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So my bosses waited until 4pm yesterday (done at 5) to tell me it was my last day and my services with the company are no longer needed. The company is down sizing and condensing the sales & purchasing department. It seems the most recent addition to the company 3 months ago will be doing my job for a lesser wage. (no wonder since he's a freakin' douche bag kiss ass suck up anyway)
WELL F&*CKING THANKS A$#HOLES!!!!!!!
Am I bitter, nah I'm straight up pissed off & hope this "kid" ruins it for them hardcore which shouldn't be too much of a problem for him to do!!! </rant> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Needless to say I was in total shock all of last night and my wife went into financial disaster relief mode right away. It was several hours before I got my "wife" back instead of our home finances "accountant".
The most positive note was that my closest friends came over with the assistance of beer to help ease the pain. Yeah, I've got great friends and I know it!!
At the current moment, I had to put finishing my car build on hold and any future projects until I can locate another decent paying job w/ worth while health benefits. My wife is an RN at the local hospital and gets paid very well and they quite often are asking for over time, so that had kept us in a comfortable position for some time now.
So to any of you who thinks the economy isn't bad OPEN YOUR DAMN EYES ALREADY!!!! If you wake up, go to work and still have a job - consider youself lucky that day and do it all over again tomorrow.
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Sorry to hear that, man... If it's any consolation, being fired or leaving one job, for me anyway, has often resulted in something much better the next time.
If you've ever wanted to try a new career, here's a chance, or go back to school, take acting lessons, etc.
Pretty standard procedure; let 'em go on Friday at the end of the workday... theoretically it lessens the chances of you coming back with a high-powered automatic weapon and doing some downsizing of your own.
Yeah but I was let go on "Monday"... They are simply a bunch of freakin' idiots.
When I stopped in to the plant manager's office he did tell me that he did his best to stick up for me & my job there. When they said they were still going through with it he informed them that they had no idea what they were about to do to themselves by eliminating my job there.
I'm completely fine with them floundering w/o my knowledge of the internat network system, the new inventory software, and purchasing contacts over the time I was there.
Basically I'm down to the motto of: "F 'em..."
P.S. I have been currently going back to school part time for my Office Information Technology degree while working full time.
You're aware that beer is a depressant right? I'm a dealer at a casino and I see people drink lots of beer while they lose lots of money and it doesn't ease their pain any. It only makes things worse, especially for me and everyone around them.
Best of luck to you. I bet you can find a job shortly.
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"Your testes are close to your bottom but you still play with them all the time." Jeremy Clarkson
Several friends of mine have been laid off. Many are in engineering and manufacturing.
My sister was laid off a few weeks ago out in NYC. She had to move home because being unemployed as an administrator in NYC right now is possibly the worst place to find a job in such a field. Bovis Lend Lease let 300 of 800 go out of their office in the old Pan Am building (above Grand Central Station).
kimokalihi wrote:You're aware that beer is a depressant right?
Yes I am, and I'm also aware it can also be the bond that brings good friends to your aid when necessary!
Thanks for the replies & comments so far guys. I'm just focusing on hanging out around the house for the rest of the week (thank God I have an Xbox Live account!!!) and I'll be on the hunt for a job hardcore next week.
Imprezive wrote:That sucks. I'm pretty lucky to have my job (working on race cars) in an economy like this...
Yeah I bet. Sounds like a fun job though.
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"Your testes are close to your bottom but you still play with them all the time." Jeremy Clarkson
So your blaming the economy while your sitting at home drinking beer and playing xbox and your wife is bringing home the bacon?? Take responsibility of your life. When I got laid off I was out delivering pizzas as a grown ass man. Yes it's $5.75 an hour but you gotta start small when life throws you back to the bottom.
Ok, did you manage to read that I am going at the job hunt once again on Monday morning. Besides, I am being paid for the rest of this week in addition to my 1 weeks paid vaction I am due.
Yes I am in all honesty placing blame on the recent economy change. If it was so damn great then why has my company cut back internal spending and sales orders have dropped off dramatically? I was the purchasing agent for the company (cut all the P.O.'s) and I saw the money & products we were spending money on.
