I want to love my BD Legacy but I can't

ciper · Post by **ciper** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:33 am

I have a BD with a perfect running 2.2 in it and I just can't get myself to like the car after owning it all these years. It even has a spoiler!

The engine runs better than most 2.2, using absolutely zero oil between changes and has good power. Problem is the car just feels like a dog compared to a similar first generation. Even the BD GTs I have driven dont feel as good as my POS 91 with a 2.5 swapped in.

Is it just me?

dscoobydoo · Post by **dscoobydoo** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:05 am

I prefer the outside look of the 2nd gens.
Sadly, no one swaps them, and the power is not quite SS levels.

I still like them.

Grayguy · Post by **Grayguy** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:37 am

There are quite a few swapped BD's out there, but not nearly as many as the impreza's. I've never understood why, since the legacy is a bigger nicer car. That's why I got my BD over a GC.

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:42 pm

I like all of them except the new generation.

The BL/BP was a little big and heavy, but at least it was a nice car and good-looking, as well as having some actual performance models like the GT and Spec-B.

I don't know which gen is my favorite though. Our generation was definitely the best-built, but they're rather small and cramped by today's standards. Looks, I think I'd have to give to the BE/BH.

ciper · Post by **ciper** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:08 pm

I can't do it. If anyone wants to buy the car its a 95 (obd2 but only needs obd1 test) sedan with factory spoiler and I just replaced the transmission.

93forestpearl · Post by **93forestpearl** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:26 pm

I don't like the seating position and the way the door cards are laid out. The ouside of the car looks nice though.

Post by **Legacy777** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:11 pm

Yeah.....I like the exterior of the 95-99 MY's, but the interiors were ehhh.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:44 pm

Yeah, I'm only looking forward to getting a 98-99 wagon because it will be replacing the Mazda, but I don't expect it to be a newer Duchess by any stretch.

ericem · Post by **ericem** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:42 am

Legacy777 wrote:Yeah.....I like the exterior of the 95-99 MY's, but the interiors were ehhh.

Agreed! In my 94 SS I feel the interior is much nicer. Test drove a 98 GT it did look nicer I guess on the outside, but on the inside feels cheap, generic. Just didn't feel at home.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:52 am

It's not especially rich feeling, but I love the interiors of the 1st generation cars in a dark color. They're rugged, a little different looking, have excellent ergonomics, and the materials weren't much different than their contemporaries. Compared to today's cars, the seats are very comfortable (I drove 19 hours without ass, leg, or lower back fatigue while many comparable modern cars turn to granite after several hours or don't properly support my legs or back) and the cowl is actually low enough to not feel like an old lady trying desperately to see over the rim of the wheel. When I bought the Mazda 3, I knew from the 1st day I was buying a lesser, flimsier car and it feels every bit of its 100k miles already. I bought the Legacy with more than that and didn't blink to drive it cross country with 150k. I wouldn't take the Mazda cross country now. I'm just hoping a BG can be half as good as Duchess.

93forestpearl · Post by **93forestpearl** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:17 am

^ I think ergo is the main thing with that body style. Granted, the mechanicals are essentially the same and should have little issue. However, the interior is the deal breaker for me. The vertical window switches are the deal breaker for me. Second is the low seating position.

My sister's '95 is solid and drives great for that old of a car, but it doesn't inspire confidence when I flog it. It is probably a safer car though.

Apex3 · Post by **Apex3** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:48 am

I don't love my BC, it's nice to be able to take it up skiing, but I miss my e30

Post by **Legacy777** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:27 am

93forestpearl wrote:^ I think ergo is the main thing with that body style. Granted, the mechanicals are essentially the same and should have little issue. However, the interior is the deal breaker for me. The vertical window switches are the deal breaker for me. Second is the low seating position.

My sister's '95 is solid and drives great for that old of a car, but it doesn't inspire confidence when I flog it. It is probably a safer car though.

The window switches are one of the big things I can't stand. My 97 Impreza has them. I really don't like them.

jamal · Post by **jamal** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:19 am

you shut your damn mouth

(although I agree on the window switches)

ericem · Post by **ericem** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:25 am

Someone's upset!!!!

SiCkSTi04 · Post by **SiCkSTi04** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:52 am

yea the door cards and switches

Bdub · Post by **Bdub** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:01 am

Yeah, those damn switches. Lady who I bought my car from goes "The lock button doesn't work, you have to manually press the lever to get them to work."
This lady was the original owner for 13 years and never even knew the LOCK button was for the windows, not the doors. Suppose on 95 they could have at least placed a picture or added WINDOW to the button. I believe they changed that in 97 though.

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:47 am

I think Subaru's thought process on the 2nd-gen window switches was that you would be resting your arm on the top of the door card, and could just reach down with your thumb to operate the windows.

Post by **Legacy777** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:30 pm

DerFahrer wrote:I think Subaru's thought process on the 2nd-gen window switches was that you would be resting your arm on the top of the door card, and could just reach down with your thumb to operate the windows.

I guess I just don't care much for their thought process then

Dynamic Entry · Post by **Dynamic Entry** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:27 pm

solution for the OP

Max Headroom · Post by **Max Headroom** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:09 pm

I've had several BC/BF's over the years, including a BC7 4WD brand new in 1990. I gave my BF7 (with 220,000mi) to my son five years ago and replaced it with a low mileage 2.5l BG Outback. Although it was smoother and more refined, it felt very bland. I sold it twelve months ago and got the BF7 back off my son. Much better.

And I'd still be driving the BF7 if it weren't for some pillock who drove through a stop sign in front of me. Instantly three feet shorter, I replaced it with a JDM BF5 turbo which has proved to be a fun daily driver.

My wife bought a BH Outback H6 three years ago which has done 187,000mi and is now surplus, since my wife got a company car recently. I've been driving the BH for the last few days to see if I should keep it and sell the BF5. It has the drawcard of being more modern, quiet & smooth, and equipped with ABS, dual airbags etc, but it's just not involving enough to drive. There is a sense of feeling disconnected to the road. If my driving consisted entirely of city/suburban/motorway work, it would be fine. Instead we live in the country and drive on roads which can be demanding at times. I want something which has direct, responsive steering and actually communicates what it's doing.

I'll stay with the BF5 . . . .

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:08 pm

I've driven sports cars with worse steering feel and worse balance than Duchess with a Grant steering wheel, $1 wood shift knob, and common wheel upgrade. The best thing is that it's entertaining at reasonable speeds (if not necessarily legal ones), unlike modern performance cars that might only come alive over 100, if at all.

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