3' exhaust group buy

[laser158754@yahoo.com]

More info please? Sure!
Subspeed website?www.subspeed.org
Subspeed location? Bristol, TN
High flow cat? 3" random tech cat in downpipe
Bolt on replacement? It would be full exhaust system. So, pretty much.
Subspeed experience in fabricating similar? Check out their website,
he has our same car too!
Your experience with Subspeed? None at all.

If anyone wants, it is possible to keep the wastegate gasses seperate
for a bit down the downpipe, the cost would just be more. Right now,
I'm still gauging interest. Any others interested?
-Zak


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[ssspoon@aol.com]

Hey Zak,

Your additional info is interesting

Subspeed website is interesting

I didn't see a Turbo Legacy on the website, you said he has our same car too,
though I believe he is well qualified for an exhaust fabrication project.

A group buy might save me from getting a custom job on my own and a few extra dollars. I'm also reluctant to shell out to the Big Name Advertisers just because they have stuff ready to go. Subspeed just might be the kind of organization with a lot of experience, but without the big slick magazine names with big prices to support their big advertising budget, I've been looking for. I have seen their website, but didn't stay long because it was all the older EA stuff. For me the bonus would be not having my car held hostage while a custom shop figures out how to make what I want.

I like the Random Tech cats. What choices do we have for mufflers?

Thanks for the turn on Zak, I'm interested in prices. Keep it going.

Larry Witherspoon
Torrance (Los Angeles)
92 Turbo Legacy
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[Jay Erlenbach]

Depending on price I am very interested

Jay Erlenbach
92 Legacy Turbo Sedan (US Spec)


--- laser158754@yahoo.com wrote:
> More info please? Sure!
> Subspeed website?www.subspeed.org
> Subspeed location? Bristol, TN
> High flow cat? 3" random tech cat in downpipe
> Bolt on replacement? It would be full exhaust
> system. So, pretty much.
> Subspeed experience in fabricating similar? Check
> out their website,
> he has our same car too!
> Your experience with Subspeed? None at all.
>
> If anyone wants, it is possible to keep the
> wastegate gasses seperate
> for a bit down the downpipe, the cost would just be
> more. Right now,
> I'm still gauging interest. Any others interested?
> -Zak
>
>


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I am also very interested... but...price is the key word for me right now


Jay Erlenbach <legacy_productions@yahoo.com> wrote:


Depending on price I am very interested

Jay Erlenbach
92 Legacy Turbo Sedan (US Spec)


--- laser158754@yahoo.com wrote:
> More info please? Sure!
> Subspeed website?www.subspeed.org
> Subspeed location? Bristol, TN
> High flow cat? 3" random tech cat in downpipe
> Bolt on replacement? It would be full exhaust
> system. So, pretty much.
> Subspeed experience in fabricating similar? Check
> out their website,
> he has our same car too!
> Your experience with Subspeed? None at all.
>
> If anyone wants, it is possible to keep the
> wastegate gasses seperate
> for a bit down the downpipe, the cost would just be
> more. Right now,
> I'm still gauging interest. Any others interested?
> -Zak
>
>


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[czo79@hotmail.com]

Is there still any chance of this happening? I would be very
interested.
THanks
Micum

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., ssspoon@a... wrote:
> Hey Zak,
>
> Your additional info is interesting
>
> Subspeed website is interesting
>
> I didn't see a Turbo Legacy on the website, you said he has our
same car too,
>
> though I believe he is well qualified for an exhaust fabrication
project.
>
> A group buy might save me from getting a custom job on my own and a
few extra
> dollars. I'm also reluctant to shell out to the Big Name
Advertisers just
> because they have stuff ready to go. Subspeed just might be the
kind of
> organization with a lot of experience, but without the big slick
magazine
> names with big prices to support their big advertising budget, I've
been
> looking for. I have seen their website, but didn't stay long
because it was
> all the older EA stuff. For me the bonus would be not having my
car held
> hostage while a custom shop figures out how to make what I want.
>
> I like the Random Tech cats. What choices do we have for mufflers?
>
> Thanks for the turn on Zak, I'm interested in prices. Keep it
going.
>
> Larry Witherspoon
> Torrance (Los Angeles)
> 92 Turbo Legacy


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[laser158754@yahoo.com]

Yes there is, only it is going to most likely happen in a month or
two. I will give plenty of warning before then as well, for everyone
who is interested.
-Zak





--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., czo79@h... wrote:
> Is there still any chance of this happening? I would be very
> interested.
> THanks
> Micum
>



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[laser158754]

Just got this from Russ, we're on the way!!

