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NICO · Post by **NICO** » Wed May 02, 2007 12:18 pm

i am having problems on which one to get and which one will work.

autronic, plugs will plug in but what would i need to do to make it work?

hydra same as first one?

or gems got a guy that has a rally legacy t and it works perfect with plug and play.

what one would you get.

gto7419 · Post by **gto7419** » Thu May 03, 2007 6:48 am

I thought you had a tuner that was able to reflash/program our stock ecus???

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Thu May 03, 2007 2:43 pm

I'd go Hydra because I've got experience with it.

Go with whatever your trusted tuner is best with.

NICO · Post by **NICO** » Thu May 03, 2007 4:41 pm

the maf sensor now dies at 13psi, its becuse i used that under the intake pipe like a wrx it freed up a huge chunk of turbo flow just amazing how the 90 elbows on the legacys slow down the flow.

i need a ems right away, the new set up is going to make some real power.

does anyone know which ems should i get that wont give me a mad head ake to wire up. and what modle car do i need to make it work.

BAC5.2 what year modle do i need to make the hydra work, and will it be hard to make it work?

IronMonkeyL255 · Post by **IronMonkeyL255** » Fri May 04, 2007 1:28 am

What harness are your running?

EJ20G/EJ22T?

NICO · Post by **NICO** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:50 am

i am running 1991 legacy turbo 5mt, the hole car is a legacy turbo with add ej20k heads, every thing is legacy turbo.

ok what i have found out right now is i can get a hydra for 2grand that will plug in to my car and they made it so it will work perfect. so all i have to do is get it tuned, my tunner siad that it takes longer to tune the hydra.

autronic i can get it for 2300 left right on my door step, but it might be a plug in type deal but i would need to do what ???????? to make it work. and the year modle i was under the impression to get is 92 - 96 uk jdm impreza wrx am i right???? and what work would be involved?

anyone with some info i thank you.

IronMonkeyL255 · Post by **IronMonkeyL255** » Fri May 04, 2007 5:29 am

For the autronic, you would probably have to convert to COP ignition, or find some other workaround. Also, you could try contacting them to see what they can do for you. They may be able to set it up for legacy turbo pinouts.

NICO · Post by **NICO** » Sat May 05, 2007 5:50 pm

thanks IronMonkeyL255 i am going to give them a call to see what will work.

is there anyone on this fourm that uses a autronic?

vica153 · Post by **vica153** » Tue May 08, 2007 6:57 pm

yeah Innovative Tuning is using Autronic.

NICO · Post by **NICO** » Tue May 08, 2007 7:27 pm

i called them there out doing something thanks for the info vica153

ok guys i am going with a autronic becuse the hydra is going to cost them same.

could someone please tell me which year modle do i order and what would i need to do to make it work with a coil pack?

Brat4by4 · Post by **Brat4by4** » Tue May 08, 2007 7:35 pm

I know you need to get a MSD-DIS2 to get the plugs to fire. You'll also need to drill and tap your intake manifold for a temperature sensor. I think 2 sensors need some sort of rectifier to change the signal pulse (crank and/or cam sensors need this).

Everything should come with the ecu, though. Make sure you get the Autotune feature.

NICO · Post by **NICO** » Tue May 08, 2007 7:46 pm

i need a msd-dis2 to make the unit work? does it not just plug in to the same legacy turbo connectors and i have to change pins around to make it work with a coil pack?

on autronic site for pluggin ecu boards, there is a listting for wrx 1994 to 1996 and if you clik on the pic its the same plugs as a legacy turbo.

Brat4by4 do you mean i need the msd for another system they sell?

this is going to cost way more then i planed if i have to go this route

Brat4by4 · Post by **Brat4by4** » Tue May 08, 2007 10:09 pm

I didn't have the drop in board for the WRX case, I don't know if that's different. Autronic will know. But for mine you needed the MSD-DIS2. You can pick them up used all day in the States...

Maybe someone can ship one to you.

Innovative Tuning · Post by **Innovative Tuning** » Wed May 09, 2007 1:18 pm

Hey I just noticed this. We closed to prep a whole new car for the Winged Warrior event in Indy Friday/Saturday. Autronic is 2199 shipped from me Nico...or you can get here from Hamilton in about a 45 minute drive, but then you'd have to pay sales tax so I might as well ship it unless you want to stop by and say hi.

I'm running the SM4 because I don't expect any of the plug and plays to work without some rewiring and I plan to take the ECU with me for future projects so I wanted a flying lead harness. The SM4 also has some extra inputs/outputs as compared to the plug and play units.

