Intercooling a Sport Sedan

c150cglzp · Post by **c150cglzp** » Tue Jun 11, 2002 10:10 am

What size and type of intercooler do you guys use on your sedans or
wagons. Is there a preferred manufacturer?

Mark

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adam@mymindseye.ca · Post by **adam@mymindseye.ca** » Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:03 am

I used an IC off a 95 WRX EURO Spec. If i knew what i know now i would
have used a Water/Air IC as mine heats up alot. Either that or get a
bigger hood scoop, but i haven't figured out how to get one installed on
the car without spending 600 dollars on it.

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> wagons. Is there a preferred manufacturer?
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legacycentral · Post by **legacycentral** » Wed Jun 12, 2002 1:43 pm

Any intercooler is better than none in 98% of circumstances.

A bigger hood scoop would be nice, so would a fiberglass hood with RS
vents and scoop...

Dave

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> I used an IC off a 95 WRX EURO Spec. If i knew what i know now i
would
> have used a Water/Air IC as mine heats up alot. Either that or get
a
> bigger hood scoop, but i haven't figured out how to get one
installed on
> the car without spending 600 dollars on it.
>
> >
> > What size and type of intercooler do you guys use on your sedans
or
> > wagons. Is there a preferred manufacturer?
> >
> > Mark

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John · Post by **John** » Wed Jun 12, 2002 4:33 pm

Dave-

What kind of car did your intercooler come off of? How
is it working for you? was there A LOT of custom work
to make it fit?

--- legacycentral <legacycentral@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Any intercooler is better than none in 98% of
> circumstances.
>
> A bigger hood scoop would be nice, so would a
> fiberglass hood with RS
> vents and scoop...
>
> Dave
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., <adam@m...> wrote:
> > I used an IC off a 95 WRX EURO Spec. If i knew
> what i know now i
> would
> > have used a Water/Air IC as mine heats up alot.
> Either that or get
> a
> > bigger hood scoop, but i haven't figured out how
> to get one
> installed on
> > the car without spending 600 dollars on it.
> >
> > >
> > > What size and type of intercooler do you guys
> use on your sedans
> or
> > > wagons. Is there a preferred manufacturer?
> > >
> > > Mark
>
>
>

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legacycentral · Post by **legacycentral** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 12:33 am

I was lucky to find an intercooler from a 2.5RS intercooler project
on eBay. The guy was running in the 13s with it, but wanted more, so
i ended up with it.

It's relatively small, but 3.5" thick and uses a Spearco core. I was
concerned about the turbo-IC connection, but i found a lower radiator
hose that fit 98% perfect. Getting the IAC and BOV routing done
right took another few days, but it's all sorted out now.

So...not terribly hard.

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>
> What kind of car did your intercooler come off of? How
> is it working for you? was there A LOT of custom work
> to make it fit?

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Matthew Reese · Post by **Matthew Reese** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:13 am

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Matthew Reese · Post by **Matthew Reese** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:23 am

I'll try again... my posts are getting screwed up!

I have just installed a Saab 900 intercooler. Fit well. My dissapointment is that the max sustained boost at WOT is 9 psi. If I use the manual mode of my auto tranny, the boost will maintain 15-17 psi. This is OK except I don't like launching the car in 2nd - hard on the tranny and it's slow! What kind of boost can you maintain in the 1/4 mile run? Have I maxed out my turbo? BTW - I'm running my turbo to the max - wastegate control line is disconnected giving me full potential.

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Matthew Reese · Post by **Matthew Reese** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:23 am

I'll try again... my posts are getting screwed up!

I have just installed a Saab 900 intercooler. Fit well. My dissapointment is that the max sustained boost at WOT is 9 psi. If I use the manual mode of my auto tranny, the boost will maintain 15-17 psi. This is OK except I don't like launching the car in 2nd - hard on the tranny and it's slow! What kind of boost can you maintain in the 1/4 mile run? Have I maxed out my turbo? BTW - I'm running my turbo to the max - wastegate control line is disconnected giving me full potential.

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legacycentral · Post by **legacycentral** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 9:43 am

I can't seem to boost over 11PSI after the intercooler installation,
but i think it might be because of the restrictive nature of the
intercooler, stock downpipe, and perhaps a mis-tuned AVC-R.

I'm getting a 2.5" catless DP made today, so we'll see if that helps.

