intercoolers + turbos

[Todd Munson]

I'd like to do an intercooler setup at some point. I'm not opposed to
a air/water setup but I am leaning towards a air/air top mount. I
think that some of the wrx stock top mount intercoolers fit, is this
true? If so, are any modifications required to make the stock wrx
intercooler and piping fit on a legacy? Finally I've seen some deals
on MY02 wrx intercoolers, will these fit? I've heard they are quite a
nice peice.

Turbos.
I've just started researching but this is something to think about too.
As above, will wrx turbos bolt to legacy exhaust manifolds and
downpipes?

Thanks
Todd

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[Doug Hancock]

The problem with puting an intercooler on top like a wrx is that you will
get no power from a set of traffic lights really fast. Maily because there
is no air passing through while siting waiting for the lights to go green so
you can kick the cars a$$ next to you. It gathers up to much heat and when
you stand on the gas you get a sudden rush of hot air thet the engine has
produced under the bonnet as well. This is the problem with WRX's and not
liberty's. I have an article some were that is about all of this. They
turned the WXR unit into a air to water unit and the temperature stayed a
lot cooler while not on the go and had identical temp while they uped it.
With the smaller scoop on the liberty (legacy I would be more inclined to
leave the air to water unit. The other option I would go for would be to
wind the boost up a couple of psi and fit a front mount intercooler, at
least when your siting at those lights your fan kicks in and drags some air
through to keep it a bit cooler. Lots of dollars though. I will try to find
the article and try and explain it to you, or I will put it on my web page
which I have not given out the address yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Munson [mailto:todd_munson1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, 7 December 2001 11:26 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] intercoolers + turbos


I'd like to do an intercooler setup at some point. I'm not opposed to
a air/water setup but I am leaning towards a air/air top mount. I
think that some of the wrx stock top mount intercoolers fit, is this
true? If so, are any modifications required to make the stock wrx
intercooler and piping fit on a legacy? Finally I've seen some deals
on MY02 wrx intercoolers, will these fit? I've heard they are quite a
nice peice.

Turbos.
I've just started researching but this is something to think about too.
As above, will wrx turbos bolt to legacy exhaust manifolds and
downpipes?

Thanks
Todd

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[milehial2000]

Todd, I think the article was in AutoSpeed of au
AL(CO)


--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
> The problem with puting an intercooler on top like a wrx is that you
will
> get no power from a set of traffic lights really fast. Maily because
there
> is no air passing through while siting waiting for the lights to go
green so
> you can kick the cars a$$ next to you. It gathers up to much heat
and when
> you stand on the gas you get a sudden rush of hot air thet the
engine has
> produced under the bonnet as well. This is the problem with WRX's
and not
> liberty's. I have an article some were that is about all of this.
They
> turned the WXR unit into a air to water unit and the temperature
stayed a
> lot cooler while not on the go and had identical temp while they
uped it.
> With the smaller scoop on the liberty (legacy I would be more
inclined to
> leave the air to water unit. The other option I would go for would
be to
> wind the boost up a couple of psi and fit a front mount intercooler,
at
> least when your siting at those lights your fan kicks in and drags
some air
> through to keep it a bit cooler. Lots of dollars though. I will try
to find
> the article and try and explain it to you, or I will put it on my
web page
> which I have not given out the address yet.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Munson [mailto:todd_munson1@y...]
> Sent: Friday, 7 December 2001 11:26 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] intercoolers + turbos
>
>
> I'd like to do an intercooler setup at some point. I'm not opposed
to
> a air/water setup but I am leaning towards a air/air top mount. I
> think that some of the wrx stock top mount intercoolers fit, is this
> true? If so, are any modifications required to make the stock wrx
> intercooler and piping fit on a legacy? Finally I've seen some
deals
> on MY02 wrx intercoolers, will these fit? I've heard they are quite
a
> nice peice.
>
> Turbos.
> I've just started researching but this is something to think about
too.
> As above, will wrx turbos bolt to legacy exhaust manifolds and
> downpipes?
>
> Thanks
> Todd
>
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[Josh Colombo]

If you add a front mount, you're going to add alot more turbo lag due to
more piping, plus it's ALOT of customizing work to get a front mount to
work.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Hancock [mailto:Doug_hancock@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 63 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] intercoolers + turbos


The problem with puting an intercooler on top like a wrx is that you
will
get no power from a set of traffic lights really fast. Maily because
there
is no air passing through while siting waiting for the lights to go
green so
you can kick the cars a$$ next to you. It gathers up to much heat and
when
you stand on the gas you get a sudden rush of hot air thet the engine
has
produced under the bonnet as well. This is the problem with WRX's and
not
liberty's. I have an article some were that is about all of this. They
turned the WXR unit into a air to water unit and the temperature stayed
a
lot cooler while not on the go and had identical temp while they uped
it.
With the smaller scoop on the liberty (legacy I would be more inclined
to
leave the air to water unit. The other option I would go for would be to
wind the boost up a couple of psi and fit a front mount intercooler, at
least when your siting at those lights your fan kicks in and drags some
air
through to keep it a bit cooler. Lots of dollars though. I will try to
find
the article and try and explain it to you, or I will put it on my web
page
which I have not given out the address yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Munson [mailto:todd_munson1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, 7 December 2001 11:26 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] intercoolers + turbos


I'd like to do an intercooler setup at some point. I'm not opposed to
a air/water setup but I am leaning towards a air/air top mount. I
think that some of the wrx stock top mount intercoolers fit, is this
true? If so, are any modifications required to make the stock wrx
intercooler and piping fit on a legacy? Finally I've seen some deals
on MY02 wrx intercoolers, will these fit? I've heard they are quite a
nice peice.

