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hillclimber42 · Post by **hillclimber42** » Mon Dec 17, 2001 9:03 pm

Hi fellow Subie nuts,

I am new to the list, and was hoping I could get some info regarding
gear set's for a 94 Turbo Legacy seadan (5-sp). I am builing a
hillclimb/autocross car for fun, but the stock gearing is too high.
The car bogs out of slow corners, so I was hoping to find a gearset
from another model that I could put in my car.

The key is I want to stay within SCCA rules so that I could maybe
even do some rallying with it. I believe I can use a another set as
long as it was used on another model.

So, does anyone know of some swaps that I can consider? I heard 4.4
gears out of an outback would work, but does that break the rules?
Any other ratio's from the same vintage car...wagon....auto???

Thanks for all help.

John

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Nutter Kam · Post by **Nutter Kam** » Mon Dec 17, 2001 9:13 pm

I have a bog standard 1.8GL wagon as well as a GT wagon and the gears on the 1.8 are much much shorter than the GT. In fact, it is aguable that the 1.8 is more fun to drive if considering the gear shifting action. This gearbox might be suitable although the dual range gearbox might present other probs. Best ask a Scooby performance place.

Kam

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Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!

Hi fellow Subie nuts,

I am new to the list, and was hoping I could get some info regarding
gear set's for a 94 Turbo Legacy seadan (5-sp). I am builing a
hillclimb/autocross car for fun, but the stock gearing is too high.
The car bogs out of slow corners, so I was hoping to find a gearset
from another model that I could put in my car.

The key is I want to stay within SCCA rules so that I could maybe
even do some rallying with it. I believe I can use a another set as
long as it was used on another model.

So, does anyone know of some swaps that I can consider? I heard 4.4
gears out of an outback would work, but does that break the rules?
Any other ratio's from the same vintage car...wagon....auto???

Thanks for all help.

John

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jason grahn · Post by **jason grahn** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 10:39 am

John-

>From my understanding after working with a couple teams who race in the SCCA
Pro-Rally championship in open class imprezas is that the 4.44 is legal to
swap in. Not only that, but it gets you out of that troublesome 2nd gear
that likes to blow up. I don't know too much about the hillclimb or
autocross rules; you'll want to check with the respective administrations on
those.

What area are you in?

-Jason

>From: "hillclimber42" <hillclimber42@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:58:55 -0000
>
>Hi fellow Subie nuts,
>
>I am new to the list, and was hoping I could get some info regarding
>gear set's for a 94 Turbo Legacy seadan (5-sp). I am builing a
>hillclimb/autocross car for fun, but the stock gearing is too high.
>The car bogs out of slow corners, so I was hoping to find a gearset
>from another model that I could put in my car.
>
>The key is I want to stay within SCCA rules so that I could maybe
>even do some rallying with it. I believe I can use a another set as
>long as it was used on another model.
>
>So, does anyone know of some swaps that I can consider? I heard 4.4
>gears out of an outback would work, but does that break the rules?
>Any other ratio's from the same vintage car...wagon....auto???
>
>Thanks for all help.
>
>John
>
>

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Mark Ward · Post by **Mark Ward** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 11:22 am

Even the 4.11 out of the automatics are better then stock.
Mark
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John-

>From my understanding after working with a couple teams who race in the
SCCA
Pro-Rally championship in open class imprezas is that the 4.44 is legal to
swap in. Not only that, but it gets you out of that troublesome 2nd gear
that likes to blow up. I don't know too much about the hillclimb or
autocross rules; you'll want to check with the respective administrations on
those.

What area are you in?

-Jason

>From: "hillclimber42" <hillclimber42@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:58:55 -0000
>
>Hi fellow Subie nuts,
>
>I am new to the list, and was hoping I could get some info regarding
>gear set's for a 94 Turbo Legacy seadan (5-sp). I am builing a
>hillclimb/autocross car for fun, but the stock gearing is too high.
>The car bogs out of slow corners, so I was hoping to find a gearset
>from another model that I could put in my car.
>
>The key is I want to stay within SCCA rules so that I could maybe
>even do some rallying with it. I believe I can use a another set as
>long as it was used on another model.
>
>So, does anyone know of some swaps that I can consider? I heard 4.4
>gears out of an outback would work, but does that break the rules?
>Any other ratio's from the same vintage car...wagon....auto???
>
>Thanks for all help.
>
>John
>
>

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John Grywul · Post by **John Grywul** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 12:52 pm

Thanks for all the advise guy's!

I was hoping to run in a production class of some sort. It will be hard
enough to run against the production WRX's, but I know they have a weak
tranny. My 94 has updated synchros, and I run redline oil in everything.
The car should be able to run with a production WRX, especially if I can
push it into tranny failure

I realize the car will only be competitve in a production class with a
minimum of upgrades. I want to stay within budget, and still have a decent
car. If I like rallying, then I will probably look at a prepped car, or I
will build mine for the PG-t class (is that the production class?) I would
only race "fast rallies" because the acceleration is not great, it's a big
car, BUT it is so stable at speed that it becomes competive as the average
speed increases...this is what I have noticed in the autocrosses.

