Hey guys-
Thanks for setting up this group- I'm excited to find out that I'm not alone. I live in Vermont and have seen a total of less than SIX turbos (sedan or wagon), and none in the same body trim as mine (which I love).
Anyways- I've hit about 91,500 miles on my uberSub, and it's time for the 90K tune-up. The manual recommends a number of replacements and inspections at this interval. To save money, I'll be doing as much as possible myself. Before running out to the auto parts store last night, it occurred to me to check online to make sure that I wouldn't get screwed (prices were, on average, 50% less). I don't know much about auto mechanics (I'm a bike mechanic), so I was wondering if I should upgrade any of the following parts for an increase in reliability/milage/performance?
Spark Plugs: $1.50ea for regular, $4.00 platinum
Plug Wires: $12.00 universal, $25-42.00 custom (do I need these?)
Fuel Filter: $25.00 Bosch
Air Cleaner: $5.00 Fram, $40.00 K&N
Also, has anyone mounted a CD changer in the cabin? I'd like to work a radio/tape/CD system into the sub, but don't know if a CD changer will fit where I can reach it (I'm usually alone).
Any input would be great! Thanks-
Marc
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matt scicchitano
90K mile tune-up on my 93spt sedan
Marc, I'm sure others will chime in as well so I'll just give you my opinions.
As far as the plugs, I personally wouldn't use anything but NGKs or Denso's. Some people have good luck with Bosch as well. Just don't put Champions in. I just get the normal plugs just because my Turbo likes to eat spark plugs after about 10,000 miles or so and although the Plats last longer, I just feel better knowing I have brand new plugs in there.
Plug wires. I would by either genuine Subaru replacement wires or NGK wires. I have never had good luck with anything but those. Either they don't fit right or they are too long or short. But who knows, maybe you'll get a good set of universals.
Fuel fiter. I believe the Subaru one is only a buck or two more but I'm sure the Bosch will work fine.
Air filter. Get the K&N!!!!!!!!! I have a slightly used K&N filter I could sell you if you'd like.
You might want to change your PCV valve as well. I believe Sube recommends it every 30,000 miles.
Again, this is only things that have worked. Others may have good luck with other products I'm sure.
A few tips: To get to the number 4 spark plug(left rear), save yourself some hassle and remove the washer bottle( two 10 or 12mm bots). Unless you have the right size swivel socket, it's a pain to get in there with the bottle still there.
After you get the plug wires on the coils, take a small screw driver and run it around the edge of the plug wire boot while pushing on the boot. This allows any trapped air to escape. You will sometimes hear the little puffs of air come out that were trapped in there. "burping" them allows for an air tight fit.
And when replacing the filter, just make sure the fuel lines are pointed away from you when you take them off so the pressurized fuel in the lines doesn't get you.
As for the CD play I am of no help. I do know Subaru offered a CD that will fit right in the stock location( where the little storage area is under the radio), but they are usually overpriced.
Glad you are happy with this group. I figured it's about time we had something to call our own :^) Good luck.
-Matt
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From: Marc Basiliere < mtnboy@softhome.net>
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Date: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:56 AM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] 90K mile tune-up on my 93spt sedan
Hey guys-
Thanks for setting up this group- I'm excited to find out that I'm not alone. I live in Vermont and have seen a total of less than SIX turbos (sedan or wagon), and none in the same body trim as mine (which I love).
Anyways- I've hit about 91,500 miles on my uberSub, and it's time for the 90K tune-up. The manual recommends a number of replacements and inspections at this interval. To save money, I'll be doing as much as possible myself. Before running out to the auto parts store last night, it occurred to me to check online to make sure that I wouldn't get screwed (prices were, on average, 50% less). I don't know much about auto mechanics (I'm a bike mechanic), so I was wondering if I should upgrade any of the following parts for an increase in reliability/milage/performance?
Spark Plugs: $1.50ea for regular, $4.00 platinum
Plug Wires: $12.00 universal, $25-42.00 custom (do I need these?)
Fuel Filter: $25.00 Bosch
Air Cleaner: $5.00 Fram, $40.00 K&N
Also, has anyone mounted a CD changer in the cabin? I'd like to work a radio/tape/CD system into the sub, but don't know if a CD changer will fit where I can reach it (I'm usually alone).