You do NOT need an ignition box for it to work. I'm using the stock legacy SS ignitor with the black diamond coil.

-Mike

NICO · Post by **NICO** » Wed May 09, 2007 7:27 pm

mike thanks for all the info, could you call me to get this all cleared up so i can get a EMS.

i will pm you.

NICO · Post by **NICO** » Wed May 09, 2007 10:11 pm

ok so now i know alot more and i am getting a autronic from (Innovative Tunning thanks mike for sure i will make my way down to come get it an say hi)

ok now what should i get sm sm2 sm4 or plug in board for wrx jdm?

i want this auto tune feature as well but i dont think i can wire my hole car up and set everything?

Innovative Tuning · Post by **Innovative Tuning** » Thu May 10, 2007 12:52 am

I used the universal SM4 rather than getting a plug and play box for the wrong car and adapting it. If you have to rewire it anyways you might as well just start with a flying lead harness, be done with the entire stock harness, and keep it simple. The universal box has a few more features as compared to the plug and play boxes. I see now that I wasn't clear when I said that in my last post.

Don't even consider the SMC or SM2. For the extra couple hundred bucks the SM4 is in a whole other league. When you're talking about 1900 vs. 2200 it doesn't make sense to give away half the features. You have to pay to add them to the older boxes and the SM4 just comes with all of them out of the box including flat shifting, antilag, etc.

I actually did use the autotune feature to
get my light throttle cruising in line quickly. I would never use it on any system in boost, and I don't use it for anything on other systems, but the SM4 lets you retain control of which cells are eligible for autotuning and I love that.

I'll give you a call,

-Mike

NICO · Post by **NICO** » Sat May 19, 2007 12:27 am

MIKE are you out there i been trying to get a hold of you for weeks now?

the price you gave me is for the 94 96 wrx ecu board, $2200 is in us dollers right? if so i want to talk with you on ordering it and when i could come pick it up and when your going to be in at your shop if i need to give you a deposit?

Innovative Tuning · Post by **Innovative Tuning** » Sat May 19, 2007 1:20 am

Hey man sorry we've been missing each other. I'm in and out tuning 2-3 cars a day this time of year. Today it was a turbo Honda that kept overheating so I had to wait for it to cool down constantly, and an FP Red STi with a Hydra that had a number of customer inflicted issues like shooting power steering fluid, loose/missing grounds, etc. so I wasn't at my desk much.

Yes my pricing is all in USD. If you'd like to order one I do require a deposit of half since people aren't exactly buying those up like Walbro fuel pumps so I don't stock them. You can give a call Monday-Friday 10-6 and leave your info and a deposit with Jay or Justin if I'm not available at the moment. If you have any questions by all means shoot me an e-mail and I'll be happy to get back to you.

tuning@InnovativeTuning.com

btw check out the Aim Sports Pista dash I'm running with the Autronic:

-Mike

NICO · Post by **NICO** » Sat May 19, 2007 2:13 am

wow that thing is sick, mike you cant show me things like that becuse i am going to go broke lol.

mike could you send me a total price for the unit pm me for it so i can exchange canadian money to us money, then this weekend or monday i will come to your shop and pay for the unit in full so i can get this thing asap!!

its a done deal i am getting it of you 100% see you soon.

NICO · Post by **NICO** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:39 pm

Mike at Innovative Tuning TWO THUMBS UP A++++++, nice friendly guy that knows his stuff.

thanks for letting me see all the crazy subarus you got and the HUGE shop.

mike maybe if the ecu is in on time as your comeing over this side of the boarder, i might need your services as well for tuning it also.

if your not booked like crazy with the other shops your going to in my area, shit you could park at my house and i could drive and you tune while i take you to the shops you need to go to for your next job. save gas and your relaxed and i pay you LOL.

Innovative Tuning · Post by **Innovative Tuning** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:53 pm

Hey man nice meeting you too. Your impreza looks awesome. I was planning to leave mine stock appearing, but yours looks so badass I might have to get a new bumper and whatnot. Very cool setup with the EJ22T bottom end, EJ20k heads, APS FMIC etc.

I just left you a PM about the ECU and I'll get back to you tomorrow after we hear from Australia. If our schedules don't mesh for delivering the ECU while I'm up in Canada tuning I'll just express it to you at no charge.

-Mike

gto7419 · Post by **gto7419** » Wed May 23, 2007 5:26 am

Innovative Tuning wrote:
btw check out the Aim Sports Pista dash I'm running with the Autronic:

-Mike

Hehe, that thing looked so familiar at first glance. Same company as the mychron I use on my shifterkart

. aim makes some awesome stuff.

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