Zak:

That sounds pretty good to me. The dump style pipe will be a lot
easier to build especially when there are several in a row to make.
A 'B' pipe with and without cat will be no problem. I had intended to
offer that option anyway (I don't run cats either). It is possible
that a resonator might be substituted for a converter. I''ll look
into it.
Stock location on the O2 is no problem.
The muffler I have my eye on is a DynoMax unit with 3 inch internal
passages. It will probably have to be modified to fit the car much
like the proposed unit for the Loyales. It is difficult to find a
reversing style muffler that has large internal passages that will
fit under a Subaru. The units that I have been looking into are RV
mufflers so they are fairly long. It is easier to find straight
through mufflers that are suitable but I realize not everyone wants
that kind of noise level all the time.
I am going to estimate the price of the downpipe to be $325. I have
not priced the material yet but this should be close. I estimate it
based on the pipe for the EA82T and an increase for the larger tubing
and elbows. However, this is not a price quote. You can estimate the
rest of the system based on pipe complexity and what you want
included. A non-resonated non-catalyst 'B' pipe would be fairly
inexpensive because there is little there. If you add a resonator you
pretty much add the cost of the unit; likewise with a catalyst. The
muffler depends on how much work will be required to modify a muffler
to fit the car. A straight through design would probably be cheaper
since I doubt there would be any meed to modify the muffler for use
in the system.
All of this will be done in aluminized mild steel with HP Coatings
exhaust coating applied to all pipes inside and out. Mufflers are
coated on the outside only (I belive). I am not sure about
converters. I think they coat the pipes up to the converter but leave
the converter itself alone even on the outside. Converter shells are
usually stainless due to the intense operating temperatures of the
converter.
Stainless steel is difficult to drill and grind. Since everything I
do is by hand I prefer to work in mild steel. Mild steel is perfectly
acceptable for exhaust applications especially when properly coated.
Stainless is fantastic but is expensive and can be prone to cracking.
The type 304 and 409 stainless steels that are commonly used for
exhaust are more resistant to this problem but it still exists. Mild
steel earned its reputation for corrosion in part due to the
tetraethyl lead in leaded gasoline that formed an acid in the exhaust
and literally ate the systems from the inside out (See 'How to Build
and Modify Intake and Exhaust Systems' by Ben Watson published by
Motorbooks International page 126 3rd paragraph under 'Materials').
Since unleaded fuel is the norm and has been for quite some time the
problem has been reduced.

Regards,
Russ



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[abs526]

The way I see it is if you want quiet stay with the stock exhuast.
I've heard a WRX with a pipe for an exhuast, and it wasnt even that
loud. You dont need to worry about an H4 making people's ears
bleed. Our stock muffler location would allow around an 18" or so
straight through muffler. This would actually be pretty quiet. I've
actually been looking into borla XR-1 racing mufflers, and if you
were to go with the "S" style muffler I think i'd have to make my own
rear section. At that point, I'd just think about doing the whole
thing myself. How much was that downpipe? I think a stainless MRT
one with no cat is like $299 or so right? Well, it looks like
frankenstein exhuast is still going to be the best solution for me.
What's the most important thing to me from my exhuast? Power first.
Sound second. Everything else is third. I dont know what a dynomax
sounds like on a subie, but they made the toyota and focus i heard
them on sound like crap. My options are slim though, and if the
price/features are right i'd still consider this exhuast i guess.
But paying a lot for mild steel also doesnt settle quite right....
-Andy


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