Any input would be great! Thanks-
Marc
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As far as the plugs, I personally wouldn't use anything but NGKs or Denso's. Some people have good luck with Bosch as well. Just don't put Champions in. I just get the normal plugs just because my Turbo likes to eat spark plugs after about 10,000 miles or so and although the Plats last longer, I just feel better knowing I have brand new plugs in there.
Plug wires. I would by either genuine Subaru replacement wires or NGK wires. I have never had good luck with anything but those. Either they don't fit right or they are too long or short. But who knows, maybe you'll get a good set of universals.
Fuel fiter. I believe the Subaru one is only a buck or two more but I'm sure the Bosch will work fine.
Air filter. Get the K&N!!!!!!!!! I have a slightly used K&N filter I could sell you if you'd like.
You might want to change your PCV valve as well. I believe Sube recommends it every 30,000 miles.
Again, this is only things that have worked. Others may have good luck with other products I'm sure.
A few tips: To get to the number 4 spark plug(left rear), save yourself some hassle and remove the washer bottle( two 10 or 12mm bots). Unless you have the right size swivel socket, it's a pain to get in there with the bottle still there.
After you get the plug wires on the coils, take a small screw driver and run it around the edge of the plug wire boot while pushing on the boot. This allows any trapped air to escape. You will sometimes hear the little puffs of air come out that were trapped in there. "burping" them allows for an air tight fit.
And when replacing the filter, just make sure the fuel lines are pointed away from you when you take them off so the pressurized fuel in the lines doesn't get you.
As for the CD play I am of no help. I do know Subaru offered a CD that will fit right in the stock location( where the little storage area is under the radio), but they are usually overpriced.
Glad you are happy with this group. I figured it's about time we had something to call our own :^) Good luck.
-Matt
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From: Marc Basiliere < mtnboy@softhome.net>
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com < BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:56 AM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] 90K mile tune-up on my 93spt sedan
Hey guys-
Thanks for setting up this group- I'm excited to find out that I'm not alone. I live in Vermont and have seen a total of less than SIX turbos (sedan or wagon), and none in the same body trim as mine (which I love).
Anyways- I've hit about 91,500 miles on my uberSub, and it's time for the 90K tune-up. The manual recommends a number of replacements and inspections at this interval. To save money, I'll be doing as much as possible myself. Before running out to the auto parts store last night, it occurred to me to check online to make sure that I wouldn't get screwed (prices were, on average, 50% less). I don't know much about auto mechanics (I'm a bike mechanic), so I was wondering if I should upgrade any of the following parts for an increase in reliability/milage/performance?
Spark Plugs: $1.50ea for regular, $4.00 platinum
Plug Wires: $12.00 universal, $25-42.00 custom (do I need these?)
Fuel Filter: $25.00 Bosch
Air Cleaner: $5.00 Fram, $40.00 K&N
Also, has anyone mounted a CD changer in the cabin? I'd like to work a radio/tape/CD system into the sub, but don't know if a CD changer will fit where I can reach it (I'm usually alone).
Any input would be great! Thanks-
Marc
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Dave aka DLC/dackampf
90K mile tune-up on my 93spt sedan
Since Matt covered all of the engine stuff i'll not dwell on it for
long.
I just installed some Densos this weekend and i'd recommend the NGKs
as well. Remove the washer bottle or you'll be screaming for mercy.
K&N is the best filter to get...
I've got a Pioneer head unit and cdchanger installed in my wagon.
The changer is under the passenger seat facing rearward so it's
relatively easy for me to reach around and take out the shuttle.
I've got a 45x2 RF Punch amp under the driver seat and a 12" JL Audio
sub in the rear. Stock Clarion speakers with some Ultimate tweets on
the top of the dash complete a really nice sounding package.
Glad to have you aboard!
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "Marc Basiliere" <mtnboy@s...>
wrote:
> Hey guys-
> Thanks for setting up this group- I'm excited to find out that
I'm not
> alone. I live in Vermont and have seen a total of less than SIX
turbos
> (sedan or wagon), and none in the same body trim as mine (which I
love).
> Anyways- I've hit about 91,500 miles on my uberSub, and it's time
for the
> 90K tune-up. The manual recommends a number of replacements and
inspections
> at this interval. To save money, I'll be doing as much as possible
myself.
