I
> have it set at about 11-12psi but when it gets real hot it doesn't
go past
> 10psi. I'm just waiting for winter to see how much my max boost
will be then.
> The HBC allows you to increase your HP and the turbo spools up
faster. You
> will definitely feel the difference in the way the car drives.
>
> Fred
> ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 196:31 -0000
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> From: Dave.C[legacycentral]@yahoo.com
> Sender: sentto-2208544-4398-@gcs.alias
> Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost control solenoid...
>
> Mike, go to Legacy Central, into the Library, and read Matt's HBC
> guide. It has a full set of instructions, with pictures, on how
this
> setup works.
>
> If you have any questions, you can more easily refer back to that
> document about them.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p." <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> > i was reading the hallman boost controller installation
> instructions
> > for a single turbo car and it says that:
> >
> > "most of the late model turbo cars have a boost control solenoid
> > that the ECU can control to raise or lower boost depending on if
it
> > sees knock or not. If you encounter this i would recommend
removing
> > the lines that go to and from it...."
> >
> > now while i was out playing around under my hood i traced a couple
> > lines from my turbo and they ran to what seemed like the said
> > solenoid. my question is, has anyone removed the lines from
> theirs?
> > what do yo do with the lines once removed? reconnect them
together?
> > (would that be the spot to hook up the controller, in place of
> where
> > the solenoid was) is this really that beneficial? it says that
> > doing this will result in "rock steady boost with this particular
> > controller".
>
>
>
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Posted: **Mon Sep 10, 2001 11:07 pm**

Mike-

I STRONGLY advice you to go out and purchase a REAL boost gauge. something
by autometer, VDO, Greddy, Blitz, or APEXi will do. If you don't have a real
boost gauge, you may not be accurately measuring the psi or Bar that you
have.

Second, don't worry about building yourself any sort of wastegate until
you've gotten yourself a real boost gauge. It's real easy to get yourself in
trouble by turning up the boost too much, or if you incorrectly build and
install a manual boost controller.

-Jason

>From: "mike p." <ob1poor@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost con
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:20:45 -0000
>
>yeah, legacy central really helped out alot. i did the vacuum bypass
>and got my generic(eek, for now anywho) boost guage in, but now i'm
>seeing my boost is at 10-11 psi and this is still stock. i think i
>have a wastgate problem. anyone know how much a new wastegate runs?
>i don't actually have a HBC, i'm trying to figure out a way to just
>get the parts and build one myself. i've read about the grignard
>(sp.?) valve and am tying to find a cheaper valve that would do the
>trick without going the aquarium route. any suggestions?
>
>
>--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., FREDERICK.WHITMORE@C... wrote:
> > Legacy Central is definitely the place to go! I went there myself
>b4 I
> > installed the HBC on my car. It's pretty easy you take off those
>hoses and
> > use the hoses that are on your new BC and you can plug the nipples
>on the old
> > stock solenoid. I've had mine for about 4 mths and I find the HBC
>works
> > pretty well!!! But boost will still fluctuate depending on the
>weather. I
> > have it set at about 11-12psi but when it gets real hot it doesn't
>go past
> > 10psi. I'm just waiting for winter to see how much my max boost
>will be then.
> > The HBC allows you to increase your HP and the turbo spools up
>faster. You
> > will definitely feel the difference in the way the car drives.
> >
> > Fred
> > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------
> > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 196:31 -0000
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > From: Dave.C[legacycentral]@yahoo.com
> > Sender: sentto-2208544-4398-@gcs.alias
> > Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost control solenoid...
> >
> > Mike, go to Legacy Central, into the Library, and read Matt's HBC
> > guide. It has a full set of instructions, with pictures, on how
>this
> > setup works.
> >
> > If you have any questions, you can more easily refer back to that
> > document about them.
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p." <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> > > i was reading the hallman boost controller installation
> > instructions
> > > for a single turbo car and it says that:
> > >
> > > "most of the late model turbo cars have a boost control solenoid
> > > that the ECU can control to raise or lower boost depending on if
>it
> > > sees knock or not. If you encounter this i would recommend
>removing
> > > the lines that go to and from it...."
> > >
> > > now while i was out playing around under my hood i traced a couple
> > > lines from my turbo and they ran to what seemed like the said
> > > solenoid. my question is, has anyone removed the lines from
> > theirs?
> > > what do yo do with the lines once removed? reconnect them
>together?
> > > (would that be the spot to hook up the controller, in place of
> > where
> > > the solenoid was) is this really that beneficial? it says that
> > > doing this will result in "rock steady boost with this particular
> > > controller".
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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Posted: **Mon Sep 10, 2001 11:38 pm**

