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Hey.. I got a question.. This will kinda be directed to our overseas
compatriots .. As I can't really see a yank try this..

Every once and a while someone will be talking twin turbo.. Or something
drastic like dropping a SVX engine in our little bay..

But I was watching speed vision a while ago..

I don't know why we've all looked over our German big brother.. Porche.. it's
either a flat 4 or 6 most likely found turbo'd or even twin turbo'd. and
pushing enormous HP.. and there sticking them in VW's and Audi's

several versions are AWD.. Now other than the immense cost $$$ why hasn't
any body done this.. i think I'd be cheaper than spending 15,000 on a Subaru
engine in just work.. when you could find a Porsche engine for about the same
kicking out 600HP..(that was a gross estimate but it's a lot more than our
2.2)

So has anybody looked into this?

Is it viable?

How hard would it be to match up our trannie..or install a matching Porsche
trannie..?

And has anybody actually done this..?

Well, there's my two cents.. Till next time..

David Carter

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I think you may have answered your own questions.

The cost of the porsche motors, and such componants are going to be quite spendy. Also, despite the fact that it is a horizontally opposed motor, I really don't know if the engine mounts and what not are the same, the engine management, and all that sorts. Plus to top that off, earlier ones were air cooled, and the drive train is completely backwards. They are rear engine (for the most part). I know the newer ones are water cooled and such.

I personally haven't heard of anyone doin anything like this. I think it would cheaper, less headache, and more feasible to modify or upgrade to a higher output subie flat 4 or even 6.

That's my take on things....certainly not the holy grail, but my opinion.

Josh

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Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Flat engines...



Hey.. I got a question.. This will kinda be directed to our overseas
compatriots .. As I can't really see a yank try this..

Every once and a while someone will be talking twin turbo.. Or something
drastic like dropping a SVX engine in our little bay..

But I was watching speed vision a while ago..

I don't know why we've all looked over our German big brother.. Porche.. it's
either a flat 4 or 6 most likely found turbo'd or even twin turbo'd. and
pushing enormous HP.. and there sticking them in VW's and Audi's

several versions are AWD.. Now other than the immense cost $$$ why hasn't
any body done this.. i think I'd be cheaper than spending 15,000 on a Subaru
engine in just work.. when you could find a Porsche engine for about the same
kicking out 600HP..(that was a gross estimate but it's a lot more than our
2.2)

So has anybody looked into this?

Is it viable?

How hard would it be to match up our trannie..or install a matching Porsche
trannie..?

And has anybody actually done this..?

Well, there's my two cents.. Till next time..

David Carter

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I would have to agree. Why would you want a engine that costs the the price of a new car when it brakes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Colombo [mailto:josh@surrealmirage.com]
Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2002 5:49 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Flat engines...


I think you may have answered your own questions.

The cost of the porsche motors, and such componants are going to be quite spendy. Also, despite the fact that it is a horizontally opposed motor, I really don't know if the engine mounts and what not are the same, the engine management, and all that sorts. Plus to top that off, earlier ones were air cooled, and the drive train is completely backwards. They are rear engine (for the most part). I know the newer ones are water cooled and such.

I personally haven't heard of anyone doin anything like this. I think it would cheaper, less headache, and more feasible to modify or upgrade to a higher output subie flat 4 or even 6.

That's my take on things....certainly not the holy grail, but my opinion.

Josh

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Sent: Wed 1/30/2002 11:58 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Flat engines...



Hey.. I got a question.. This will kinda be directed to our overseas
compatriots .. As I can't really see a yank try this..

Every once and a while someone will be talking twin turbo.. Or something
drastic like dropping a SVX engine in our little bay..

But I was watching speed vision a while ago..

I don't know why we've all looked over our German big brother.. Porche.. it's
either a flat 4 or 6 most likely found turbo'd or even twin turbo'd. and
pushing enormous HP.. and there sticking them in VW's and Audi's

several versions are AWD.. Now other than the immense cost $$$ why hasn't
any body done this.. i think I'd be cheaper than spending 15,000 on a Subaru
engine in just work.. when you could find a Porsche engine for about the same
kicking out 600HP..(that was a gross estimate but it's a lot more than our
2.2)

So has anybody looked into this?

Is it viable?

How hard would it be to match up our trannie..or install a matching Porsche
trannie..?

And has anybody actually done this..?

Well, there's my two cents.. Till next time..

David Carter

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Expense is one, but another thing to is the
reliability of the engine. I have been looking in
Excellence magazine for a while,a magazine dedicated
to all things Porsche. The engines that you would in
the flat configuration are the sixes. The ones that
you would most likely come across are the air cooled
ones. The ones with 2 valves per cylinder.The
cylinders are coated with nikasel (sp). You can't just
bore out the engine in a rebuild like a cast iron
lined engine. Mileage is not a big issue for owners of
those cars, so that will be reduced for more
performance. You would need to reverse the positioning
of the engine for front placement. With that you will
have a much longer exhaust system than the 911. In the
end, you will be out the cost of a new WRX if you
would do all of the conversion right. rebuild alone is
in the 10k range for a decent one. Ok, lets look at an
engine from a Porsche that has the engine in the
front, the 928. Those things are known to be the most
expensive of all the Porsches that are available in
the US to maintain. So, 10k for a decent rebuild is
not rally gonna happen. My advice is to shoehorn a
turbo/supercharged SVX engine into your car. Hook up
an STI 6speed, and throw out everything that you don't
need in the car to drive it. You will not have any
problems with other cars on the road or track.



nue
95 svx
91 legacy turbo






Message: 14
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:32:23 +1100
From: "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: RE: Flat engines...