That is why i was looking at a final drive swap to something that would
accelerate the car better. Power is the other way to accelerate but since
the car isn't intercooled, she get's a bit hot! I have boost at about 11
psi, but the temps are getting to high for my liking if boost is any higher.
I have to look for acceleration else where.

Anyway, will the 4.44 gears from the Outback be legal in production class?
If not, does the 4.11 gears from an auto work? Does the auto and manual
have the same front diff?

Any suspension advise? I hear KYB's are pretty good, but I don't know if
you could rally with them.

I would prefer to build for rally spec, then see what else I can race. I am
originally from Canada, but now make Virginia home. (Sounds like there's a
lot of you out west! I should have moved to the other side.

Thanks

John

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Josh Colombo · Post by **Josh Colombo** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 2:35 pm

Well key to winning is not neccessarily fastest car. You could have fastest car, but if you can't keep it on the road it's useless. So driving smooth is far more important. As you said the Legacy is very smooth on speed. If you can retain speed through cornering and such, you will be faster overall.

As for the KYB's. If you can use them. I would suggest the AGX's, which are adjustable. Also I would recommend upgrading the rear anti-sway bar to put a little more balance back into the car. You can get a larger bar from a later model GT or outback. Also replacing the front drop-links (OEM) will help out steering input and such. Dave did this mod and he was very happy with the results. I've yet to do this.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tue 12/18/2001 11:47 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!

Thanks for all the advise guy's!

I was hoping to run in a production class of some sort. It will be hard
enough to run against the production WRX's, but I know they have a weak
tranny. My 94 has updated synchros, and I run redline oil in everything.
The car should be able to run with a production WRX, especially if I can
push it into tranny failure

I realize the car will only be competitve in a production class with a
minimum of upgrades. I want to stay within budget, and still have a decent
car. If I like rallying, then I will probably look at a prepped car, or I
will build mine for the PG-t class (is that the production class?) I would
only race "fast rallies" because the acceleration is not great, it's a big
car, BUT it is so stable at speed that it becomes competive as the average
speed increases...this is what I have noticed in the autocrosses.

That is why i was looking at a final drive swap to something that would
accelerate the car better. Power is the other way to accelerate but since
the car isn't intercooled, she get's a bit hot! I have boost at about 11
psi, but the temps are getting to high for my liking if boost is any higher.
I have to look for acceleration else where.

Anyway, will the 4.44 gears from the Outback be legal in production class?
If not, does the 4.11 gears from an auto work? Does the auto and manual
have the same front diff?

Any suspension advise? I hear KYB's are pretty good, but I don't know if
you could rally with them.

I would prefer to build for rally spec, then see what else I can race. I am
originally from Canada, but now make Virginia home. (Sounds like there's a
lot of you out west! I should have moved to the other side.

Thanks

John

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Rabin James · Post by **Rabin James** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 8:46 pm

Welcome to the list John.

Mark, myself and possibly you are the only ones running Legacy's as
Performance Rally cars. (Anyone else?) Mark runs a Group N Legacy with a
EJ20T (!!!), And I am a Crew Chief for Dave Kozegi who runs a Production 4
Legacy.

I have to agree with the statements you've made about the Legacy. The car
is very competitive on fast courses, but it lacks the power to deal with the
very best. The last race we were in, a lttle 323GTX (Januz) was
untouchable. Our car has beaten him before, but rarely on equal terms. If
we beat him, odds were that he dnf'd. Our car has been very reliable with
not one DNF the whole season.

Plans are up in the air for next year but hopefully we'll make it down to
the states for a couple rallies. Anybody have any info on running the North
American Cup?

Anyway, I am curious about the gearing question myself. With rally tires,
and slow corners, the car bogs like crazy. Not enough power to spin the
wheels, and too tall gearing to take advantage of the power we do have.
Fast sweepers Josh is right, it flies!!

If you have any questions, this is definitely the place to ask them.

Rabin
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Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!

> Well key to winning is not neccessarily fastest car. You could have
fastest car, but if you can't keep it on the road it's useless. So driving
smooth is far more important. As you said the Legacy is very smooth on
speed. If you can retain speed through cornering and such, you will be
faster overall.
>
>
>
> As for the KYB's. If you can use them. I would suggest the AGX's, which
are adjustable. Also I would recommend upgrading the rear anti-sway bar to
put a little more balance back into the car. You can get a larger bar from
a later model GT or outback. Also replacing the front drop-links (OEM) will
help out steering input and such. Dave did this mod and he was very happy
with the results. I've yet to do this.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: John Grywul [mailto:hillclimber42@hotmail.com]
>
> Sent: Tue 12/18/2001 11:47 AM
>
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>
> Cc:
>
> Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for all the advise guy's!
>
>
>
> I was hoping to run in a production class of some sort. It will be hard
>
> enough to run against the production WRX's, but I know they have a weak
>
> tranny. My 94 has updated synchros, and I run redline oil in everything.
>
> The car should be able to run with a production WRX, especially if I can
>
> push it into tranny failure