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Adam Archibald · Post by **Adam Archibald** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 10:23 am

I'm curious on something.....
Have you upgraded your fuel delivery system (pump, injectors, etc.)? As
far as I have been told the current fuel system can't handle any more than
13psi, hence why the fuel cut-off is there.
-Adam
>
>
>
> I'll try again... my posts are getting screwed up!
> I have just installed a Saab 900 intercooler. Fit well. My
> dissapointment is that the max sustained boost at WOT is 9 psi. If I
> use the manual mode of my auto tranny, the boost will maintain 15-17
> psi. This is OK except I don't like launching the car in 2nd - hard on
> the tranny and it's slow! What kind of boost can you maintain in the
> 1/4 mile run? Have I maxed out my turbo? BTW - I'm running my turbo to
> the max - wastegate control line is disconnected giving me full
> potential.
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Josh Colombo · Post by **Josh Colombo** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 11:33 am

You're goin to blow your engine with that wastegate control line disconnected! It is there for a reason. There's no reason to disconnect that. Hook it back up, buy yourself a good MBC set it to whatever boost pressure you want, and then go from there to see how things go and such.

Number one thing you should have done is get a boost controller, whether it be manual, or electronic. It will bypass the ECU's measely boost level cuts.

Josh

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I'll try again... my posts are getting screwed up!

I have just installed a Saab 900 intercooler. Fit well. My dissapointment is that the max sustained boost at WOT is 9 psi. If I use the manual mode of my auto tranny, the boost will maintain 15-17 psi. This is OK except I don't like launching the car in 2nd - hard on the tranny and it's slow! What kind of boost can you maintain in the 1/4 mile run? Have I maxed out my turbo? BTW - I'm running my turbo to the max - wastegate control line is disconnected giving me full potential.

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c150cglzp · Post by **c150cglzp** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 3:43 pm

Hey Adam,

Why is it that a larger hoodscoop costs that much? I've seen nice
fiberglass ones for 150 bucks. Couldn't you chop a hole and glue it
down with some glass and resin? Also How many pounds are you getting
with that IC?

Thanks,
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Matthew Reese · Post by **Matthew Reese** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 9:03 pm

Thanks for the reply. I am only diconnecting the wastegate vaccum to prove to myself that I have exceeded the capabilities of my turbo. If it won't push more than 10 psi through my intercooler I am not going to keep this intercooler installed. I will not be running the car with the disconnected line - infact the intercooler and all is out and I'm back to my previous setup. I have 2 different manual boost controllers that I have tried and am now using an electronic setup. I have also advanced my timing considerably and this alone has proven to be the most potent mod on my turbo. I can see from my testing I could use a bigger turbo!

Matt

>From: "Josh Colombo"
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:30:53 -0500
>
>You're goin to blow your engine with that wastegate control line disconnected! It is there for a reason. There's no reason to disconnect that. Hook it back up, buy yourself a good MBC set it to whatever boost pressure you want, and then go from there to see how things go and such.
>
>Number one thing you should have done is get a boost controller, whether it be manual, or electronic. It will bypass the ECU's measely boost level cuts.
>
>Josh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thu 6/13/2002 7:13 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>
>
>
> I'll try again... my posts are getting screwed up!
>
> I have just installed a Saab 900 intercooler. Fit well. My dissapointment is that the max sustained boost at WOT is 9 psi. If I use the manual mode of my auto tranny, the boost will maintain 15-17 psi. This is OK except I don't like launching the car in 2nd - hard on the tranny and it's slow! What kind of boost can you maintain in the 1/4 mile run? Have I maxed out my turbo? BTW - I'm running my turbo to the max - wastegate control line is disconnected giving me full potential.
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Josh Colombo · Post by **Josh Colombo** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 10:13 pm

Just curious......how are you advancing your timing? Do you have an aftermarket ECU or some other ECU tuning software/hardware?

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Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan

Thanks for the reply. I am only diconnecting the wastegate vaccum to prove to myself that I have exceeded the capabilities of my turbo. If it won't push more than 10 psi through my intercooler I am not going to keep this intercooler installed. I will not be running the car with the disconnected line - infact the intercooler and all is out and I'm back to my previous setup. I have 2 different manual boost controllers that I have tried and am now using an electronic setup. I have also advanced my timing considerably and this alone has proven to be the most potent mod on my turbo. I can see from my testing I could use a bigger turbo!

