Josh-The TB will be modified by RC Eng. in L.A. (same ones did my injector blueprinting); it probably won`t go over 62mm in size due to limitations (per George in Aust.) but will function much better. I already have a used (newer than mine!) TB to send. I`ll let everyone know how that works out. As for the MSD, it`s fully progammable from an available hand-held unit, PC or laptop. It`s not the same as a Link or Tech II system as it works with the ignition parameters only. No A/F control, additional injector control, etc. I have the stock ECU for now, but will be upgrading to a programmable unit once I build the new motor. I`ll need it for Calif. emissions plus better performance on our wonderful 91 octane fuel. The MSD #6212 has its own floppy for your programming needs; this will be done while on the frt.-wheel drive dyno in a month or so. I`ll have the boost, timing retard (related to boost) A/F ratio set plus other tuning mods to help my engine run at its best. At $120.00 per hr. dyno time, it should`nt take more than a couple of hours to get everything dialed in. THEN, off to the 1/4 mile for its first test. We`ll go from there. See `ya---ROD (AZ.)
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From: Josh <mailto:
josh@surrealmirage.com> Colombo
To:
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] injectors
Let me know about the throttle body and stuff. If you want to go in together and buy a used one for them to "practice" on let me know....or were you just goin to buy a used one and swap it in?
As for the tuning.....Do you have new ECU management now? or are you planning? I pretty much would like to follow your lead on your N/A legacy that's been converted to turbo by Robert. I have talked with him. He has for the time being swayed me away from my auto to 5spd conversion.
I am planning to get an MSD II ignition system in the next couple months. Is there software that comes with it to tune things....I do have a laptop. Do you have an additional boost controller, or will the MSD II unit suffice for what you need since you're not running lots of boost...
But I would definitely love to know what sort of stuff would be the right direction to go, considering the turbo kit, and for tuning, any mistakes or things you would have done differently on your project.
Thanks
Josh
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From: Rod Grosvenor [mailto:
roderic@cableone.net]
Sent: Tue 1/15/2002 7:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] injectors
Josh-The TB will be opened up somewhere between 62-65mm (whatever is safe.) They`ll also smooth out all the sharp edges and the butterfly shaft for maximum flow. I bought a used TB to send them when I have an additional $249.00 + frt. It is just an R&R excercise when completed. The MSD I (#6211) has external switches to set all the features; MSD II (#6212) is a plug-in to a hand-held unit, a laptop or PC. Right now I have the unit installed with no settings-just a straight CD ignition. I have`nt bought a used lap-top yet as I don`t have the Link engine management. That will come with the new engine. What we`ll do is set the timing retard based on boost (not RPM), revlimiter, maximum boost protection based on available fuel, air-fuel ratio, convertor & front-wheel HP figures. This "tune" should last me until I build the new motor. As the old saying goes "speed costs money-how fast you wanna go???" See `ya---ROD (AZ.)
From: Josh Colombo <mailto:
josh@surrealmirage.com>
To:
BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] injectors
Hey Rod, what size would they be boring the throttle body to? and I'm assuming they'd have new butterfly and everything to go with it, basically send them your throttle body, and you get it back and bolt back on?
Also, you have mentioned your dyno tuning thing before....what are you tuning on your car? I know you've done the turbo kit, and MSD II ignition, have you done something else to require more tuning? Or is it something else?
I have talked with Robert, that dual roller bearing turbo sounds SWEET......for the time being....he also has convinced me to stay with the auto tranny in my car if I'm goin to add the turbo kit, says it will handle the torque alot better.
Josh
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Grosvenor [mailto:
roderic@cableone.net]
Sent: Fri 1/11/2002 10:49 AM
To:
BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] injectors
Hi-They`re definitely 380/cc/min per Wayne @ RC Eng. BTW, they offer a complete mod (overbore, smoothing, etc.) for throttle bodies for about $250 U.S. Now that my injectors are blueprinted, that`ll be the next item before the dyno tune. I`ll keep you all posted.---ROD (AZ.)
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From:
subaruracer755@cs.com
To:
BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:32 AM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] injectors
anyone know what make we have, what CC/min and any other info about our stock injectors?
id like to uprate them but i would like some base info first... (91 turbo) i just replaced the turbo with a TD-04 and 85% its strong pull.. other times its hesitant.. im thinking fuel... 145k im thinking injectors and fuel pump. first im gonna send the injectors out have em cleaned and flow blueprinted for $100... cheaper than new injectors... then when i get a fuel controller, ill change the size of them.
but first.. i need some baseline info!
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