If I can't find a "good" job right away, I'm pretty much guarenteed at job as a "grown ass man" 2 blocks away from my house at Advance Auto Parts. My past automotive job history & vast knowledge gets me right in if need be. My wife has already hit up the local newspaper online and found some possible jobs I'm sending out resumes to this week. Plus I'm also a part time college student going back for a 2nd degree in Office I.T. while I work full time to help support my household!
So if you honestly feel that a 32yr old man (not some dumb young 20yr old) isn't "taking responsibility for my life" then you sir are the sadly mistaken one here!
One thing that people forget is that "Pizza delivery guy" will show on your resume after being released from your last high paying job. From experience and that of others I've helped that can be a killer when COMPETING for the next job.
If you can suvive on what you have until you get something worthwhile then stay home and work VERY hard on finding the next one. If you can't survive then obviously you'll need to take a temp or semi-permanant job. Just be ready to explain/justify that position to the interviewer.
BUT, I'd also be checking the laws concerning fair notice before release, you may have grounds to fight it, depending on the contract and the state laws.
Overall it sucks that the douche bag HR and management can and do "drop the axe" like that, and I feel for you. I'm in a Temp position and in the contract it states I can be released at any time with no justification needed, and I have already been notified that we (myself and 3 others in the same position) will not be renewd in December....
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Auto, AWD, Now with 275K + miles!
The economy is down EVERYwhere and many people are left to suffer from it. We had Circuit City, Office Depot & Charlie Brown's Steak House all close down their stores and let their employees go because of poor sales. That alone was over 250 people who lost their jobs in an area of 35,000 residents. Doesn't sound like much until those very same people are all after the very same job week after week to try and keep cars & homes paid for.
I'm at least thankful that I don't have a problem with owning older used vehicles because they are ALL paid for and can't be taken away by the bank! Our mortgage is up to date and that's all I care about right now...
ya, here in Sacramento there's actually some "tent-villages". no fucking joke. Like the "hoovervilles" from back in the 30's, people camping out in tents in open field because they lost their job and consequently lost their homes.
I'm lucky I didn't buy a car last year when i wanted to...
This may seem a doom-bomb, but the crash last fall was so much like the 1929 one you wouldn't believe it.
And so far, the first quarter of this year is worst than the first quarter of 1930.
All the so-called stimulus is not working to restore general prosperity and further applications will only make things worse.
Be prepared for some hard times.
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yea whoever thinks you cant blame the economy is wrong. its falling everywhere. Housing, Cars, and Banks. most people use the banks to get a home or even a car and when they loos a job. they may have to let a house go which is money the bank will not get. then people who dont have jobs arent going to be buying cars. well im still learning how bad this current situation is and how we got there. just hope the Government decides to stop watching and show us what to do sense they see things happen before we even think there might be something wrong
Tony
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90 Mazda Miata
2005 GT SWP
92ss satinsvoice wrote:LOL! that block was like F*** THIS! IM OUT!
mike-tracy wrote:Word. I'd love to get my hands on one of those trannies, but I just can't stomach the cost
SILINC3R wrote:... just hope the Government decides to stop watching and show us what to do sense they see things happen before we even think there might be something wrong
I'm sorry but I could not disagree more. If people took their head out of their ass and took responsibility for their lives, finances, etc. I don't feel we would be to the point we're at now. I feel people in general tend to live way beyond their means, borrowing money for things they WANT, rather than what they NEED. Hell the government does the same thing, look at our deficit! I don't really see how they're going to be able to a squat hill of beans about it.
Our culture has become a lazy "spoon fed" society that wants all the perks and pleasures of life without having to work for them. Obviously there will be people that will take responsibility for their actions and some that won't. However no one is making them accountable for their actions, so it perpetuates. The government steps in with the new administration, and we move closer to socialism....
I'm sorry, this is a hot issue for me. I've worked very hard for what I have and where I've gotten. I don't have the fanciest stuff, most expensive car, but I live within my means without a huge debt above my head and having to worry if I will lose my house, car, etc.
I know there will be people that disagree with me, but this is my opinion. I think the next several years will elude to where the world and humans as a society are headed.....
SILINC3R wrote:... just hope the Government decides to stop watching and show us what to do sense they see things happen before we even think there might be something wrong
I'm sorry but I could not disagree more. If people took their head out of their ass and took responsibility for their lives, finances, etc. I don't feel we would be to the point we're at now. I feel people in general tend to live way beyond their means, borrowing money for things they WANT, rather than what they NEED. Hell the government does the same thing, look at our deficit! I don't really see how they're going to be able to a squat hill of beans about it.
