Guess you got me beat
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Josh Colombo
jcc189@psu.edu < mailto:
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"Life, an ever-changing melody
of beats and rhythm" - ME
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-----Original Message-----
From:
acroxford@hypermall.net [ mailto:
acroxford@hypermall.net]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 4:33 PM
To:
BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: lightened flywheel???
Good batteries I have a new red top in the car and one in the truck
that was purchased from Gates as a second (blemished) and it is doing
ok after 11 years.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Josh Colombo" <jcc189@p...> wrote:
> Yeah I have noticed the A/C thing. It's mainly when I just start
out
> that I have problems with it not getting cold right away....but I
think
> that's mainly because my A/C system sucks. The charging thing has
not
> been a problem and I DO have a big stereo system. One thing that
has
> probably helped me was that I have one of the optima deep cycle
> batteries (yellow top)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: acroxford@h...
> Sent: Fri 10/26/2001 1:14 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Cc:
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: lightened flywheel???
>
>
>
> I have a k&N mounted under the left fender I measured ths
under
> hood
> temps in traffic and the engine compartment was 177 F and
under
> the
> fender was 97 F I was told that 8 degrees into the turbo is 8
hp
> ??
> You can see part of it in the files section under "oil
> separator" .
> The filter is mounted low behind a front vent where the
driving
> lights
> used to be. I checked it at 5k miles and it did not seem to be
> any
> dirtier than when mounted in the engine compartment. The
smaller
> underdrive pulley will save a few hp but can cause poor AC in
> hot
> weather and some charging problems if you have a heavy load
like
> a
> big Stereo.
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p." <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> > yup, that's what i think i'm going to shoot for as far as an
> air
> > filter goes, then maybe add some ducting to either bring air
> in from
> > the front of the car(kinda sits to low for me though, i like
> mud:)
> or
> > i was thinking about an idea of cutting a hole in the side
of
> the
> > fender and mounting a reverse air ram kinda deal to suck
> cooler
> > outside air into the fender well to get it to the box.
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Rod Grosvenor" <roderic@c...>
> wrote:
> > > Mike-try a K&N filter in your stock air box (if you
have`nt
> > already.) I have that set-up with an aftermarket turbo & the
> car
> runs
> > flawlessly. Be careful with a cone filter unless you`re
> drawing COLD
> > AIR from somewhere. If not, your engine will be using the
> underhood
> > (hot!) air--not good. Needless to say, my MAF has 164k &
never
> has
> > had a problem. Hope this helps---ROD (AZ.)
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: mike p.
> > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 7:10 PM
> > > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: lightened flywheel???
> > >
> > >
> > > hmmm... yeah i removed the snorkel but still have mixed
> feelings
> > > about taking out the stock box and replacing with a cone
> or
> > something
> > > because my maf is already screwed and i'm afraid it'd
just
> make
> > > things worse(i already have some pretty good ideas for a
> custom
> > > intake). i think i might consider a lighter pulley
though
> before
> > i
> > > go and spend a wad on a lighter torque converter. but
> first i
> > really
> > > should concentrate on a new maf i guess.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Josh Colombo"
<jcc189@p...>
> wrote:
> > > > Well, I really can't give you an exact scientific
number
> as to
> > how
> > > much
> > > > faster it revs. I did notice a difference though. I
> think
> > that and
> > > > putting my intake on were the two things that helped
> make for
> > faster
> > > > revs to redline and such. If you don't want an
intake,
> you
> can
> > do
> > > the
> > > > snorkelesectamy or whatever that's called, and take
the
> snorkel
> > out
> > > of
> > > > the fenderwell, and put a k&n drop in filter in.
> > > >
> > > > The weight is what helps the most. The lighter the
> crankshaft
> > is,
> > > ie
> > > > less rotation mass, the faster it will respond to
> change. If
> > you
> > > want
> > > > to get technical you can prove this with Newton's
second
> law
> > > F=ma. F =
> > > > the force required to turn the shaft, think of this as
> the
> > force
> > > (power)
> > > > produced by the pistons. a is the acceleration of the
> shaft.
> > So
> > > if we
> > > > want to accelerate the crank (ie: rev the engine), and
> we have
> > X
> > > amount
> > > > of force being produced from the pistons. Mass, m, is
> inversely
> > > > proportional to the acceleration. If you want faster
> revs,
> ie.
> > > > acceleration, then you have to reduce the mass.
> > > >
> > > > This is just the basic physics of why it does what it
> does,
> and
> > > gets a
> > > > lot more harry after this, but this gives you the idea
> behind
> > why it
> > > > does what it does.
