Clutch Problems... Big Time!

smh0101 · Post by **smh0101** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:06 am

When I swapped the motor yesterday, I did my best to put the clutch disc dead center...

However, its all back together... And not working well

The pedal comes all the way up like it should, however the clutch, when engaging, chatters. And only the last (closest to the floor) 1.5 inches of pedal travel have any effect.

Any thoughts?

Did I not get it aligned right?

PhyrraM · Post by **PhyrraM** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:35 am

If you got the engine and the transmission together, you got it lined up OK.

Did you use the same exact flywheel, pressure plate and disc? If so, then you are probably just at the end of the clutches life.

Try bleeding it?

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:36 am

Did you grease the snout of the transaxle?

smh0101 · Post by **smh0101** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:43 am

The clutch is damn near brand new...

And Nick... No... You mean the end of the input shaft?

smh0101 · Post by **smh0101** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:43 am

And yeah, same exact everything.

Post by **Legacy777** » Tue May 06, 2008 8:24 pm

How well did you clean the clutch disc, pp, & flywheel.

Chances are you got oil on it when the engine blew...and could be the cause of the chatter.

smh0101 · Post by **smh0101** » Wed May 07, 2008 6:00 am

Um... I didnt... it all seemed very dry.

Is it a possibility that I put the disc in backwards?

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Wed May 07, 2008 6:11 am

smh0101 wrote:
And Nick... No... You mean the end of the input shaft?

No...I don't mean the input shaft.

The snout of the tranny is what surrounds the input shaft...where the throughout bearing rides. If it isn't greased the clutch will be very difficult to modulate

smh0101 · Post by **smh0101** » Wed May 07, 2008 6:16 am

Ah, gotcha... No I didnt grease anything...

I'm betting I installed it wrong, and since I have to pull the motor again anyways... I dont really car, I'll figure it out... I guess.

But is it possible that I accidentally reversed the disc?

PhyrraM · Post by **PhyrraM** » Wed May 07, 2008 6:18 am

Don't think so. I believe there is enough offset on the disc to prevent the pressure plate from going on if the disc is reversed.

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Wed May 07, 2008 6:20 am

The grease part is vitally important...

If you don't believe me, call Dale and he will tell you the same thing

smh0101 · Post by **smh0101** » Wed May 07, 2008 7:55 am

Well, the clutch pedal moves like normal... Its just the clutch engagment is horrible.

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Wed May 07, 2008 8:08 am

smh0101 wrote:Well, the clutch pedal moves like normal... Its just the clutch engagment is horrible.

Yep...the precise symptoms of not greasing the snout

smh0101 · Post by **smh0101** » Wed May 07, 2008 8:20 am

I really feel stupid right now but I'm still having trouble figuring out what the snout is...

There is the bell housing that mounts to the engine... and within said housing is the clutch which connects to the flywheel, then the input shaft that goes into the clutch assembly... Now on said shaft there are splines, but also on there is a smooth round shaft at the end. Is that the snout?

PhyrraM · Post by **PhyrraM** » Wed May 07, 2008 9:38 am

The snout is the part that has the throwout bearing on it, you can see a thin layer of red grease on it in the pic.

smh0101 · Post by **smh0101** » Wed May 07, 2008 3:07 pm

OH! cool, gotcha...

But um, when I separated the engine from tranny, that part stayed with the engine... Is that bad?

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Wed May 07, 2008 5:10 pm

smh0101 wrote:OH! cool, gotcha...

But um, when I separated the engine from tranny, that part stayed with the engine... Is that bad?

No, it is supposed to...

BUT GREASE THE SNOUT!

smh0101 · Post by **smh0101** » Wed May 07, 2008 5:18 pm

Okay, will do...

Thanks.

Nick did you see my latest posts in the engine thread?

555BCTurbo · Post by **555BCTurbo** » Wed May 07, 2008 5:22 pm

Nooo...I will look

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Clutch Problems... Big Time!

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