Matt

>From: "Josh Colombo"
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:30:53 -0500
>
>You're goin to blow your engine with that wastegate control line disconnected! It is there for a reason. There's no reason to disconnect that. Hook it back up, buy yourself a good MBC set it to whatever boost pressure you want, and then go from there to see how things go and such.
>
>Number one thing you should have done is get a boost controller, whether it be manual, or electronic. It will bypass the ECU's measely boost level cuts.
>
>Josh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thu 6/13/2002 7:13 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>
>
>
> I'll try again... my posts are getting screwed up!
>
> I have just installed a Saab 900 intercooler. Fit well. My dissapointment is that the max sustained boost at WOT is 9 psi. If I use the manual mode of my auto tranny, the boost will maintain 15-17 psi. This is OK except I don't like launching the car in 2nd - hard on the tranny and it's slow! What kind of boost can you maintain in the 1/4 mile run? Have I maxed out my turbo? BTW - I'm running my turbo to the max - wastegate control line is disconnected giving me full potential.
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Matthew Reese · Post by **Matthew Reese** » Thu Jun 13, 2002 11:23 pm

Here's the idea. After an ECU reset, the timing is advanced. The knock senosr is then monitored and the appropriate amount of retard is applied. I have removed my knock senosr (15,000 miles now - hard running at that!) and I have replaced it with a 22K ohm grounded resistor. This fools the ECU - it never hears knock and it prevents the CEL. The catch - take it easy unless I'm running a ~96 or 97 octane mix ( I usually do cause I can't take it easy...). I have had amazing success with this setup. My boost sits in around 12psi and I fly! (for an old car with an auto)

>From: "Josh Colombo"
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 214:22 -0500
>
>Just curious......how are you advancing your timing? Do you have an aftermarket ECU or some other ECU tuning software/hardware?
>
>************************************
>Josh Colombo
> Josh@surrealmirage.com
>
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> of beats and rhythm" - ME
>************************************
>
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>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>
>
>
>Thanks for the reply. I am only diconnecting the wastegate vaccum to prove to myself that I have exceeded the capabilities of my turbo. If it won't push more than 10 psi through my intercooler I am not going to keep this intercooler installed. I will not be running the car with the disconnected line - infact the intercooler and all is out and I'm back to my previous setup. I have 2 different manual boost controllers that I have tried and am now using an electronic setup. I have also advanced my timing considerably and this alone has proven to be the most potent mod on my turbo. I can see from my testing I could use a bigger turbo!
>
>Matt
>
>
>
> >From: "Josh Colombo"
> >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> >To:
> >Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:30:53 -0500
> >
> >You're goin to blow your engine with that wastegate control line disconnected! It is there for a reason. There's no reason to disconnect that. Hook it back up, buy yourself a good MBC set it to whatever boost pressure you want, and then go from there to see how things go and such.
> >
> >Number one thing you should have done is get a boost controller, whether it be manual, or electronic. It will bypass the ECU's measely boost level cuts.
> >
> >Josh
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
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> >
> >
> >
> > I'll try again... my posts are getting screwed up!
> >
> > I have just installed a Saab 900 intercooler. Fit well. My dissapointment is that the max sustained boost at WOT is 9 psi. If I use the manual mode of my auto tranny, the boost will maintain 15-17 psi. This is OK except I don't like launching the car in 2nd - hard on the tranny and it's slow! What kind of boost can you maintain in the 1/4 mile run? Have I maxed out my turbo? BTW - I'm running my turbo to the max - wastegate control line is disconnected giving me full potential.
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Josh Colombo · Post by **Josh Colombo** » Fri Jun 14, 2002 8:23 am

Interesting......however I don't know if I can get......or should I say want to pay for 96/97 octane mix for every day traffic driving.....

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thu 6/13/2002 10:18 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan

Here's the idea. After an ECU reset, the timing is advanced. The knock senosr is then monitored and the appropriate amount of retard is applied. I have removed my knock senosr (15,000 miles now - hard running at that!) and I have replaced it with a 22K ohm grounded resistor. This fools the ECU - it never hears knock and it prevents the CEL. The catch - take it easy unless I'm running a ~96 or 97 octane mix ( I usually do cause I can't take it easy...). I have had amazing success with this setup. My boost sits in around 12psi and I fly! (for an old car with an auto)