> > > >
> > > > This ends our physics lesson for today.....
> > > >
> > > > Josh
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: mike p.
> > > > Sent: Thu 10/25/2001 10:56 AM
> > > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > Cc:
> > > > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: lightened flywheel???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > josh, a little off topic here but how much
faster
> are
> the
> > revs
> > > > with
> > > > just the underdrive pulley? that'd probably fit
> better
> > in my
> > > > budget
> > > > now than trying to get a lightened torque
> converter for
> > my
> > > soob.
> > > > and
> > > > one other thing, is it the weight(of the
> underdrive
> > pulley) or
> > > > the
> > > > smaller size(it is smaller right?) that gives
the
> quicker
> > > revs?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Josh Colombo"
> <jcc189@p...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I'm assuming they are grinding away on the
> flywheel to
> > make
> > > it
> > > > lighter
> > > > > correct. How are they doing this? Are they
> taking
> away
> > > > material
> > > > from
> > > > > the middle, the contact surface area, back
side
> ?
> I've
> > > heard
> > > > that
> > > > > resurfacing the subaru flywheels is not a good
> idea as
> > it
> > > will
> > > > cause the
> > > > > clutch to grab poorly and cause premature wear
> and
> tear.
> > > > >
> > > > > Josh
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: georgerbyrne@y...
> > > > > Sent: Thu 10/25/2001 8:50 AM
> > > > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > Cc:
> > > > > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re:
lightened
> > flywheel???
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am getting my flywheel lightened ATM,
> while
> > converting
> > > > my FWD
> > > > to
> > > > > AWD.
> > > > > I am putting in a 4:44 ratio box with
> ej20-t
> > clutch
> > > and
> > > > > flywheel, and
> > > > > a Viscous LSD rear. Should be good for
> when i
> > drop n
> > > the
> > > > new
> > > > RS
> > > > > RA
> > > > > ej20-t in january. hehehe
> > > > >
> > > > > I was talking to my mechanic today who
> does alot
> > of
> > > > sooby
> > > > > performance
> > > > > mods, and he said if you machine the
> standard
> > subaru
> > > > flywheels,
> > > > > to
> > > > > take off 1.5mm, that will give you the
> best,
> safe
> > > > result,
> > > > > without
> > > > > risking damaging parts, and definately
> help
> bring
> > up
> > > the
> > > > rev's
> > > > > faster. Anything less than that and it
> won't
> make
> > a
> > > big
> > > > enough
> > > > > difference, and any more and you can
hurt
> stuff.
> > > (didn't
> > > > specify
> > > > > what
> > > > > though.)
> > > > > My Legacy/liberty currently has an NA -
> EJ22
> with
> > a
> > > > coupla
> > > > mods,
> > > > > good
> > > > > for about 165-170hp, so hoping it will
do
> OK
> with
> > the
> > > > flywheel
> > > > > and
> > > > > driveline mods, as well as a couple of
> dodgy
> > backyard
> > > > computer
> > > > > alterations, to add about another 15hp.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "mike p."
> > <ob1poor@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > thanks, that's cool they actually have
> them
> for
> > > subys.
> > > > now
> > > > if
> > > > > i
> > > > > > could only find their email addy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Rod
> Grosvenor"
> > > > <roderic@c...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Mike-try this web site for more
info-
> > >
www.jmousa.com.
> > > > or
> > > > try
> > > > > jmo
> > > > > > world site. Either one should be able
to
> help.
> > BTW,
> > > > auto
> > > > > trannys
> > > > > have
> > > > > > a FLEX PLATE rather than a flywheel.
The
> torque
> > > > convertor
> > > > > bolts to
> > > > > > that instead of a conventional
flywheel,
> though
> > they
> > > > both
> > > > > perform
> > > > > the
> > > > > > same function. There IS something you
> can do
> to
> > > > improve
> > > > > > performance/reliability in regards to
> the flex
> > > plate,
> > > > but
> > > > > without
> > > > > an
> > > > > > upgraded convertor, it`s not a very
good
> use
> of
> > your
> > > > money.
> > > > > The
> > > > > only
> > > > > > way I`d replace my flex plate without
> replacing
> > the
> > > > convertor
> > > > > is if
> > > > > > it were out of balance, teeth on the
> starter
> > ring
> > > were
> > > > chipped
> > > > > or
> > > > > > missing or it was damaged. Hope this
> helps---ROD
> > > > (AZ.)-----
> > > > > Original
> > > > > > Message -----
> > > > > > > From: mike p.
> > > > > > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001
87
> PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re:
> lightened
> > > > flywheel???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so essentially i'd be looking for
a
> > lightened
> > > > torque
> > > > > converter
> > > > > > for my
> > > > > > > scooby eh? well, ok. i think i
> can live
> > with
> > > > that,
> > > > just
> > > > > have
> > > > > > to do
> > > > > > > some more searchin'. i'm not
really
> > worried
> > > about
> > > > gaining
> > > > > any
> > > > > hp
> > > > > > off
> > > > > > > the deal just quicker revs, but
the
> hp
> > wouldn't
> > > > hurt
> > > > > either:)
> > > > > > > meanwhile if anyone digs anything
up
> and
> > thinks
> > > > about it
> > > > > i'd
> > > > > like
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > know. thanks guys.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...,
> acroxford@h...
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > The auto's use the torque
> converters
> > housing
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > flywheel
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > been light weight torque
> converters made
> > but I
> > > > don't
> > > > > know if
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > made for a Suby. I have a
chromoly
> 12lb
> > > flywheel
> > > > and
> > > > the
> > > > > engine
> > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > rev quite a bit faster and I
would
> > imagine
> > > that
> > > > the hp
> > > > > used
> > > > > to
> > > > > > turn
> > > > > > > > the 26lb stock flywheel is mine
> now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...,
> "mike p."
> > > > <ob1poor@y...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > yeah ya know what? i
> honestly(no
> > seriously)
> > > > didn't
> > > > > think
> > > > > > auto's
> > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > a flywheel then i got to
> thinking
> > (that's
> > > what
> > > > threw
> > > > > me) and
> > > > > i
> > > > > > > > > remember this guy i used to
hang
> out
> > with
> > > said
> > > > he
> > > > had
> > > > > to
> > > > > have
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > flywheel put in his
bronco(also
> an
> auto)
> > > > because he
> > > > > broke
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > teeth
> > > > > > > > > on it or something so i
checked
> my
> > haynes
> > > > manual(yup
> > > > > misled
> > > > > > > again)
> > > > > > > > > and from what i understood
from
> it the
> > autos
> > > > along
> > > > > with the
> > > > > > > manuals
> > > > > > > > > had a flywheel.... da%#!!! i
> was all
> > happy
> > > > thinking
> > > > > i was
> > > > > > going
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > get some quicker revs....
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...,
> "jason
> > grahn"
> > > > > <jgrahn555@h...>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > If you did have a manual,
> you'd be
> > able to
> > > > get a
> > > > > lightened
> > > > > > > > flywheel
> > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > Primitive Enterprises (
> > > > >
http://www.get-primitive.com) or
> > > > > > > Fidanza; i
> > > > > > > > > think Jun
> > > > > > > > > > makes one as well.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -Jason
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >From: "Josh Colombo"
> <jcc189@p...>
> > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To:
> BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > > > > > > >To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...>
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE:
> [BC-BFLegacyWorks]
> > lightened
> > > > > flywheel???
> > > > > > > > > > >Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001
> 20:24:47
> -0500
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >By sayin auto slush box I'm
> assumin
> > you
> > > > have an
> > > > > automatic
> > > > > > > tranny.
> > > > > > > > > > >Auto's do not have
flywheels.
> They
> > use
> > > the
> > > > torque
> > > > > > converter
> > > > > > > as a
> > > > > > > > > > >rotational damper which
gives
> and
> > takes
> > > the
> > > > > intermittent
> > > > > > > energy
> > > > > > > > > pulses
> > > > > > > > > > >from the engine and
smoothes
> it
> > > > out...basically
> > > > > does the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > > thing as
> > > > > > > > > > >flywheel in that sense.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Josh
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> >************************************
> > > > > > > > > > >Josh Colombo
> > > > > > > > > > >jcc189@p... <
> mailto:jcc189@p...>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >"Life, an ever-changing
> melody
> > > > > > > > > > > of beats and rhythm" - ME
> > > > > > > > > >
> >************************************
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > >From: mike p. [
> mailto:ob1poor@y...]
> > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Monday, October 22,
> 2001 8:18
> > PM
> > > > > > > > > > >To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks]
> lightened
> > > > flywheel???
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >ok, i know people use
> lightened
> > pulleys
> > > on
> > > > subys
> > > > > but
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > about a
> > > > > > > > > > >lightened flywheel? anyone
> know
> > anyone
> > > > that
> > > > makes
> > > > > them
> > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > suby?
> > > > > > > > > > >to be more specific a 92
> subaru
> > legacy
> > > > turbo(us
> > > > > spec.
> > > > > auto
> > > > > > > > > > >slushbox). would it be
worth
> it?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
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