yeah, i thought that it might be reading incorrectly and i would like
to shoot for a VDO but i was hoping that for now i could use a
pressure guage to do the job but it looks very unlikely. at least
now i know how to hook everything up. guess i'll just have to get my
VDO huh.. darn

oh and one last note that might point to the
failure of my guage itself, it seems that i actually have to be
driving for it to register any reading at all. would this be normal
with a vdo? (if i sit with the transmission in neutral and rev to
4000 should it read any pressure?)

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...> wrote:
> Mike-
>
> I STRONGLY advice you to go out and purchase a REAL boost gauge.
something
> by autometer, VDO, Greddy, Blitz, or APEXi will do. If you don't
have a real
> boost gauge, you may not be accurately measuring the psi or Bar
that you
> have.
>
> Second, don't worry about building yourself any sort of wastegate
until
> you've gotten yourself a real boost gauge. It's real easy to get
yourself in
> trouble by turning up the boost too much, or if you incorrectly
build and
> install a manual boost controller.
>
> -Jason
>
>
> >From: "mike p." <ob1poor@y...>
> >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> >To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> >Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost con
> >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:20:45 -0000
> >
> >yeah, legacy central really helped out alot. i did the vacuum
bypass
> >and got my generic(eek, for now anywho) boost guage in, but now i'm
> >seeing my boost is at 10-11 psi and this is still stock. i think i
> >have a wastgate problem. anyone know how much a new wastegate
runs?
> >i don't actually have a HBC, i'm trying to figure out a way to just
> >get the parts and build one myself. i've read about the grignard
> >(sp.?) valve and am tying to find a cheaper valve that would do the
> >trick without going the aquarium route. any suggestions?
> >
> >
> >--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., FREDERICK.WHITMORE@C... wrote:
> > > Legacy Central is definitely the place to go! I went there
myself
> >b4 I
> > > installed the HBC on my car. It's pretty easy you take off
those
> >hoses and
> > > use the hoses that are on your new BC and you can plug the
nipples
> >on the old
> > > stock solenoid. I've had mine for about 4 mths and I find the
HBC
> >works
> > > pretty well!!! But boost will still fluctuate depending on the
> >weather. I
> > > have it set at about 11-12psi but when it gets real hot it
doesn't
> >go past
> > > 10psi. I'm just waiting for winter to see how much my max boost
> >will be then.
> > > The HBC allows you to increase your HP and the turbo spools up
> >faster. You
> > > will definitely feel the difference in the way the car drives.
> > >
> > > Fred
> > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )----------------
----
> > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 196:31 -0000
> > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > From: Dave.C[legacycentral]@yahoo.com
> > > Sender: sentto-2208544-4398-@gcs.alias
> > > Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost control solenoid...
> > >
> > > Mike, go to Legacy Central, into the Library, and read Matt's
HBC
> > > guide. It has a full set of instructions, with pictures, on how
> >this
> > > setup works.
> > >
> > > If you have any questions, you can more easily refer back to
that
> > > document about them.
> > >
> > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p." <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> > > > i was reading the hallman boost controller installation
> > > instructions
> > > > for a single turbo car and it says that:
> > > >
> > > > "most of the late model turbo cars have a boost control
solenoid
> > > > that the ECU can control to raise or lower boost depending on
if
> >it
> > > > sees knock or not. If you encounter this i would recommend
> >removing
> > > > the lines that go to and from it...."
> > > >
> > > > now while i was out playing around under my hood i traced a
couple
> > > > lines from my turbo and they ran to what seemed like the said
> > > > solenoid. my question is, has anyone removed the lines from
> > > theirs?
> > > > what do yo do with the lines once removed? reconnect them
> >together?
> > > > (would that be the spot to hook up the controller, in place of
> > > where
> > > > the solenoid was) is this really that beneficial? it says
that
> > > > doing this will result in "rock steady boost with this
particular
> > > > controller".
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Posted: **Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:17 am**

If you sit with the transmission in neutral and rev it to 400, it should
bring it from vacuum to 0 psi.