>
>
>
> I realize the car will only be competitve in a production class with a
>
> minimum of upgrades. I want to stay within budget, and still have a
decent
>
> car. If I like rallying, then I will probably look at a prepped car, or I
>
> will build mine for the PG-t class (is that the production class?) I
would
>
> only race "fast rallies" because the acceleration is not great, it's a big
>
> car, BUT it is so stable at speed that it becomes competive as the average
>
> speed increases...this is what I have noticed in the autocrosses.
>
>
>
> That is why i was looking at a final drive swap to something that would
>
> accelerate the car better. Power is the other way to accelerate but since
>
> the car isn't intercooled, she get's a bit hot! I have boost at about 11
>
> psi, but the temps are getting to high for my liking if boost is any
higher.
>
> I have to look for acceleration else where.
>
>
>
> Anyway, will the 4.44 gears from the Outback be legal in production class?
>
> If not, does the 4.11 gears from an auto work? Does the auto and manual
>
> have the same front diff?
>
>
>
> Any suspension advise? I hear KYB's are pretty good, but I don't know if
>
> you could rally with them.
>
>
>
> I would prefer to build for rally spec, then see what else I can race. I
am
>
> originally from Canada, but now make Virginia home. (Sounds like there's a
>
> lot of you out west! I should have moved to the other side.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Mark Ward · Post by **Mark Ward** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 9:16 pm

4.11 is not legal for production class, you are stuck with 3.90 sadly. On
the very fast stages at Bighorn Rally last year I managed to pull 2 3rd
fastest times with a stock legacy with good suspension but in the tight
stages, I was lost, not enough power. This is why I converted to N4 to get
kick ass power in a "production" car.

I use Tein suspension but we (my car builder and I) are trying to build a
new suspension using bilstien insets and a modified version of suspension we
saw on a wrc car (modify to fit the legacy/impreza). We will see how this
goes. Factory STI rally springs are rear 173/184/195 lb springs and front
are 218/229/240 lb springs for everyones info(snow/gravel/hard gravel).

Understanding of course the 323 was very developed car, maybe over
overdeveloped for Production class.

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From: Rabin James [mailto:rabinjames@sk.sympatico.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:39 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!

Welcome to the list John.

Mark, myself and possibly you are the only ones running Legacy's as
Performance Rally cars. (Anyone else?) Mark runs a Group N Legacy with a
EJ20T (!!!), And I am a Crew Chief for Dave Kozegi who runs a Production 4
Legacy.

I have to agree with the statements you've made about the Legacy. The car
is very competitive on fast courses, but it lacks the power to deal with the
very best. The last race we were in, a lttle 323GTX (Januz) was
untouchable. Our car has beaten him before, but rarely on equal terms. If
we beat him, odds were that he dnf'd. Our car has been very reliable with
not one DNF the whole season.

Plans are up in the air for next year but hopefully we'll make it down to
the states for a couple rallies. Anybody have any info on running the North
American Cup?

Anyway, I am curious about the gearing question myself. With rally tires,
and slow corners, the car bogs like crazy. Not enough power to spin the
wheels, and too tall gearing to take advantage of the power we do have.
Fast sweepers Josh is right, it flies!!

If you have any questions, this is definitely the place to ask them.

Rabin
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From: "Josh Colombo" <josh@surrealmirage.com>
To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!

> Well key to winning is not neccessarily fastest car. You could have
fastest car, but if you can't keep it on the road it's useless. So driving
smooth is far more important. As you said the Legacy is very smooth on
speed. If you can retain speed through cornering and such, you will be
faster overall.
>
>
>
> As for the KYB's. If you can use them. I would suggest the AGX's, which
are adjustable. Also I would recommend upgrading the rear anti-sway bar to
put a little more balance back into the car. You can get a larger bar from
a later model GT or outback. Also replacing the front drop-links (OEM) will
help out steering input and such. Dave did this mod and he was very happy
with the results. I've yet to do this.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: John Grywul [mailto:hillclimber42@hotmail.com]
>
> Sent: Tue 12/18/2001 11:47 AM
>
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>
> Cc:
>
> Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for all the advise guy's!
>
>
>
> I was hoping to run in a production class of some sort. It will be hard
>
> enough to run against the production WRX's, but I know they have a weak
>
> tranny. My 94 has updated synchros, and I run redline oil in everything.
>
> The car should be able to run with a production WRX, especially if I can
>
> push it into tranny failure

>
>
>
> I realize the car will only be competitve in a production class with a
>
> minimum of upgrades. I want to stay within budget, and still have a
decent
>
> car. If I like rallying, then I will probably look at a prepped car, or I
>
> will build mine for the PG-t class (is that the production class?) I
would
>
> only race "fast rallies" because the acceleration is not great, it's a big
>
> car, BUT it is so stable at speed that it becomes competive as the average
>
> speed increases...this is what I have noticed in the autocrosses.
>
>
>
> That is why i was looking at a final drive swap to something that would
>
> accelerate the car better. Power is the other way to accelerate but since
>
> the car isn't intercooled, she get's a bit hot! I have boost at about 11
>
> psi, but the temps are getting to high for my liking if boost is any
higher.
>
> I have to look for acceleration else where.
>
>
>
> Anyway, will the 4.44 gears from the Outback be legal in production class?
>
> If not, does the 4.11 gears from an auto work? Does the auto and manual
>
> have the same front diff?
>
>
>
> Any suspension advise? I hear KYB's are pretty good, but I don't know if
>
> you could rally with them.
>
>
>
> I would prefer to build for rally spec, then see what else I can race. I
am
>
> originally from Canada, but now make Virginia home. (Sounds like there's a
>
> lot of you out west! I should have moved to the other side.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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ej22t · Post by **ej22t** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 9:46 pm