>From: "Josh Colombo"
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 214:22 -0500
>
>Just curious......how are you advancing your timing? Do you have an aftermarket ECU or some other ECU tuning software/hardware?
>
>************************************
>Josh Colombo
> Josh@surrealmirage.com
>
>"Life, an ever-changing melody
> of beats and rhythm" - ME
>************************************
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 81 PM
>To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>
>
>
>Thanks for the reply. I am only diconnecting the wastegate vaccum to prove to myself that I have exceeded the capabilities of my turbo. If it won't push more than 10 psi through my intercooler I am not going to keep this intercooler installed. I will not be running the car with the disconnected line - infact the intercooler and all is out and I'm back to my previous setup. I have 2 different manual boost controllers that I have tried and am now using an electronic setup. I have also advanced my timing considerably and this alone has proven to be the most potent mod on my turbo. I can see from my testing I could use a bigger turbo!
>
>Matt
>
>
>
> >From: "Josh Colombo"
> >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> >To:
> >Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:30:53 -0500
> >
> >You're goin to blow your engine with that wastegate control line disconnected! It is there for a reason. There's no reason to disconnect that. Hook it back up, buy yourself a good MBC set it to whatever boost pressure you want, and then go from there to see how things go and such.
> >
> >Number one thing you should have done is get a boost controller, whether it be manual, or electronic. It will bypass the ECU's measely boost level cuts.
> >
> >Josh
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thu 6/13/2002 7:13 AM
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> > Cc:
> > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll try again... my posts are getting screwed up!
> >
> > I have just installed a Saab 900 intercooler. Fit well. My dissapointment is that the max sustained boost at WOT is 9 psi. If I use the manual mode of my auto tranny, the boost will maintain 15-17 psi. This is OK except I don't like launching the car in 2nd - hard on the tranny and it's slow! What kind of boost can you maintain in the 1/4 mile run? Have I maxed out my turbo? BTW - I'm running my turbo to the max - wastegate control line is disconnected giving me full potential.
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Matthew Reese · Post by **Matthew Reese** » Fri Jun 14, 2002 8:53 am

The power is an addiction - I could have a worse habit. Nothing like blowing away Mustangs from light to light every Friday night - actually I'm beginning to forget the feeling - they won't race me anymore : )

Here's the math...

15 gal would be my max fill up. 15 gal of 93 octane @ 1.55/gal = $23.25 or for the good stuff at a 2:1 mix (98.5 octane - more than enough) 10 gal of 93octane @ $1.55/gal and 5 gal of 110 octane @ $3.60/gal = $33.00.

This will last me a week and I am not really concerned about $10 bucks a week!

Time to Turbo the Sube Josh : )

>From: "Josh Colombo"
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 07:13:58 -0500
>
>Interesting......however I don't know if I can get......or should I say want to pay for 96/97 octane mix for every day traffic driving.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thu 6/13/2002 10:18 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Cc:
> Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>
>
>
>
> Here's the idea. After an ECU reset, the timing is advanced. The knock senosr is then monitored and the appropriate amount of retard is applied. I have removed my knock senosr (15,000 miles now - hard running at that!) and I have replaced it with a 22K ohm grounded resistor. This fools the ECU - it never hears knock and it prevents the CEL. The catch - take it easy unless I'm running a ~96 or 97 octane mix ( I usually do cause I can't take it easy...). I have had amazing success with this setup. My boost sits in around 12psi and I fly! (for an old car with an auto)
>
>
> >From: "Josh Colombo"
> >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> >To:
> >Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 214:22 -0500
> >
> >Just curious......how are you advancing your timing? Do you have an aftermarket ECU or some other ECU tuning software/hardware?
> >
> >************************************
> >Josh Colombo
> > Josh@surrealmirage.com
> >
> >"Life, an ever-changing melody
> > of beats and rhythm" - ME
> >************************************
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 81 PM
> >To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks for the reply. I am only diconnecting the wastegate vaccum to prove to myself that I have exceeded the capabilities of my turbo. If it won't push more than 10 psi through my intercooler I am not going to keep this intercooler installed. I will not be running the car with the disconnected line - infact the intercooler and all is out and I'm back to my previous setup. I have 2 different manual boost controllers that I have tried and am now using an electronic setup. I have also advanced my timing considerably and this alone has proven to be the most potent mod on my turbo. I can see from my testing I could use a bigger turbo!
> >
> >Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Josh Colombo"
> > >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> > >To:
> > >Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> > >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:30:53 -0500
> > >
> > >You're goin to blow your engine with that wastegate control line disconnected! It is there for a reason. There's no reason to disconnect that. Hook it back up, buy yourself a good MBC set it to whatever boost pressure you want, and then go from there to see how things go and such.
> > >
> > >Number one thing you should have done is get a boost controller, whether it be manual, or electronic. It will bypass the ECU's measely boost level cuts.
> > >
> > >Josh
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thu 6/13/2002 7:13 AM
> > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> > > Cc:
> > > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll try again... my posts are getting screwed up!
> > >
> > > I have just installed a Saab 900 intercooler. Fit well. My dissapointment is that the max sustained boost at WOT is 9 psi. If I use the manual mode of my auto tranny, the boost will maintain 15-17 psi. This is OK except I don't like launching the car in 2nd - hard on the tranny and it's slow! What kind of boost can you maintain in the 1/4 mile run? Have I maxed out my turbo? BTW - I'm running my turbo to the max - wastegate control line is disconnected giving me full potential.
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Josh Colombo · Post by **Josh Colombo** » Fri Jun 14, 2002 9:33 am