>From: "mike p." <ob1poor@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost con
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 03:16:40 -0000
>
>yeah, i thought that it might be reading incorrectly and i would like
>to shoot for a VDO but i was hoping that for now i could use a
>pressure guage to do the job but it looks very unlikely. at least
>now i know how to hook everything up. guess i'll just have to get my
>VDO huh.. darn

oh and one last note that might point to the
>failure of my guage itself, it seems that i actually have to be
>driving for it to register any reading at all. would this be normal
>with a vdo? (if i sit with the transmission in neutral and rev to
>4000 should it read any pressure?)
>
>
>--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...> wrote:
> > Mike-
> >
> > I STRONGLY advice you to go out and purchase a REAL boost gauge.
>something
> > by autometer, VDO, Greddy, Blitz, or APEXi will do. If you don't
>have a real
> > boost gauge, you may not be accurately measuring the psi or Bar
>that you
> > have.
> >
> > Second, don't worry about building yourself any sort of wastegate
>until
> > you've gotten yourself a real boost gauge. It's real easy to get
>yourself in
> > trouble by turning up the boost too much, or if you incorrectly
>build and
> > install a manual boost controller.
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> >
> > >From: "mike p." <ob1poor@y...>
> > >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > >To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > >Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost con
> > >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:20:45 -0000
> > >
> > >yeah, legacy central really helped out alot. i did the vacuum
>bypass
> > >and got my generic(eek, for now anywho) boost guage in, but now i'm
> > >seeing my boost is at 10-11 psi and this is still stock. i think i
> > >have a wastgate problem. anyone know how much a new wastegate
>runs?
> > >i don't actually have a HBC, i'm trying to figure out a way to just
> > >get the parts and build one myself. i've read about the grignard
> > >(sp.?) valve and am tying to find a cheaper valve that would do the
> > >trick without going the aquarium route. any suggestions?
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., FREDERICK.WHITMORE@C... wrote:
> > > > Legacy Central is definitely the place to go! I went there
>myself
> > >b4 I
> > > > installed the HBC on my car. It's pretty easy you take off
>those
> > >hoses and
> > > > use the hoses that are on your new BC and you can plug the
>nipples
> > >on the old
> > > > stock solenoid. I've had mine for about 4 mths and I find the
>HBC
> > >works
> > > > pretty well!!! But boost will still fluctuate depending on the
> > >weather. I
> > > > have it set at about 11-12psi but when it gets real hot it
>doesn't
> > >go past
> > > > 10psi. I'm just waiting for winter to see how much my max boost
> > >will be then.
> > > > The HBC allows you to increase your HP and the turbo spools up
> > >faster. You
> > > > will definitely feel the difference in the way the car drives.
> > > >
> > > > Fred
> > > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )----------------
>----
> > > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 196:31 -0000
> > > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > From: Dave.C[legacycentral]@yahoo.com
> > > > Sender: sentto-2208544-4398-@gcs.alias
> > > > Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost control solenoid...
> > > >
> > > > Mike, go to Legacy Central, into the Library, and read Matt's
>HBC
> > > > guide. It has a full set of instructions, with pictures, on how
> > >this
> > > > setup works.
> > > >
> > > > If you have any questions, you can more easily refer back to
>that
> > > > document about them.
> > > >
> > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p." <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> > > > > i was reading the hallman boost controller installation
> > > > instructions
> > > > > for a single turbo car and it says that:
> > > > >
> > > > > "most of the late model turbo cars have a boost control
>solenoid
> > > > > that the ECU can control to raise or lower boost depending on
>if
> > >it
> > > > > sees knock or not. If you encounter this i would recommend
> > >removing
> > > > > the lines that go to and from it...."
> > > > >
> > > > > now while i was out playing around under my hood i traced a
>couple
> > > > > lines from my turbo and they ran to what seemed like the said
> > > > > solenoid. my question is, has anyone removed the lines from
> > > > theirs?
> > > > > what do yo do with the lines once removed? reconnect them
> > >together?
> > > > > (would that be the spot to hook up the controller, in place of
> > > > where
> > > > > the solenoid was) is this really that beneficial? it says
>that
> > > > > doing this will result in "rock steady boost with this
>particular
> > > > > controller".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Posted: **Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:00 am**

so that's normal for it to read 0 then huh? ok, how bout the 11psi.
at stock? could that be so high from the vacuum bypass i did? i'm
going to take the bypass out and see what reading i get. the only
real problem i have with the guage is that it vibrates alot. i think
thats from having it tapped into the air bypass valve hose though. i
can't get the hose off of my fuel pressure sensor to tap into it and
don't really want to snap the metal piping from it...