Hi Mark, I would like to know where did you found the engine?
I'm looking for it for a long time and I would like to give my car
relive and suitable for winter and road rally!
Please help

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Mark Ward · Post by **Mark Ward** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 12:46 am

email me direct and I will give you alll the info. If you have the time, get
it from New Zealand, It will be cheaper, get a front clip or something.
I will respond from work tomorrow, I have all the info there.
Mark
www.rrunracing.com

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I'm looking for it for a long time and I would like to give my car
relive and suitable for winter and road rally!
Please help

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DNA_Man · Post by **DNA_Man** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 12:09 pm

Since you asked, I am currently running my Legacy in RallyCross, and
it's very competetive. I'm going to put in a roll cage this summer
and run Performance Rallys next year. However, since it's a 1990, I
won't be able to run ProRally because of the new age limit rule (10
years on P-GT). I can still run the ClubRally, RallyCross and Ice
races... but for ProRally, I'm screwed...

BTW, somebody asked for the Rally schedule for the US... Here's a
page that has most of it... but it's focused for our local group so
it includes little local stuff too...

http://coloradoscca.org/redline/page9.html

Here is a page that can help you figure out what class your car will
be in... (most Legacys are going to be P-GT because of the 4WD
multiplier) Let me know if you are having trouble figuring out your
class. Somebody told me once that the same classes apply for
ProRally, but for some reason I'm thinking that may not be correct.

http://www.coloradorally.org/
<click on "Rally-X Series" on the left side - there's a link to the
complete rulebook on this site too>

Production
Street licensed, closed body, 4 wheel vehicles, for sale in the US
No updating/backdating is permitted. The maximum adjusted
displacement for this class is 2650cc (see Table 1) This is
essentially a Solo II stock or street touring car. Roll cage and
other safety modifications are permitted. The class may include rally
trucks.

Production GT
Street licensed, closed body, 4 wheel, vehicles for sale in the US
No updating/backdating is permitted. This is essentially a stock or
street touring vehicle with an adjusted maximum displacement
exceeding 2650cc (See Table 1). Roll cage and other safety
modifications are permitted. The class may include rally trucks.

Table 1 (Multipliers)
Rotaries = 1.8
Turbocharged = 1.7
Supercharged = 1.7
4WD = 1.3
4 valves/cylinder = 1.2
3 valves/cylinder = 1.1
2 valves/cylinder = 1.0
VTEC = 1.1
Pushrod = 0.8

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Rabin James <rabinjames@s...> wrote:
> Welcome to the list John.
>
> Mark, myself and possibly you are the only ones running Legacy's as
> Performance Rally cars. (Anyone else?) Mark runs a Group N Legacy
with a
> EJ20T (!!!), And I am a Crew Chief for Dave Kozegi who runs a
Production 4 Legacy.

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jason grahn · Post by **jason grahn** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 1:29 pm

Rabin asked:
>Plans are up in the air for next year but hopefully we'll make it down to
>the states for a couple rallies. Anybody have any info on running the
>North
>American Cup?
>

copied from an email a friend of mine sent me after i asked him the
question...
>>>>>
NARC is the existing North American Rally Cup, in which (I think) you
take your top five finishes, with at least two in each country (US
and Canada). I'm not sure exactly how it works; since I've never done
any national events in Canada so I haven't really looked into it. It
might be in the rule book; I don't have mine with me today.

CNAR is the forthcoming Championship of North American Rallying, an FIA
series (like the Asia Pacific). It will consist of seven rounds (2 each
in Canada and Mexico and 3 in the US), and you have to run at least one
event in each country to qualify. It is supposed to start in 2003. I
don't know much about it, this is about the extent of what I know. I
gather it was publicly announced at Laughlin this weekend; it has been
pretty hush-hush until now. I'm sure details will be forthcoming.
<<<<<<<

Alas, I haven't found any concrete information on either race series.

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Rabin James · Post by **Rabin James** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 2:39 pm

Damn does this mean if we want to chase the NA Cup, next year is the only
year we can do it with our 92'

If so, that SUCKS! These cars will stay lay a licking on a majority of
cars that are newer than it. Our car only has 24000 KM on it...and it was
only ever driven on weekends (that's Daves favorite line!)

Well, I think CARS has lenthened the reprieve on older cars other wise half
the competitors get ruled out.

Any chance of the 10 year rule being repealed?

