rally conversion

[crappyrice]

ok i have a 1991 subaru legacy turbo sedan, with auto transmission. got 193 000 kms on its engine, and i bought it at 188 000 kms. so i dont really know what its been through. also i just got the 4eat transmission rebuilt yesterday, casue some chunks from the torque converter went inside it, and messe dit up. ok so now for my question.

IF i want to tun this thing into a competitive rally car, what do u guys recommend i do. bigger turbo, intercoller, tires, just give me a list of all the BEST stuff to do to get the most performance out of it, money isnt a objust, well it is, just dont want it to end up a 500 000 dollar car. just something i can go really fast on any road condition with, and have tonnes of fun, and at the same time learn lots about cars, so i can go on later on and do it again to a more suitable rally car.

[Binford]

What do you mean, "more suitable rally car"?

[AWD_addict]

Get a rally shop to put a good 'cage in it so you and the car will survive somewhat when you roll.

[crappyrice]

does this car even have a chance of romming, lol casue its pretty wide, and pretty low., and my more suitable i mean the same reason subaru dont use legacy anymore in rally, the wrx ism ore suitable for too many reasons, basically i meant a lighter smaller car.

[stipro]

You have to excuse me, but, a Legacy Turbo makes a rather impressive rally car. There are so many parts available for if because of the more important parts it shares with the Impreza, Suspension parts. Some friends of mine have a 1991 Turbo and is more than up to the taste of taking on a rally, even in mostly stock form. It is an excellent car to learn and grow with. Dont worry about more power right away. Learn to drive first.

[Kelly]

Besides, a legacy is only like 200 pounds heavierthan an Impreza, sure newer cars are stiffer, but after you put a cage and bracing in it, it wont matter.

I think a Legacy would make a perfect rally car. One reason being that there are sooooo many of them in wrecking yeards, and ya, the whole EJ series everything swaps over stuff.

I'd put most my money in the suspension. Dollars spent on the good stuff, will be worth its weight in gold. Cheap dampeners will always have to be replaced.

Tires, Roll cage, Seats, belts, safety equiptment, intercom, freshen motor, skid plates, bla bla = cha ching

[jamal]

rally370 runs a legacy rally car, and the other car on his team is a turbo (car 354). I think all you really need are the safety parts (cage, seats, suits, helmets, harnesses, etc.), a decent suspension setup, and gravel tires.

Here are some pictures of the Legacy rally cars at the Rim of the world rally (that Legacy with the lights in the first pic is mine):













Bonus shot of Jason Grahn's car:

[rallysam]

If you're talking about rallycross, then don't do anything to it.
If you're talking about stage rally, then you need to do a LOT - too much to list here (mostly relating to safety and durability, not performance-wise).

You've come to the wrong forum for info about that. Try:

http://www.specialstage.com

[greg donovan]

ANY car will rollover given the right circumstances.

[JasonGrahn]

BONUS SHOT! Extra points for Jamal for the plug.

Don't modify a damn thing for power on the car until you learn how to drive it. The old saying goes "You don't need more power until you can drive a full rally without ever lifting." This is definitely a good case for a legacy turbo with gobs of torque and a decent top speed (Rocky Mountain Rally in Calgary is one where it could be see on stage for a brief period).

Do this, in this order: Cage, tyres, suspension. YOU won't even need a full-on suspension like DMS either. Call the Sprongl's at Four Star Motorsports in Georgetown, ON. They've done a legacy in the past quite competitively if i recall correctly (I think they fielded the early 90's factory team for subaru canada).

[crappyrice]

"You don't need more power until you can drive a full rally without ever lifting."

i thought u were never supposed to go full throttle for a whole stage???

[jamal]

You can't win unless you're going as fast as you can... Although yes, you do have to slow down occasionally for corners and such.