Our culture has become a lazy "spoon fed" society that wants all the perks and pleasures of life without having to work for them. Obviously there will be people that will take responsibility for their actions and some that won't. However no one is making them accountable for their actions, so it perpetuates. The government steps in with the new administration, and we move closer to socialism....
I'm sorry, this is a hot issue for me. I've worked very hard for what I have and where I've gotten. I don't have the fanciest stuff, most expensive car, but I live within my means without a huge debt above my head and having to worry if I will lose my house, car, etc.
I know there will be people that disagree with me, but this is my opinion. I think the next several years will elude to where the world and humans as a society are headed.....
Sorry about the thread hijack
true and agree. im just now getting to the point were i need to pay attention to these issues
Tony
90 LS Spec rio red sold
91 SS rio red R.I.P
90 Mazda Miata
2005 GT SWP
92ss satinsvoice wrote:LOL! that block was like F*** THIS! IM OUT!
mike-tracy wrote:Word. I'd love to get my hands on one of those trannies, but I just can't stomach the cost
There for a minute I thought I was listening to Steve .
My only fear in all of this is I currently don't own a house and am still renting. I want to buy something small this summer but I'm not sure if I want to make that move with things where they are and such. I just don't like being dependant on renting or throwing the money away... But I digres...
Jason - sorry to hear that happened to you man. I can't say you're taking the wrong approach in either your feeling's towards the company or your approach to a new position. I still believe that smart, motivated, and hard working people will always make it through tough times and I'd figure you fall into that category.
Josh, first, you didn't hijack the thread. IMO, you took it in the right direction. Second, anyone that disagrees with you is a moron.
The premises Josh put forth are the fundamental principles on which this country was built. You can reap all the benefits you want and enjoy all the spoils of life you want... if you WORK FOR THEM.
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This is all over the Internet; this particular text I took from lorencollins.net:
From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to apathy; from apathy to dependency; and from dependency back to bondage once more.
I'd put us as a country at the second-to-last phase right now. Frighteningly enough, most of the articles that contain that saying give a rough timeline of 200-300 years in which a society will go through those phases.
I hate to say it, but my generation is the worst example. We really are a bunch of spoiled-rotten lazy douchebags.
Worst of all, when we actually do something and screw it up, we expect someone else to fix our mistakes for us.
That's what's happening right now. All these CEOs of these conglomerate organizations have royally fucked up, flushing both their companies and their customers down the toilet.
This AIG bullshit makes me want to punch small children. Those cocksuckers got their first bailout last year, took that money and went on their million-dollar vacations, lost all that money so fast they recorded the greatest loss of assets EVER RECORDED IN US HISTORY, and we're giving them ANOTHER $30 BILLION.
I didn't say it in the auto bailout thread, but Steve's right in that we should be turning a blind eye to the auto bailout and devoting our full attention to this. These assholes need to be, if not beheaded, held fully accountable for their mistakes.
Madoff just needs to be beheaded. There's nothing he can do to rectify what he's done.
What scares me the most however, is that few people understand what's going on, least of all my generation. We've ultimately been raised not to even care. But what's going on is that we are borrowing against OUR FUTURE to pay for this debacle. Our livelihoods as we know them are being essentially left to the dogs to allow these muckety-mucks to continue doing the same slimy and conniving business they were before, which gets us nowhere.
Obviously, you can figure out where I stand on the bailout in general... I don't think anyone should have given anyone one red penny. Yes, I understand that we'd be in a far shittier situation right now if it didn't happen. I hate to say it, but that's what we need. Like going on a super-fast crash diet to lost 100 lbs in a month. You'll practically have to starve yourself, and you'll have to exercise like crazy. You'll be hungry, sore, grumpy, all that. But you'll trim off all the fat and become leaner and meaner, and ultimately happier.
There's only one thing we can do to get ourselves out of this, and that's WORK. Get a job if you don't have one, even if it's flipping burgers or cleaning toilets. If you already have a job, get a second job. Stop outsourcing your life (eating out, hiring maids/lawn service/etc.). Get a better education so you can not only get a better-paying job, but a job that contributes more to society. Instead of watching TV when you're home from work, brush up on your computer skills or learn a second language to make yourself more employable.