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...> wrote:
> If you sit with the transmission in neutral and rev it to 400, it
should
> bring it from vacuum to 0 psi.
>
>
> >From: "mike p." <ob1poor@y...>
> >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> >To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> >Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost con
> >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 03:16:40 -0000
> >
> >yeah, i thought that it might be reading incorrectly and i would
like
> >to shoot for a VDO but i was hoping that for now i could use a
> >pressure guage to do the job but it looks very unlikely. at least
> >now i know how to hook everything up. guess i'll just have to get
my
> >VDO huh.. darn

oh and one last note that might point to the
> >failure of my guage itself, it seems that i actually have to be
> >driving for it to register any reading at all. would this be
normal
> >with a vdo? (if i sit with the transmission in neutral and rev to
> >4000 should it read any pressure?)
> >
> >
> >--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...> wrote:
> > > Mike-
> > >
> > > I STRONGLY advice you to go out and purchase a REAL boost gauge.
> >something
> > > by autometer, VDO, Greddy, Blitz, or APEXi will do. If you don't
> >have a real
> > > boost gauge, you may not be accurately measuring the psi or Bar
> >that you
> > > have.
> > >
> > > Second, don't worry about building yourself any sort of
wastegate
> >until
> > > you've gotten yourself a real boost gauge. It's real easy to get
> >yourself in
> > > trouble by turning up the boost too much, or if you incorrectly
> >build and
> > > install a manual boost controller.
> > >
> > > -Jason
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "mike p." <ob1poor@y...>
> > > >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > >To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > >Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost con
> > > >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:20:45 -0000
> > > >
> > > >yeah, legacy central really helped out alot. i did the vacuum
> >bypass
> > > >and got my generic(eek, for now anywho) boost guage in, but
now i'm
> > > >seeing my boost is at 10-11 psi and this is still stock. i
think i
> > > >have a wastgate problem. anyone know how much a new wastegate
> >runs?
> > > >i don't actually have a HBC, i'm trying to figure out a way to
just
> > > >get the parts and build one myself. i've read about the
grignard
> > > >(sp.?) valve and am tying to find a cheaper valve that would
do the
> > > >trick without going the aquarium route. any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., FREDERICK.WHITMORE@C... wrote:
> > > > > Legacy Central is definitely the place to go! I went there
> >myself
> > > >b4 I
> > > > > installed the HBC on my car. It's pretty easy you take off
> >those
> > > >hoses and
> > > > > use the hoses that are on your new BC and you can plug the
> >nipples
> > > >on the old
> > > > > stock solenoid. I've had mine for about 4 mths and I find
the
> >HBC
> > > >works
> > > > > pretty well!!! But boost will still fluctuate depending on
the
> > > >weather. I
> > > > > have it set at about 11-12psi but when it gets real hot it
> >doesn't
> > > >go past
> > > > > 10psi. I'm just waiting for winter to see how much my max
boost
> > > >will be then.
> > > > > The HBC allows you to increase your HP and the turbo spools
up
> > > >faster. You
> > > > > will definitely feel the difference in the way the car
drives.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fred
> > > > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )------------
----
> >----
> > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 196:31 -0000
> > > > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > From: Dave.C[legacycentral]@yahoo.com
> > > > > Sender: sentto-2208544-4398-@gcs.alias
> > > > > Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost control solenoid...
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike, go to Legacy Central, into the Library, and read
Matt's
> >HBC
> > > > > guide. It has a full set of instructions, with pictures,
on how
> > > >this
> > > > > setup works.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have any questions, you can more easily refer back to
> >that
> > > > > document about them.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p." <ob1poor@y...>
wrote:
> > > > > > i was reading the hallman boost controller installation
> > > > > instructions
> > > > > > for a single turbo car and it says that:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "most of the late model turbo cars have a boost control
> >solenoid
> > > > > > that the ECU can control to raise or lower boost
depending on
> >if
> > > >it
> > > > > > sees knock or not. If you encounter this i would recommend
> > > >removing
> > > > > > the lines that go to and from it...."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > now while i was out playing around under my hood i traced
a
> >couple
> > > > > > lines from my turbo and they ran to what seemed like the
said
> > > > > > solenoid. my question is, has anyone removed the lines
from
> > > > > theirs?
> > > > > > what do yo do with the lines once removed? reconnect them
> > > >together?
> > > > > > (would that be the spot to hook up the controller, in
place of
> > > > > where
> > > > > > the solenoid was) is this really that beneficial? it
says
> >that
> > > > > > doing this will result in "rock steady boost with this
> >particular
> > > > > > controller".
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Posted: **Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:22 pm**