Turbos.
I've just started researching but this is something to think about too.
As above, will wrx turbos bolt to legacy exhaust manifolds and
downpipes?

Thanks
Todd

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[Doug Hancock]

Nope I think it was in a mag called Zoom or Hot 4's. If it was in Zoom it
would have most likely been on Autospeed because one ownes the other, don't
know which way around. I will have a look for the articlel.

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[ob1poor]

i don't know if it's the same article you all are talking about but i
know for a fact that autospeed has a very good article on air/air and
air/water intercoolers and even a bit of a how to. i'll do a search
on autospeed here in a bit and try and get it... well actually i
have the pdf already downloaded. if someone wants to tell me how i
can put it in the files i'll gladly upload it.



--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
> Nope I think it was in a mag called Zoom or Hot 4's. If it was in
Zoom it
> would have most likely been on Autospeed because one ownes the
other, don't
> know which way around. I will have a look for the articlel.
>
> Regards Doug (Newcastle Australia)


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[ob1poor]

ok, i figured it out. it's in the file section. but shhh... don't
tell autospeed...

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "ob1poor" <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> i don't know if it's the same article you all are talking about but
i
> know for a fact that autospeed has a very good article on air/air
and
> air/water intercoolers and even a bit of a how to. i'll do a
search
> on autospeed here in a bit and try and get it... well actually i
> have the pdf already downloaded. if someone wants to tell me how i
> can put it in the files i'll gladly upload it.
>
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
> wrote:
> > Nope I think it was in a mag called Zoom or Hot 4's. If it was in
> Zoom it
> > would have most likely been on Autospeed because one ownes the
> other, don't
> > know which way around. I will have a look for the articlel.
> >
> > Regards Doug (Newcastle Australia)


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[jason grahn]

I'm going to debate this. True, it will require a lot more customizing, but
adding a front mount will not nessacarily add a lot more turbo lag.

If you customize it correctly: that is - correct sizes with piping,
intercooler, turbo, fuel system, etc.; your lag will be minimal, almost
negligible. Again, lots of customizing, but your lag can be tuned out.

-Jason


>From: "Josh Colombo" <josh@surrealmirage.com>
>If you add a front mount, you're going to add alot more turbo lag due to
>more piping, plus it's ALOT of customizing work to get a front mount to
>work.
>
>Josh Colombo


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[stu_j_ure]

read these articles

http://www.autospeed.com/A_0084/page1.html


--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...> wrote:
> I'm going to debate this. True, it will require a lot more
customizing, but
> adding a front mount will not nessacarily add a lot more turbo lag.
>
> If you customize it correctly: that is - correct sizes with piping,
> intercooler, turbo, fuel system, etc.; your lag will be minimal,
almost
> negligible. Again, lots of customizing, but your lag can be tuned
out.
>
> -Jason
>
>
> >From: "Josh Colombo" <josh@s...>
> >If you add a front mount, you're going to add alot more turbo lag
due to
> >more piping, plus it's ALOT of customizing work to get a front
mount to
> >work.
> >
> >Josh Colombo
>
>
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[Doug Hancock]

Yeh not the one I was thinking of so I will have to find it. It will take
some time though. In the mean time I will have a read of this article.

-----Original Message-----
From: stu_j_ure [mailto:stu@fluidmedia.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2001 4:51 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: intercoolers + turbos


read these articles

http://www.autospeed.com/A_0084/page1.html


--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...> wrote:
> I'm going to debate this. True, it will require a lot more
customizing, but
> adding a front mount will not nessacarily add a lot more turbo lag.
>
> If you customize it correctly: that is - correct sizes with piping,
> intercooler, turbo, fuel system, etc.; your lag will be minimal,
almost
> negligible. Again, lots of customizing, but your lag can be tuned
out.
>
> -Jason
>
>
> >From: "Josh Colombo" <josh@s...>
> >If you add a front mount, you're going to add alot more turbo lag
due to
> >more piping, plus it's ALOT of customizing work to get a front
mount to
> >work.
> >
> >Josh Colombo
>
>
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Read thease To http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~gavinp/airwater.htm
----- Original Message -----
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To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:50 AM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: intercoolers + turbos


> read these articles
>
> http://www.autospeed.com/A_0084/page1.html
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...> wrote:
> > I'm going to debate this. True, it will require a lot more
> customizing, but
> > adding a front mount will not nessacarily add a lot more turbo lag.
> >
> > If you customize it correctly: that is - correct sizes with piping,
> > intercooler, turbo, fuel system, etc.; your lag will be minimal,
> almost
> > negligible. Again, lots of customizing, but your lag can be tuned
> out.
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> >
> > >From: "Josh Colombo" <josh@s...>
> > >If you add a front mount, you're going to add alot more turbo lag
> due to
> > >more piping, plus it's ALOT of customizing work to get a front
> mount to
> > >work.
> > >
> > >Josh Colombo
> >
> >
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