It's in the plan book

Maybe a year or so away.....gotta see how job & living arrangements play out......

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
Sent: Fri 6/14/2002 7:46 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan

The power is an addiction - I could have a worse habit. Nothing like blowing away Mustangs from light to light every Friday night - actually I'm beginning to forget the feeling - they won't race me anymore : )

Here's the math...

15 gal would be my max fill up. 15 gal of 93 octane @ 1.55/gal = $23.25 or for the good stuff at a 2:1 mix (98.5 octane - more than enough) 10 gal of 93octane @ $1.55/gal and 5 gal of 110 octane @ $3.60/gal = $33.00.

This will last me a week and I am not really concerned about $10 bucks a week!

Time to Turbo the Sube Josh : )

>From: "Josh Colombo"
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 07:13:58 -0500
>
>Interesting......however I don't know if I can get......or should I say want to pay for 96/97 octane mix for every day traffic driving.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thu 6/13/2002 10:18 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Cc:
> Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>
>
>
>
> Here's the idea. After an ECU reset, the timing is advanced. The knock senosr is then monitored and the appropriate amount of retard is applied. I have removed my knock senosr (15,000 miles now - hard running at that!) and I have replaced it with a 22K ohm grounded resistor. This fools the ECU - it never hears knock and it prevents the CEL. The catch - take it easy unless I'm running a ~96 or 97 octane mix ( I usually do cause I can't take it easy...). I have had amazing success with this setup. My boost sits in around 12psi and I fly! (for an old car with an auto)
>
>
> >From: "Josh Colombo"
> >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> >To:
> >Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 214:22 -0500
> >
> >Just curious......how are you advancing your timing? Do you have an aftermarket ECU or some other ECU tuning software/hardware?
> >
> >************************************
> >Josh Colombo
> > Josh@surrealmirage.com
> >
> >"Life, an ever-changing melody
> > of beats and rhythm" - ME
> >************************************
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 81 PM
> >To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks for the reply. I am only diconnecting the wastegate vaccum to prove to myself that I have exceeded the capabilities of my turbo. If it won't push more than 10 psi through my intercooler I am not going to keep this intercooler installed. I will not be running the car with the disconnected line - infact the intercooler and all is out and I'm back to my previous setup. I have 2 different manual boost controllers that I have tried and am now using an electronic setup. I have also advanced my timing considerably and this alone has proven to be the most potent mod on my turbo. I can see from my testing I could use a bigger turbo!
> >
> >Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Josh Colombo"
> > >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> > >To:
> > >Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> > >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:30:53 -0500
> > >
> > >You're goin to blow your engine with that wastegate control line disconnected! It is there for a reason. There's no reason to disconnect that. Hook it back up, buy yourself a good MBC set it to whatever boost pressure you want, and then go from there to see how things go and such.
> > >
> > >Number one thing you should have done is get a boost controller, whether it be manual, or electronic. It will bypass the ECU's measely boost level cuts.
> > >
> > >Josh
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thu 6/13/2002 7:13 AM
> > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> > > Cc:
> > > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll try again... my posts are getting screwed up!
> > >
> > > I have just installed a Saab 900 intercooler. Fit well. My dissapointment is that the max sustained boost at WOT is 9 psi. If I use the manual mode of my auto tranny, the boost will maintain 15-17 psi. This is OK except I don't like launching the car in 2nd - hard on the tranny and it's slow! What kind of boost can you maintain in the 1/4 mile run? Have I maxed out my turbo? BTW - I'm running my turbo to the max - wastegate control line is disconnected giving me full potential.
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Adam Archibald · Post by **Adam Archibald** » Fri Jun 14, 2002 10:43 am