ok, i just got back from a little rid up town and back after undoing
the air bypass and putting it back to stock. now the psi is back to
8 at 4000 rpm which is pretty close to stock, correct? i still have
the problem with the needle vibrating under hard acceleration(i
didn't expect it to go away or anything) and am going to look for a
better hose to run off of. any suggestions of a "stable" vacuum
source besides the fuel pressure sensor?

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p." <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> so that's normal for it to read 0 then huh? ok, how bout the
11psi.
> at stock? could that be so high from the vacuum bypass i did? i'm
> going to take the bypass out and see what reading i get. the only
> real problem i have with the guage is that it vibrates alot. i
think
> thats from having it tapped into the air bypass valve hose though.
i
> can't get the hose off of my fuel pressure sensor to tap into it
and
> don't really want to snap the metal piping from it...
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...> wrote:
> > If you sit with the transmission in neutral and rev it to 400, it
> should
> > bring it from vacuum to 0 psi.
> >
> >
> > >From: "mike p." <ob1poor@y...>
> > >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > >To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > >Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost con
> > >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 03:16:40 -0000
> > >
> > >yeah, i thought that it might be reading incorrectly and i would
> like
> > >to shoot for a VDO but i was hoping that for now i could use a
> > >pressure guage to do the job but it looks very unlikely. at
least
> > >now i know how to hook everything up. guess i'll just have to
get
> my
> > >VDO huh.. darn

oh and one last note that might point to the
> > >failure of my guage itself, it seems that i actually have to be
> > >driving for it to register any reading at all. would this be
> normal
> > >with a vdo? (if i sit with the transmission in neutral and rev to
> > >4000 should it read any pressure?)
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...>
wrote:
> > > > Mike-
> > > >
> > > > I STRONGLY advice you to go out and purchase a REAL boost
gauge.
> > >something
> > > > by autometer, VDO, Greddy, Blitz, or APEXi will do. If you
don't
> > >have a real
> > > > boost gauge, you may not be accurately measuring the psi or
Bar
> > >that you
> > > > have.
> > > >
> > > > Second, don't worry about building yourself any sort of
> wastegate
> > >until
> > > > you've gotten yourself a real boost gauge. It's real easy to
get
> > >yourself in
> > > > trouble by turning up the boost too much, or if you
incorrectly
> > >build and
> > > > install a manual boost controller.
> > > >
> > > > -Jason
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "mike p." <ob1poor@y...>
> > > > >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > >To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > >Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost con
> > > > >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:20:45 -0000
> > > > >
> > > > >yeah, legacy central really helped out alot. i did the
vacuum
> > >bypass
> > > > >and got my generic(eek, for now anywho) boost guage in, but
> now i'm
> > > > >seeing my boost is at 10-11 psi and this is still stock. i
> think i
> > > > >have a wastgate problem. anyone know how much a new
wastegate
> > >runs?
> > > > >i don't actually have a HBC, i'm trying to figure out a way
to
> just
> > > > >get the parts and build one myself. i've read about the
> grignard
> > > > >(sp.?) valve and am tying to find a cheaper valve that would
> do the
> > > > >trick without going the aquarium route. any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., FREDERICK.WHITMORE@C... wrote:
> > > > > > Legacy Central is definitely the place to go! I went
there
> > >myself
> > > > >b4 I
> > > > > > installed the HBC on my car. It's pretty easy you take
off
> > >those
> > > > >hoses and
> > > > > > use the hoses that are on your new BC and you can plug the
> > >nipples
> > > > >on the old
> > > > > > stock solenoid. I've had mine for about 4 mths and I
find
> the
> > >HBC
> > > > >works
> > > > > > pretty well!!! But boost will still fluctuate depending
on
> the
> > > > >weather. I
> > > > > > have it set at about 11-12psi but when it gets real hot it
> > >doesn't
> > > > >go past
> > > > > > 10psi. I'm just waiting for winter to see how much my max
> boost
> > > > >will be then.
> > > > > > The HBC allows you to increase your HP and the turbo
spools
> up
> > > > >faster. You
> > > > > > will definitely feel the difference in the way the car
> drives.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fred
> > > > > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )----------
--
> ----
> > >----
> > > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 196:31 -0000
> > > > > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > > From: Dave.C[legacycentral]@yahoo.com
> > > > > > Sender: sentto-2208544-4398-@gcs.alias
> > > > > > Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost control solenoid...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike, go to Legacy Central, into the Library, and read
> Matt's
> > >HBC
> > > > > > guide. It has a full set of instructions, with pictures,
> on how
> > > > >this
> > > > > > setup works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you have any questions, you can more easily refer back
to
> > >that
> > > > > > document about them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p." <ob1poor@y...>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > i was reading the hallman boost controller installation
> > > > > > instructions
> > > > > > > for a single turbo car and it says that:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "most of the late model turbo cars have a boost control
> > >solenoid
> > > > > > > that the ECU can control to raise or lower boost
> depending on
> > >if
> > > > >it
> > > > > > > sees knock or not. If you encounter this i would
recommend
> > > > >removing
> > > > > > > the lines that go to and from it...."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > now while i was out playing around under my hood i
traced
> a
> > >couple
> > > > > > > lines from my turbo and they ran to what seemed like
the
> said
> > > > > > > solenoid. my question is, has anyone removed the lines
> from
> > > > > > theirs?
> > > > > > > what do yo do with the lines once removed? reconnect
them
> > > > >together?
> > > > > > > (would that be the spot to hook up the controller, in
> place of
> > > > > > where
> > > > > > > the solenoid was) is this really that beneficial? it
> says
> > >that
> > > > > > > doing this will result in "rock steady boost with this
> > >particular
> > > > > > > controller".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Posted: **Wed Sep 12, 2001 9:27 pm**