> Before running out to the auto parts store last night, it occurred
to me to
> check online to make sure that I wouldn't get screwed (prices were,
on
> average, 50% less). I don't know much about auto mechanics (I'm a
bike
> mechanic), so I was wondering if I should upgrade any of the
following parts
> for an increase in reliability/milage/performance?
> Spark Plugs: $1.50ea for regular, $4.00 platinum
> Plug Wires: $12.00 universal, $25-42.00 custom (do I need these?)
> Fuel Filter: $25.00 Bosch
> Air Cleaner: $5.00 Fram, $40.00 K&N
>
> Also, has anyone mounted a CD changer in the cabin? I'd like to
work a
> radio/tape/CD system into the sub, but don't know if a CD changer
will fit
> where I can reach it (I'm usually alone).
>
> Any input would be great! Thanks-
>
> Marc
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long.
I just installed some Densos this weekend and i'd recommend the NGKs
as well. Remove the washer bottle or you'll be screaming for mercy.
K&N is the best filter to get...
I've got a Pioneer head unit and cdchanger installed in my wagon.
The changer is under the passenger seat facing rearward so it's
relatively easy for me to reach around and take out the shuttle.
I've got a 45x2 RF Punch amp under the driver seat and a 12" JL Audio
sub in the rear. Stock Clarion speakers with some Ultimate tweets on
the top of the dash complete a really nice sounding package.
Glad to have you aboard!
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "Marc Basiliere" <mtnboy@s...>
wrote:
> Hey guys-
> Thanks for setting up this group- I'm excited to find out that
I'm not
> alone. I live in Vermont and have seen a total of less than SIX
turbos
> (sedan or wagon), and none in the same body trim as mine (which I
love).
> Anyways- I've hit about 91,500 miles on my uberSub, and it's time
for the
> 90K tune-up. The manual recommends a number of replacements and
inspections
> at this interval. To save money, I'll be doing as much as possible
myself.
> Before running out to the auto parts store last night, it occurred
to me to
> check online to make sure that I wouldn't get screwed (prices were,
on
> average, 50% less). I don't know much about auto mechanics (I'm a
bike
> mechanic), so I was wondering if I should upgrade any of the
following parts
> for an increase in reliability/milage/performance?
> Spark Plugs: $1.50ea for regular, $4.00 platinum
> Plug Wires: $12.00 universal, $25-42.00 custom (do I need these?)
> Fuel Filter: $25.00 Bosch
> Air Cleaner: $5.00 Fram, $40.00 K&N
>
> Also, has anyone mounted a CD changer in the cabin? I'd like to
work a
> radio/tape/CD system into the sub, but don't know if a CD changer
will fit
> where I can reach it (I'm usually alone).
>
> Any input would be great! Thanks-
>
> Marc
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Josh Colombo
90K mile tune-up on my 93spt sedan
Hey Marc, the only thing I'll add to what Matt said about the fuel filter, is to open the gas cap before you start. This will relieve some of the pressure, but not all of it....gas will still pee all over the place, also it's probably safer to do this on a cool engine 
As for your changer question. Can you give me some more details and or what you want to do. I have done quite an extensive stereo in my legacy, with most of it being custom installed by me. You can check it out on my page, it's in the links section on Legacy works site. I've got a small idea about where you could put one but it sorta depends how big the unit is, and how crafty you want to get with custom work.
Definitely if you have questions fee free to ask...
Josh
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Basiliere [mailto:mtnboy@softhome.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 7:54 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] 90K mile tune-up on my 93spt sedan
Hey guys-
Thanks for setting up this group- I'm excited to find out that I'm not alone. I live in Vermont and have seen a total of less than SIX turbos (sedan or wagon), and none in the same body trim as mine (which I love).
Anyways- I've hit about 91,500 miles on my uberSub, and it's time for the 90K tune-up. The manual recommends a number of replacements and inspections at this interval. To save money, I'll be doing as much as possible myself. Before running out to the auto parts store last night, it occurred to me to check online to make sure that I wouldn't get screwed (prices were, on average, 50% less). I don't know much about auto mechanics (I'm a bike mechanic), so I was wondering if I should upgrade any of the following parts for an increase in reliability/milage/performance?
Spark Plugs: $1.50ea for regular, $4.00 platinum
Plug Wires: $12.00 universal, $25-42.00 custom (do I need these?)