We can get out of this. We can get our future back. We can disprove that theory I mentioned before about ending up back in bondage. If we wanted to, we could rebuild this country back into what it was in its early days, as the strongest nation in the world.
We've done it before, several times in fact. After the American Revolution. After the Civil War. After the Great Depression. After both World Wars.
But we have to WORK at it!
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... as well as [/haphazard and largely-ineffective motivational speech]
P.S. Read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. The section I just finished (about halfway through) is so pertinent to what's going on right now, I'd almost call her a prophet.
What scares the SHIT out of me is the morons of my generation ( I was born in 1991, I'm 17 and in college, so most of the people I am talking about are between 17 and 21) who believe it is absolutely the governments job to "serve" the people by giving them handouts and bailing out the 29 yearold assholes driving Masaratis on Wallstreet.
It royally pisses me off to hear about how that Obama is the Messiah and that all he is "doing" is what will pull us out of this economic rut.
I think Jim Rogers put it best in a CNBC interview a few months back.
Jim Rogers wrote:Never before in world history have people been able to buy houses with no money down. many people bought 4 and 5 houses with no money down and no job. And then they did it with cars and credit card loans. You think we are just going to start over and say, "Oh well, thats too bad, nobody loses his job. Be realistic."
And IMHO the people who claim that this whole situation is the Mortgage Brokers and Lending Agents fault because "they wrote the loans and told people they qualify" are MORONS who need to start accepting the consequences for their own actions. I'm sorry, but at the end of the day, the people who were told they qualified are the ones who signed on the dotted line at the bottom of the page.
All that is meant by qualifying for a loan is that based upon your current debt, and your income you can "afford" to make the payment. They dont take into consideration all your other expenses, food for your kids, gas to get to work/school, utilities. So like I said, at the end of the day, you're the person signing on the dotted line. NOT the mortgage broker or lending agent. You know how much you can truly afford. And its not their job to, its your job to take responsibility for your own actions.
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And sorry to hear about your situation Jason, best of luck to ya!
~Spencer
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Thats all well and good. Reasonable, in fact. But all that presupposes that in this era of democratic majority the people still need possess even a modicum of personal accountability, when the sad reality is that its just not true. They (we) believe in and depend on gov't assistance. And thats just the way uncle sam would have it as he's all too happy to assist and enable to the point of depedancy ensuring his continued control.
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There for a minute I thought I was listening to Steve .
My only fear in all of this is I currently don't own a house and am still renting. I want to buy something small this summer but I'm not sure if I want to make that move with things where they are and such. I just don't like being dependant on renting or throwing the money away... But I digres....
Yeah...when I was typing that up, it brought up a few memories of past threads where Steve and I, primarily Steve, have voiced our opinions on matters such as this.
Regarding the house. I don't own either, I rent. There are a couple reasons for that. One I can't say for certainty that my job will keep me in Houston beyond the next 5-10 years. I would probably need at least that to get out of the house what I put in. It is very tempting to look at buying a house now due to the prices....but there's still some uncertainty regarding things not only with my life, but the economy that I'm not willing to make that jump. I am however putting money away so that when I do buy, I can put money down.
A second reason I'm not looking at buying is because to get something in the area I want is going to put me out of the price range I want to spend, or feel comfortable to spend right now based on the economy. Again, goes back to living within my means. Plus I've got a really sweet deal where I'm at. It's house with garage (most important....could be bigger though ) in a good location for me. My landlord is an elderly couple. I help them out with things around the house, they watch the place when I'm gone for work, and the rent is very reasonable.
There are a lot of other costs with owning a home that kind of get thrown into the mix. Yes you may get some tax breaks, but are they really worth it....that's up to the person who owns the house, and the lifestyle/future they have. If you plan to stay in one spot the rest of your life, then it's probably better to buy. I trust you'll do your homework before you buy and know whether you can afford it.
The company is down sizing and condensing the sales & purchasing department. It seems the most recent addition to the company 3 months ago will be doing my job for a lesser wage. (no wonder since he's a freakin' douche bag kiss ass suck up anyway)
Yeah but I was let go on "Monday"... They are simply a bunch of freakin' idiots. 
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) in a good location for me. My landlord is an elderly couple. I help them out with things around the house, they watch the place when I'm gone for work, and the rent is very reasonable.