Rabin

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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 117 AM
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> Since you asked, I am currently running my Legacy in RallyCross, and
> it's very competetive. I'm going to put in a roll cage this summer
> and run Performance Rallys next year. However, since it's a 1990, I
> won't be able to run ProRally because of the new age limit rule (10
> years on P-GT). I can still run the ClubRally, RallyCross and Ice
> races... but for ProRally, I'm screwed...
>
> BTW, somebody asked for the Rally schedule for the US... Here's a
> page that has most of it... but it's focused for our local group so
> it includes little local stuff too...
>
> http://coloradoscca.org/redline/page9.html
>
> Here is a page that can help you figure out what class your car will
> be in... (most Legacys are going to be P-GT because of the 4WD
> multiplier) Let me know if you are having trouble figuring out your
> class. Somebody told me once that the same classes apply for
> ProRally, but for some reason I'm thinking that may not be correct.
>
> http://www.coloradorally.org/
> <click on "Rally-X Series" on the left side - there's a link to the
> complete rulebook on this site too>
>
> Production
> Street licensed, closed body, 4 wheel vehicles, for sale in the US
> No updating/backdating is permitted. The maximum adjusted
> displacement for this class is 2650cc (see Table 1) This is
> essentially a Solo II stock or street touring car. Roll cage and
> other safety modifications are permitted. The class may include rally
> trucks.
>
>
> Production GT
> Street licensed, closed body, 4 wheel, vehicles for sale in the US
> No updating/backdating is permitted. This is essentially a stock or
> street touring vehicle with an adjusted maximum displacement
> exceeding 2650cc (See Table 1). Roll cage and other safety
> modifications are permitted. The class may include rally trucks.
>
> Table 1 (Multipliers)
> Rotaries = 1.8
> Turbocharged = 1.7
> Supercharged = 1.7
> 4WD = 1.3
> 4 valves/cylinder = 1.2
> 3 valves/cylinder = 1.1
> 2 valves/cylinder = 1.0
> VTEC = 1.1
> Pushrod = 0.8
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Rabin James <rabinjames@s...> wrote:
> > Welcome to the list John.
> >
> > Mark, myself and possibly you are the only ones running Legacy's as
> > Performance Rally cars. (Anyone else?) Mark runs a Group N Legacy
> with a
> > EJ20T (!!!), And I am a Crew Chief for Dave Kozegi who runs a
> Production 4 Legacy.
>
>
>
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Rabin James · Post by **Rabin James** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 2:49 pm

Can anyone tell me the four biggest rallies in the NW United States (Under
BC, Alberta or Saskatchewan)

If this is the only year we can race, plans have to be made, souls put up
for sale....you know the usual stuff.

Thanks for the info!

Rabin
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To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!

Rabin asked:
>Plans are up in the air for next year but hopefully we'll make it down to
>the states for a couple rallies. Anybody have any info on running the
>North
>American Cup?
>

copied from an email a friend of mine sent me after i asked him the
question...
>>>>>
NARC is the existing North American Rally Cup, in which (I think) you
take your top five finishes, with at least two in each country (US
and Canada). I'm not sure exactly how it works; since I've never done
any national events in Canada so I haven't really looked into it. It
might be in the rule book; I don't have mine with me today.

CNAR is the forthcoming Championship of North American Rallying, an FIA
series (like the Asia Pacific). It will consist of seven rounds (2 each
in Canada and Mexico and 3 in the US), and you have to run at least one
event in each country to qualify. It is supposed to start in 2003. I
don't know much about it, this is about the extent of what I know. I
gather it was publicly announced at Laughlin this weekend; it has been
pretty hush-hush until now. I'm sure details will be forthcoming.
<<<<<<<

Alas, I haven't found any concrete information on either race series.

-Jason Grahn

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jason grahn · Post by **jason grahn** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 3:39 pm

If you're talking SCCA Pro-rallies, then these two are the only PRO-rallies
in the northwest USA:

Oregon Trail (in Oregon) - April
Wild West Rally (in Washington) - September

outside of of the NW, then Rim of the World Rally in May is in Palmdale,
California and Prescott Forest Rally is in October in Prescott, Arizona.

-Jason

>From: Rabin James <rabinjames@sk.sympatico.ca>
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:33:49 -0600
>
>Can anyone tell me the four biggest rallies in the NW United States (Under
>BC, Alberta or Saskatchewan)
>
>If this is the only year we can race, plans have to be made, souls put up
>for sale....you know the usual stuff.
>
>Thanks for the info!
>
>Rabin
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@hotmail.com>
>To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>
>
>Rabin asked:
> >Plans are up in the air for next year but hopefully we'll make it down to
> >the states for a couple rallies. Anybody have any info on running the
> >North
> >American Cup?
> >
>
>copied from an email a friend of mine sent me after i asked him the
>question...
> >>>>>
>NARC is the existing North American Rally Cup, in which (I think) you
>take your top five finishes, with at least two in each country (US
>and Canada). I'm not sure exactly how it works; since I've never done
>any national events in Canada so I haven't really looked into it. It
>might be in the rule book; I don't have mine with me today.
>
>CNAR is the forthcoming Championship of North American Rallying, an FIA
>series (like the Asia Pacific). It will consist of seven rounds (2 each
>in Canada and Mexico and 3 in the US), and you have to run at least one
>event in each country to qualify. It is supposed to start in 2003. I
>don't know much about it, this is about the extent of what I know. I
>gather it was publicly announced at Laughlin this weekend; it has been
>pretty hush-hush until now. I'm sure details will be forthcoming.
><<<<<<<
>
>Alas, I haven't found any concrete information on either race series.
>
>-Jason Grahn
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Mark Ward · Post by **Mark Ward** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 6:29 pm

As for the 10 year plans, I think we as Canadians dont fall under that rule
if we race in the US. Because the cars are legal in Canada and we are
Canadian citizens with CARS log books, If we race in US events, we dont
worry about the 10 year rule. This is part of the give and take between US
and Canada. We also get to seam weld and rip out most of the interior but we
have to run smaller restrictors on turbo's.
Rabin, you know you have to get a 34mm restrictor for next year....
Mark
www.rrunracing.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Rabin James [mailto:rabinjames@sk.sympatico.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:34 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!