Fuel Filter: $25.00 Bosch
Air Cleaner: $5.00 Fram, $40.00 K&N
Also, has anyone mounted a CD changer in the cabin? I'd like to work a radio/tape/CD system into the sub, but don't know if a CD changer will fit where I can reach it (I'm usually alone).
Any input would be great! Thanks-
Marc
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As for your changer question. Can you give me some more details and or what you want to do. I have done quite an extensive stereo in my legacy, with most of it being custom installed by me
. You can check it out on my page, it's in the links section on Legacy works site. I've got a small idea about where you could put one but it sorta depends how big the unit is, and how crafty you want to get with custom work. Definitely if you have questions fee free to ask...
Josh
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Josh Colombo
jcc189@psu.edu
************************
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Basiliere [mailto:mtnboy@softhome.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 7:54 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] 90K mile tune-up on my 93spt sedan
Hey guys-
Thanks for setting up this group- I'm excited to find out that I'm not alone. I live in Vermont and have seen a total of less than SIX turbos (sedan or wagon), and none in the same body trim as mine (which I love).
Anyways- I've hit about 91,500 miles on my uberSub, and it's time for the 90K tune-up. The manual recommends a number of replacements and inspections at this interval. To save money, I'll be doing as much as possible myself. Before running out to the auto parts store last night, it occurred to me to check online to make sure that I wouldn't get screwed (prices were, on average, 50% less). I don't know much about auto mechanics (I'm a bike mechanic), so I was wondering if I should upgrade any of the following parts for an increase in reliability/milage/performance?
Spark Plugs: $1.50ea for regular, $4.00 platinum
Plug Wires: $12.00 universal, $25-42.00 custom (do I need these?)
Fuel Filter: $25.00 Bosch
Air Cleaner: $5.00 Fram, $40.00 K&N
Also, has anyone mounted a CD changer in the cabin? I'd like to work a radio/tape/CD system into the sub, but don't know if a CD changer will fit where I can reach it (I'm usually alone).
Any input would be great! Thanks-
Marc
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Barrett, Sam
90K mile tune-up on my 93spt sedan
Marc,
I'm 1/2 way through what you are about to do. I'm kinda bummed right now b/c I am waiting on my S.O.A. manuals I orderd last week and they haven't shown up (GRrrrr!)
Any who:
Get NGK sparks. I replace mine with stock, but I don't have a turbo. I've heard <talking out of ass> that if you have a turbo, it's not such a bad idea to get colder firing sparks b/c this will help prevent knocking. Might not be true, I dunno. </talking out of ass> Can't go wrong with stock for couple bucks ea.
Wires: for $35 -$40 you can get Magnecore wires and they *should* last 4 ever. I'm about to get some. The wires they guarentee for life, but they don't back the contacts b/c some idiot like you or me can bung them up installing them.
Filter: Just replaced mine. Suggestion: WATCH OUT FOR FUEL SPRAY. That line comming from the engine was under some serious pressure when I removed it and I got coated. KEEP AWAY FROM EYES!!! Otherwise it's a 15 min replacement. Stock part costs $25. When the prices are close I stick with S.O.A. parts b/c I know they meet specs. The fuel filter on Subes are BIG (compared to other imports esp. Pacific origin) so I don't think you will earn much by replacing it with anything "advanced". But I haven't really shopped around for them either so I might be a little un-educated on that one.
Air Cleaner: That $40 air filter by K&N is re-usable. If you plan on keeping the car you can re-use it for a good long time and save a couple or few $ over the life of the car. Plus it gives you a little extra oompf.
Other suggestions: Check your belts at this time too.
Tools: 17mm deep socket for the plugs, extension (medium), ratchet and a phillips screwdriver (to remove the washer fluid tank to get at left rear plug) and a small flat head screw driver (to release air pressure from plug wires on insertion) that will take care of the plugs
Air filter: screwdriver if you just replace
Fuel filter: Your own two paws will get the job done, but you might want something to pinch the line to keep the fuel IN the line and not on everything else.
Suggestion: go to a dealer and get their inspection list and do yourself the same favor of going through it all (brake pads, hand brake etc. stuff you would forget)
-Hope this helps
Sambo
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From: Marc Basiliere [mailto:mtnboy@softhome.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:54 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] 90K mile tune-up on my 93spt sedan
Hey guys-
Thanks for setting up this group- I'm excited to find out that I'm not alone. I live in Vermont and have seen a total of less than SIX turbos (sedan or wagon), and none in the same body trim as mine (which I love).