ok, little update(if anyone care:) i have tapped my guage into the
fuel pressure solenoid vacuum line(took a little coaxing, but i got
it) and got a pretty steady(alot better than the last) reading of 7-
8psi. then i did the vacuum bypass(see legacy-central for the low
down on that) and took a run and have been getting 11-12psi. around
4psi increase just off of the bypass!!! oh, i did it twice to make
sure and sure nuff.... is 12psi too high for a stock, non-
intercooled turbo? the cutout is somewhere around 14 correct? if so
i figure i'll be fine till i try to make/buy an intercooler. i'm
open too any and all comments, questions, and/or suggestions...

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p." <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> ok, i just got back from a little rid up town and back after
undoing
> the air bypass and putting it back to stock. now the psi is back
to
> 8 at 4000 rpm which is pretty close to stock, correct? i still
have
> the problem with the needle vibrating under hard acceleration(i
> didn't expect it to go away or anything) and am going to look for a
> better hose to run off of. any suggestions of a "stable" vacuum
> source besides the fuel pressure sensor?
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p." <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> > so that's normal for it to read 0 then huh? ok, how bout the
> 11psi.
> > at stock? could that be so high from the vacuum bypass i did?
i'm
> > going to take the bypass out and see what reading i get. the
only
> > real problem i have with the guage is that it vibrates alot. i
> think
> > thats from having it tapped into the air bypass valve hose
though.
> i
> > can't get the hose off of my fuel pressure sensor to tap into it
> and
> > don't really want to snap the metal piping from it...
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...>
wrote:
> > > If you sit with the transmission in neutral and rev it to 400,
it
> > should
> > > bring it from vacuum to 0 psi.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "mike p." <ob1poor@y...>
> > > >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > >To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > >Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost con
> > > >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 03:16:40 -0000
> > > >
> > > >yeah, i thought that it might be reading incorrectly and i
would
> > like
> > > >to shoot for a VDO but i was hoping that for now i could use a
> > > >pressure guage to do the job but it looks very unlikely. at
> least
> > > >now i know how to hook everything up. guess i'll just have to
> get
> > my
> > > >VDO huh.. darn