Can anyone tell me the four biggest rallies in the NW United States (Under
BC, Alberta or Saskatchewan)

If this is the only year we can race, plans have to be made, souls put up
for sale....you know the usual stuff.

Thanks for the info!

Rabin
----- Original Message -----
From: "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@hotmail.com>
To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!

Rabin asked:
>Plans are up in the air for next year but hopefully we'll make it down to
>the states for a couple rallies. Anybody have any info on running the
>North
>American Cup?
>

copied from an email a friend of mine sent me after i asked him the
question...
>>>>>
NARC is the existing North American Rally Cup, in which (I think) you
take your top five finishes, with at least two in each country (US
and Canada). I'm not sure exactly how it works; since I've never done
any national events in Canada so I haven't really looked into it. It
might be in the rule book; I don't have mine with me today.

CNAR is the forthcoming Championship of North American Rallying, an FIA
series (like the Asia Pacific). It will consist of seven rounds (2 each
in Canada and Mexico and 3 in the US), and you have to run at least one
event in each country to qualify. It is supposed to start in 2003. I
don't know much about it, this is about the extent of what I know. I
gather it was publicly announced at Laughlin this weekend; it has been
pretty hush-hush until now. I'm sure details will be forthcoming.
<<<<<<<

Alas, I haven't found any concrete information on either race series.

-Jason Grahn

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Rabin James · Post by **Rabin James** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 6:59 pm

I thought it is 34 mm and we have to get a 32 mm?

Nice to year about the give and take!! I can now take my soul off the for
sale list!

Thanks Mark!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Ward" <mark@rrunracing.com>
To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!

> As for the 10 year plans, I think we as Canadians dont fall under that
rule
> if we race in the US. Because the cars are legal in Canada and we are
> Canadian citizens with CARS log books, If we race in US events, we dont
> worry about the 10 year rule. This is part of the give and take between US
> and Canada. We also get to seam weld and rip out most of the interior but
we
> have to run smaller restrictors on turbo's.
> Rabin, you know you have to get a 34mm restrictor for next year....
> Mark
> www.rrunracing.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rabin James [mailto:rabinjames@sk.sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:34 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>
>
> Can anyone tell me the four biggest rallies in the NW United States (Under
> BC, Alberta or Saskatchewan)
>
> If this is the only year we can race, plans have to be made, souls put up
> for sale....you know the usual stuff.
>
> Thanks for the info!
>
> Rabin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@hotmail.com>
> To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>
>
> Rabin asked:
> >Plans are up in the air for next year but hopefully we'll make it down to
> >the states for a couple rallies. Anybody have any info on running the
> >North
> >American Cup?
> >
>
> copied from an email a friend of mine sent me after i asked him the
> question...
> >>>>>
> NARC is the existing North American Rally Cup, in which (I think) you
> take your top five finishes, with at least two in each country (US
> and Canada). I'm not sure exactly how it works; since I've never done
> any national events in Canada so I haven't really looked into it. It
> might be in the rule book; I don't have mine with me today.
>
> CNAR is the forthcoming Championship of North American Rallying, an FIA
> series (like the Asia Pacific). It will consist of seven rounds (2 each
> in Canada and Mexico and 3 in the US), and you have to run at least one
> event in each country to qualify. It is supposed to start in 2003. I
> don't know much about it, this is about the extent of what I know. I
> gather it was publicly announced at Laughlin this weekend; it has been
> pretty hush-hush until now. I'm sure details will be forthcoming.
> <<<<<<<
>
> Alas, I haven't found any concrete information on either race series.
>
> -Jason Grahn
>
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Mark Ward · Post by **Mark Ward** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 7:59 pm

You are currently at 36mm I believe and you have to go to 34mm.

If I remember correctly....
Mark
rrunracing

-----Original Message-----
From: Rabin James [mailto:rabinjames@sk.sympatico.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:51 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!

I thought it is 34 mm and we have to get a 32 mm?

Nice to year about the give and take!! I can now take my soul off the for
sale list!

Thanks Mark!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Ward" <mark@rrunracing.com>
To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!