Anyways- I've hit about 91,500 miles on my uberSub, and it's time for the 90K tune-up. The manual recommends a number of replacements and inspections at this interval. To save money, I'll be doing as much as possible myself. Before running out to the auto parts store last night, it occurred to me to check online to make sure that I wouldn't get screwed (prices were, on average, 50% less). I don't know much about auto mechanics (I'm a bike mechanic), so I was wondering if I should upgrade any of the following parts for an increase in reliability/milage/performance?
Spark Plugs: $1.50ea for regular, $4.00 platinum
Plug Wires: $12.00 universal, $25-42.00 custom (do I need these?)
Fuel Filter: $25.00 Bosch
Air Cleaner: $5.00 Fram, $40.00 K&N
Also, has anyone mounted a CD changer in the cabin? I'd like to work a radio/tape/CD system into the sub, but don't know if a CD changer will fit where I can reach it (I'm usually alone).
Any input would be great! Thanks-
Marc
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I'm 1/2 way through what you are about to do. I'm kinda bummed right now b/c I am waiting on my S.O.A. manuals I orderd last week and they haven't shown up (GRrrrr!)
Any who:
Get NGK sparks. I replace mine with stock, but I don't have a turbo. I've heard <talking out of ass> that if you have a turbo, it's not such a bad idea to get colder firing sparks b/c this will help prevent knocking. Might not be true, I dunno. </talking out of ass> Can't go wrong with stock for couple bucks ea.
Wires: for $35 -$40 you can get Magnecore wires and they *should* last 4 ever. I'm about to get some. The wires they guarentee for life, but they don't back the contacts b/c some idiot like you or me can bung them up installing them.
Filter: Just replaced mine. Suggestion: WATCH OUT FOR FUEL SPRAY. That line comming from the engine was under some serious pressure when I removed it and I got coated. KEEP AWAY FROM EYES!!! Otherwise it's a 15 min replacement. Stock part costs $25. When the prices are close I stick with S.O.A. parts b/c I know they meet specs. The fuel filter on Subes are BIG (compared to other imports esp. Pacific origin) so I don't think you will earn much by replacing it with anything "advanced". But I haven't really shopped around for them either so I might be a little un-educated on that one.
Air Cleaner: That $40 air filter by K&N is re-usable. If you plan on keeping the car you can re-use it for a good long time and save a couple or few $ over the life of the car. Plus it gives you a little extra oompf.
Other suggestions: Check your belts at this time too.
Tools: 17mm deep socket for the plugs, extension (medium), ratchet and a phillips screwdriver (to remove the washer fluid tank to get at left rear plug) and a small flat head screw driver (to release air pressure from plug wires on insertion) that will take care of the plugs
Air filter: screwdriver if you just replace
Fuel filter: Your own two paws will get the job done, but you might want something to pinch the line to keep the fuel IN the line and not on everything else.
Suggestion: go to a dealer and get their inspection list and do yourself the same favor of going through it all (brake pads, hand brake etc. stuff you would forget)
-Hope this helps
Sambo
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From: Marc Basiliere [mailto:mtnboy@softhome.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:54 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] 90K mile tune-up on my 93spt sedan
Hey guys-
Thanks for setting up this group- I'm excited to find out that I'm not alone. I live in Vermont and have seen a total of less than SIX turbos (sedan or wagon), and none in the same body trim as mine (which I love).
Anyways- I've hit about 91,500 miles on my uberSub, and it's time for the 90K tune-up. The manual recommends a number of replacements and inspections at this interval. To save money, I'll be doing as much as possible myself. Before running out to the auto parts store last night, it occurred to me to check online to make sure that I wouldn't get screwed (prices were, on average, 50% less). I don't know much about auto mechanics (I'm a bike mechanic), so I was wondering if I should upgrade any of the following parts for an increase in reliability/milage/performance?
Spark Plugs: $1.50ea for regular, $4.00 platinum
Plug Wires: $12.00 universal, $25-42.00 custom (do I need these?)
Fuel Filter: $25.00 Bosch
Air Cleaner: $5.00 Fram, $40.00 K&N
Also, has anyone mounted a CD changer in the cabin? I'd like to work a radio/tape/CD system into the sub, but don't know if a CD changer will fit where I can reach it (I'm usually alone).
Any input would be great! Thanks-
Marc
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