[BC-BFLegacyWorks] Flat engines...I would have to
agree. Why would you
want
a engine that costs the the price of a new car when it
brakes.
-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Colombo [mailto:josh@surrealmirage.com]
Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2002 5:49 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Flat engines...


I think you may have answered your own questions.

The cost of the porsche motors, and such componants
are going to be
quite
spendy. Also, despite the fact that it is a
horizontally opposed
motor, I
really don't know if the engine mounts and what not
are the same, the
engine
management, and all that sorts. Plus to top that off,
earlier ones
were air
cooled, and the drive train is completely backwards.
They are rear
engine
(for the most part). I know the newer ones are water
cooled and such.

I personally haven't heard of anyone doin anything
like this. I
think it
would cheaper, less headache, and more feasible to
modify or upgrade to
a
higher output subie flat 4 or even 6.

That's my take on things....certainly not the holy
grail, but my
opinion.

Josh
-----Original Message-----
From: bussaca2@aol.com [mailto:bussaca2@aol.com]
Sent: Wed 1/30/2002 11:58 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Flat engines...


Hey.. I got a question.. This will kinda be
directed to our
overseas
compatriots .. As I can't really see a yank try
this..

Every once and a while someone will be talking
twin turbo.. Or
something
drastic like dropping a SVX engine in our little
bay..

But I was watching speed vision a while ago..

I don't know why we've all looked over our German
big brother..
Porche..
it's
either a flat 4 or 6 most likely found turbo'd or
even twin
turbo'd. and
pushing enormous HP.. and there sticking them in
VW's and Audi's

several versions are AWD.. Now other than the
immense cost $$$ why
hasn't
any body done this.. i think I'd be cheaper than
spending 15,000 on
a
Subaru
engine in just work.. when you could find a
Porsche engine for
about the
same
kicking out 600HP..(that was a gross estimate but
it's a lot more
than
our
2.2)

So has anybody looked into this?

Is it viable?

How hard would it be to match up our trannie..or
install a matching
Porsche
trannie..?

And has anybody actually done this..?

Well, there's my two cents.. Till next time..

David Carter


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--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., sean john <r32657@y...> wrote:
> Expense is one, but another thing to is the
> reliability of the engine. I have been looking in
> Excellence magazine for a while,a magazine dedicated
> to all things Porsche. The engines that you would in
> the flat configuration are the sixes. The ones that
> you would most likely come across are the air cooled
> ones. The ones with 2 valves per cylinder.The
> cylinders are coated with nikasel (sp). You can't just
> bore out the engine in a rebuild like a cast iron
> lined engine. Mileage is not a big issue for owners of
> those cars, so that will be reduced for more
> performance. You would need to reverse the positioning
> of the engine for front placement. With that you will
> have a much longer exhaust system than the 911. In the
> end, you will be out the cost of a new WRX if you
> would do all of the conversion right. rebuild alone is
> in the 10k range for a decent one. Ok, lets look at an
> engine from a Porsche that has the engine in the
> front, the 928. Those things are known to be the most
> expensive of all the Porsches that are available in
> the US to maintain. So, 10k for a decent rebuild is
> not rally gonna happen. My advice is to shoehorn a
> turbo/supercharged SVX engine into your car. Hook up
> an STI 6speed, and throw out everything that you don't
> need in the car to drive it. You will not have any
> problems with other cars on the road or track.
>
>
>
> nue
> 95 svx
> 91 legacy turbo
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:32:23 +1100
> From: "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
> Subject: RE: Flat engines...
>
> [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Flat engines...I would have to
> agree. Why would you
> want
> a engine that costs the the price of a new car when it
> brakes.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Colombo [mailto:josh@s...]
> Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2002 5:49 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Flat engines...
>
>
> I think you may have answered your own questions.
>
> The cost of the porsche motors, and such componants
> are going to be
> quite
> spendy. Also, despite the fact that it is a
> horizontally opposed
> motor, I
> really don't know if the engine mounts and what not
> are the same, the
> engine
> management, and all that sorts. Plus to top that off,
> earlier ones
> were air
> cooled, and the drive train is completely backwards.
> They are rear
> engine
> (for the most part). I know the newer ones are water
> cooled and such.
>
> I personally haven't heard of anyone doin anything
> like this. I
> think it
> would cheaper, less headache, and more feasible to
> modify or upgrade to
> a
> higher output subie flat 4 or even 6.
>
> That's my take on things....certainly not the holy
> grail, but my
> opinion.
>
> Josh
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bussaca2@a... [mailto:bussaca2@a...]
> Sent: Wed 1/30/2002 11:58 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Cc:
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Flat engines...
>
>
> Hey.. I got a question.. This will kinda be
> directed to our
> overseas
> compatriots .. As I can't really see a yank try
> this..
>
> Every once and a while someone will be talking
> twin turbo.. Or
> something
> drastic like dropping a SVX engine in our little
> bay..
>
> But I was watching speed vision a while ago..
>
> I don't know why we've all looked over our German
> big brother..
> Porche..
> it's
> either a flat 4 or 6 most likely found turbo'd or
> even twin
> turbo'd. and
> pushing enormous HP.. and there sticking them in
> VW's and Audi's
>
> several versions are AWD.. Now other than the
> immense cost $$$ why
> hasn't
> any body done this.. i think I'd be cheaper than
> spending 15,000 on
> a
> Subaru
> engine in just work.. when you could find a
> Porsche engine for
> about the
> same
> kicking out 600HP..(that was a gross estimate but
> it's a lot more
> than
> our
> 2.2)
>
> So has anybody looked into this?
>
> Is it viable?
>
> How hard would it be to match up our trannie..or
> install a matching
> Porsche
> trannie..?
>
> And has anybody actually done this..?
>
> Well, there's my two cents.. Till next time..
>
> David Carter
>
>
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