> As for the 10 year plans, I think we as Canadians dont fall under that
rule
> if we race in the US. Because the cars are legal in Canada and we are
> Canadian citizens with CARS log books, If we race in US events, we dont
> worry about the 10 year rule. This is part of the give and take between US
> and Canada. We also get to seam weld and rip out most of the interior but
we
> have to run smaller restrictors on turbo's.
> Rabin, you know you have to get a 34mm restrictor for next year....
> Mark
> www.rrunracing.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rabin James [mailto:rabinjames@sk.sympatico.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:34 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>
>
> Can anyone tell me the four biggest rallies in the NW United States (Under
> BC, Alberta or Saskatchewan)
>
> If this is the only year we can race, plans have to be made, souls put up
> for sale....you know the usual stuff.
>
> Thanks for the info!
>
> Rabin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@hotmail.com>
> To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>
>
> Rabin asked:
> >Plans are up in the air for next year but hopefully we'll make it down to
> >the states for a couple rallies. Anybody have any info on running the
> >North
> >American Cup?
> >
>
> copied from an email a friend of mine sent me after i asked him the
> question...
> >>>>>
> NARC is the existing North American Rally Cup, in which (I think) you
> take your top five finishes, with at least two in each country (US
> and Canada). I'm not sure exactly how it works; since I've never done
> any national events in Canada so I haven't really looked into it. It
> might be in the rule book; I don't have mine with me today.
>
> CNAR is the forthcoming Championship of North American Rallying, an FIA
> series (like the Asia Pacific). It will consist of seven rounds (2 each
> in Canada and Mexico and 3 in the US), and you have to run at least one
> event in each country to qualify. It is supposed to start in 2003. I
> don't know much about it, this is about the extent of what I know. I
> gather it was publicly announced at Laughlin this weekend; it has been
> pretty hush-hush until now. I'm sure details will be forthcoming.
> <<<<<<<
>
> Alas, I haven't found any concrete information on either race series.
>
> -Jason Grahn
>
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jason grahn · Post by **jason grahn** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 8:09 pm

Sounds like this car has been passed around a little.

-Jason

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>To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:58:58 -0800
>
>You are currently at 36mm I believe and you have to go to 34mm.
>
>If I remember correctly....
>Mark
>rrunracing
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rabin James [mailto:rabinjames@sk.sympatico.ca]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:51 PM
>To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>
>
>I thought it is 34 mm and we have to get a 32 mm?
>
>Nice to year about the give and take!! I can now take my soul off the for
>sale list!
>
>Thanks Mark!
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Ward" <mark@rrunracing.com>
>To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:27 PM
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>
>
> > As for the 10 year plans, I think we as Canadians dont fall under that
>rule
> > if we race in the US. Because the cars are legal in Canada and we are
> > Canadian citizens with CARS log books, If we race in US events, we dont
> > worry about the 10 year rule. This is part of the give and take between
>US
> > and Canada. We also get to seam weld and rip out most of the interior
>but
>we
> > have to run smaller restrictors on turbo's.
> > Rabin, you know you have to get a 34mm restrictor for next year....
> > Mark
> > www.rrunracing.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rabin James [mailto:rabinjames@sk.sympatico.ca]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:34 AM
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
> >
> >
> > Can anyone tell me the four biggest rallies in the NW United States
>(Under
> > BC, Alberta or Saskatchewan)
> >
> > If this is the only year we can race, plans have to be made, souls put
>up
> > for sale....you know the usual stuff.
> >
> > Thanks for the info!
> >
> > Rabin
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@hotmail.com>
> > To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
> >
> >
> > Rabin asked:
> > >Plans are up in the air for next year but hopefully we'll make it down
>to
> > >the states for a couple rallies. Anybody have any info on running the
> > >North
> > >American Cup?
> > >
> >
> > copied from an email a friend of mine sent me after i asked him the
> > question...
> > >>>>>
> > NARC is the existing North American Rally Cup, in which (I think) you
> > take your top five finishes, with at least two in each country (US
> > and Canada). I'm not sure exactly how it works; since I've never done
> > any national events in Canada so I haven't really looked into it. It
> > might be in the rule book; I don't have mine with me today.
> >
> > CNAR is the forthcoming Championship of North American Rallying, an FIA
> > series (like the Asia Pacific). It will consist of seven rounds (2 each
> > in Canada and Mexico and 3 in the US), and you have to run at least one
> > event in each country to qualify. It is supposed to start in 2003. I
> > don't know much about it, this is about the extent of what I know. I
> > gather it was publicly announced at Laughlin this weekend; it has been
> > pretty hush-hush until now. I'm sure details will be forthcoming.
> > <<<<<<<
> >
> > Alas, I haven't found any concrete information on either race series.
> >
> > -Jason Grahn
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Mark Ward · Post by **Mark Ward** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 11:22 pm

This car that Rabin is talking about was built new in 1991 by Subaru Canada
for Tom Mcgeer, After several years of service, it went to Clark Paynter
hand who raced it till last year. It is now owned by Dave Kosegi (sp??) from
British Columbia. Must be a low milage car (hehe). The actually raced for 7
years before they re-built the motor, just goes to show the strength of the
Subaru motor.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: jason grahn [mailto:jgrahn555@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 52 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
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Sounds like this car has been passed around a little.