oh and one last note that might point to the
> > > >failure of my guage itself, it seems that i actually have to
be
> > > >driving for it to register any reading at all. would this be
> > normal
> > > >with a vdo? (if i sit with the transmission in neutral and rev
to
> > > >4000 should it read any pressure?)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...>
> wrote:
> > > > > Mike-
> > > > >
> > > > > I STRONGLY advice you to go out and purchase a REAL boost
> gauge.
> > > >something
> > > > > by autometer, VDO, Greddy, Blitz, or APEXi will do. If you
> don't
> > > >have a real
> > > > > boost gauge, you may not be accurately measuring the psi or
> Bar
> > > >that you
> > > > > have.
> > > > >
> > > > > Second, don't worry about building yourself any sort of
> > wastegate
> > > >until
> > > > > you've gotten yourself a real boost gauge. It's real easy
to
> get
> > > >yourself in
> > > > > trouble by turning up the boost too much, or if you
> incorrectly
> > > >build and
> > > > > install a manual boost controller.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Jason
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "mike p." <ob1poor@y...>
> > > > > >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > >To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > >Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost con
> > > > > >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:20:45 -0000
> > > > > >
> > > > > >yeah, legacy central really helped out alot. i did the
> vacuum
> > > >bypass
> > > > > >and got my generic(eek, for now anywho) boost guage in,
but
> > now i'm
> > > > > >seeing my boost is at 10-11 psi and this is still stock.
i
> > think i
> > > > > >have a wastgate problem. anyone know how much a new
> wastegate
> > > >runs?
> > > > > >i don't actually have a HBC, i'm trying to figure out a
way
> to
> > just
> > > > > >get the parts and build one myself. i've read about the
> > grignard
> > > > > >(sp.?) valve and am tying to find a cheaper valve that
would
> > do the
> > > > > >trick without going the aquarium route. any suggestions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., FREDERICK.WHITMORE@C...
wrote:
> > > > > > > Legacy Central is definitely the place to go! I went
> there
> > > >myself
> > > > > >b4 I
> > > > > > > installed the HBC on my car. It's pretty easy you take
> off
> > > >those
> > > > > >hoses and
> > > > > > > use the hoses that are on your new BC and you can plug
the
> > > >nipples
> > > > > >on the old
> > > > > > > stock solenoid. I've had mine for about 4 mths and I
> find
> > the
> > > >HBC
> > > > > >works
> > > > > > > pretty well!!! But boost will still fluctuate
depending
> on
> > the
> > > > > >weather. I
> > > > > > > have it set at about 11-12psi but when it gets real hot
it
> > > >doesn't
> > > > > >go past
> > > > > > > 10psi. I'm just waiting for winter to see how much my
max
> > boost
> > > > > >will be then.
> > > > > > > The HBC allows you to increase your HP and the turbo
> spools
> > up
> > > > > >faster. You
> > > > > > > will definitely feel the difference in the way the car
> > drives.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fred
> > > > > > > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------
--
> --
> > ----
> > > >----
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 196:31 -0000
> > > > > > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > > > From: Dave.C[legacycentral]@yahoo.com
> > > > > > > Sender: sentto-2208544-4398-@gcs.alias
> > > > > > > Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > > > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: boost control
solenoid...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike, go to Legacy Central, into the Library, and read
> > Matt's
> > > >HBC
> > > > > > > guide. It has a full set of instructions, with
pictures,
> > on how
> > > > > >this
> > > > > > > setup works.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you have any questions, you can more easily refer
back
> to
> > > >that
> > > > > > > document about them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p." <ob1poor@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > i was reading the hallman boost controller
installation
> > > > > > > instructions
> > > > > > > > for a single turbo car and it says that:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "most of the late model turbo cars have a boost
control
> > > >solenoid
> > > > > > > > that the ECU can control to raise or lower boost
> > depending on
> > > >if
> > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > sees knock or not. If you encounter this i would
> recommend
> > > > > >removing
> > > > > > > > the lines that go to and from it...."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > now while i was out playing around under my hood i
> traced
> > a
> > > >couple
> > > > > > > > lines from my turbo and they ran to what seemed like
> the
> > said
> > > > > > > > solenoid. my question is, has anyone removed the
lines
> > from
> > > > > > > theirs?
> > > > > > > > what do yo do with the lines once removed? reconnect
> them
> > > > > >together?
> > > > > > > > (would that be the spot to hook up the controller, in
> > place of
> > > > > > > where
> > > > > > > > the solenoid was) is this really that beneficial?
it
> > says
> > > >that
> > > > > > > > doing this will result in "rock steady boost with this
> > > >particular
> > > > > > > > controller".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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