-Jason

>From: "Mark Ward" <mark@rrunracing.com>
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:58:58 -0800
>
>You are currently at 36mm I believe and you have to go to 34mm.
>
>If I remember correctly....
>Mark
>rrunracing
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rabin James [mailto:rabinjames@sk.sympatico.ca]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 3:51 PM
>To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>
>
>I thought it is 34 mm and we have to get a 32 mm?
>
>Nice to year about the give and take!! I can now take my soul off the for
>sale list!
>
>Thanks Mark!
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Ward" <mark@rrunracing.com>
>To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:27 PM
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
>
>
> > As for the 10 year plans, I think we as Canadians dont fall under that
>rule
> > if we race in the US. Because the cars are legal in Canada and we are
> > Canadian citizens with CARS log books, If we race in US events, we dont
> > worry about the 10 year rule. This is part of the give and take between
>US
> > and Canada. We also get to seam weld and rip out most of the interior
>but
>we
> > have to run smaller restrictors on turbo's.
> > Rabin, you know you have to get a 34mm restrictor for next year....
> > Mark
> > www.rrunracing.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rabin James [mailto:rabinjames@sk.sympatico.ca]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:34 AM
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
> >
> >
> > Can anyone tell me the four biggest rallies in the NW United States
>(Under
> > BC, Alberta or Saskatchewan)
> >
> > If this is the only year we can race, plans have to be made, souls put
>up
> > for sale....you know the usual stuff.
> >
> > Thanks for the info!
> >
> > Rabin
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@hotmail.com>
> > To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
> >
> >
> > Rabin asked:
> > >Plans are up in the air for next year but hopefully we'll make it down
>to
> > >the states for a couple rallies. Anybody have any info on running the
> > >North
> > >American Cup?
> > >
> >
> > copied from an email a friend of mine sent me after i asked him the
> > question...
> > >>>>>
> > NARC is the existing North American Rally Cup, in which (I think) you
> > take your top five finishes, with at least two in each country (US
> > and Canada). I'm not sure exactly how it works; since I've never done
> > any national events in Canada so I haven't really looked into it. It
> > might be in the rule book; I don't have mine with me today.
> >
> > CNAR is the forthcoming Championship of North American Rallying, an FIA
> > series (like the Asia Pacific). It will consist of seven rounds (2 each
> > in Canada and Mexico and 3 in the US), and you have to run at least one
> > event in each country to qualify. It is supposed to start in 2003. I
> > don't know much about it, this is about the extent of what I know. I
> > gather it was publicly announced at Laughlin this weekend; it has been
> > pretty hush-hush until now. I'm sure details will be forthcoming.
> > <<<<<<<
> >
> > Alas, I haven't found any concrete information on either race series.
> >
> > -Jason Grahn
> >
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DNA_Man · Post by **DNA_Man** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 12:02 am

Dont forget the Pikes Peak International Hillclimb in Colorado! From
what I understand, they are adding a ProRally division to increase
interest. If you check out the schedule
(http://coloradoscca.org/redline/page9.html), you will see there are
at least 5 other National ProRallys next year. There is also the
Colorado Cog Rally in Steamboat Colorado, which is for some reason
not on that page. I am not sure of the date for 2002, but this year
it was Sept. 15. We Colorado Rallyists are really trying to promote
that one... it is a really great venue!

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...> wrote:
> If you're talking SCCA Pro-rallies, then these two are the only PRO-
rallies
> in the northwest USA:
>
> Oregon Trail (in Oregon) - April
> Wild West Rally (in Washington) - September
>
> outside of of the NW, then Rim of the World Rally in May is in
Palmdale,
> California and Prescott Forest Rally is in October in Prescott,
Arizona.
>
> -Jason
>
> >From: Rabin James <rabinjames@s...>
> >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> >To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> >Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] New to the list!
> >Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:33:49 -0600
> >
> >Can anyone tell me the four biggest rallies in the NW United
States (Under
> >BC, Alberta or Saskatchewan)
> >
> >If this is the only year we can race, plans have to be made, souls
put up
> >for sale....you know the usual stuff.
> >
> >Thanks for the info!
> >
> >Rabin

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INCEv@webtv.net · Post by **INCEv@webtv.net** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 4:22 am

Wild West Rally in WA? Where dose this take place? Any body Know? Dan

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Mark Ward · Post by **Mark Ward** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:32 am

September in Shelton, just south of seattle.
Mark

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jason grahn · Post by **jason grahn** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:42 pm

I was referring to more Localized events.. I could have mentioned Lake
Superior, or Ojibwe Forest, or Cherokee Trails, etc. But they're all on the
east coast.

the only SCCA event for Pikes Peak this year is going to be an SCCA
Invitational; ie, probably only going to be big shots and works teams.

-Jason

>From: "DNA_Man" <dna_man@yahoo.com>
>Dont forget the Pikes Peak International Hillclimb in Colorado! From
>what I understand, they are adding a ProRally division to increase
>interest. If you check out the schedule
>(http://coloradoscca.org/redline/page9.html), you will see there are
>at least 5 other National ProRallys next year. There is also the
>Colorado Cog Rally in Steamboat Colorado, which is for some reason
>not on that page. I am not sure of the date for 2002, but this year
>it was Sept. 15. We Colorado Rallyists are really trying to promote
>that one... it is a really great venue!
>
>

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jason grahn · Post by **jason grahn** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:52 pm

yes, Shelton Washington. I raced in it last year, and Mark showed up to
service crew for another team. Will hung out with Subaru of America, Ian D.
service crewed for Paul Eklund, and Pete H. raced his legacy in PGT (WITH NO
SERVICE CREW AT ALL!! SHEESH!), talk about brave.

-Jason

>From: INCEv@webtv.net
>Wild West Rally in WA? Where dose this take place? Any body Know? Dan
>
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