yes i am curious too as i have to replace my water pump next week and have
to take the timing belt off.
-Adam
> Just curious......how are you advancing your timing? Do you have an
> aftermarket ECU or some other ECU tuning software/hardware?
>
> ************************************
> Josh Colombo
> <mailto:Josh@surrealmirage.com> Josh@surrealmirage.com
>
> "Life, an ever-changing melody
> of beats and rhythm" - ME
> ************************************
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 81 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>
>
>
> Thanks for the reply. I am only diconnecting the wastegate vaccum to
> prove to myself that I have exceeded the capabilities of my turbo. If
> it won't push more than 10 psi through my intercooler I am not going to
> keep this intercooler installed. I will not be running the car with the
> disconnected line - infact the intercooler and all is out and I'm back
> to my previous setup. I have 2 different manual boost controllers that
> I have tried and am now using an electronic setup. I have also advanced
> my timing considerably and this alone has proven to be the most potent
> mod on my turbo. I can see from my testing I could use a bigger turbo!
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>>From: "Josh Colombo"
>>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>>To:
>>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>>Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:30:53 -0500
>>
>>You're goin to blow your engine with that wastegate control line
>>disconnected! It is there for a reason. There's no reason to disconnect
>>that. Hook it back up, buy yourself a good MBC set it to whatever boost
>>pressure you want, and then go from there to see how things go and
>>such.
>>
>>Number one thing you should have done is get a boost controller,
>>whether it be manual, or electronic. It will bypass the ECU's measely
>>boost level cuts.
>>
>>Josh
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Thu 6/13/2002 7:13 AM
>> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>>
>>
>>
>> I'll try again... my posts are getting screwed up!
>>
>> I have just installed a Saab 900 intercooler. Fit well. My
>> dissapointment is that the max sustained boost at WOT is 9 psi. If I
>> use the manual mode of my auto tranny, the boost will maintain 15-17
>> psi. This is OK except I don't like launching the car in 2nd - hard on
>> the tranny and it's slow! What kind of boost can you maintain in the
>> 1/4 mile run? Have I maxed out my turbo? BTW - I'm running my turbo to
>> the max - wastegate control line is disconnected giving me full
>> potential.
>>
>>
>>
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Matthew Reese · Post by **Matthew Reese** » Fri Jun 14, 2002 11:13 am

Hey Adam, do you live in Ottawa, ON? I'll be there July 4th to 8th. It would be nice to meet a fellow Turbo owner!

For all Turbo owners - What are your best 1/4 mile times. I cannot break 15 seconds and it's killing me. I am not to happy with the shift points of the auto above 60 mph. I have seen the need for the old intercooler after some runs - I'm working on a solid instalation of the Saab intercooler. Post you times and mods!

The reason I'm pumped on the 1/4 - an abondoned track, which has been closed for years has just been opened up. The gate is gone and there are no signs prohibiting use. The owner must be crazy but I'm going to keep running it to something happens or someone bites the dust : )

>From: "Adam Archibald"
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
>Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:39:32 -0400 (EDT)
>
>yes i am curious too as i have to replace my water pump next week and have
>to take the timing belt off.
>-Adam
> > Just curious......how are you advancing your timing? Do you have an
> > aftermarket ECU or some other ECU tuning software/hardware?
> >
> > ************************************
> > Josh Colombo
> > Josh@surrealmirage.com
> >
> > "Life, an ever-changing melody
> > of beats and rhythm" - ME
> > ************************************
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 81 PM
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. I am only diconnecting the wastegate vaccum to
> > prove to myself that I have exceeded the capabilities of my turbo. If
> > it won't push more than 10 psi through my intercooler I am not going to
> > keep this intercooler installed. I will not be running the car with the
> > disconnected line - infact the intercooler and all is out and I'm back
> > to my previous setup. I have 2 different manual boost controllers that
> > I have tried and am now using an electronic setup. I have also advanced
> > my timing considerably and this alone has proven to be the most potent
> > mod on my turbo. I can see from my testing I could use a bigger turbo!
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "Josh Colombo"
> >>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> >>To:
> >>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> >>Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:30:53 -0500
> >>
> >>You're goin to blow your engine with that wastegate control line
> >>disconnected! It is there for a reason. There's no reason to disconnect
> >>that. Hook it back up, buy yourself a good MBC set it to whatever boost
> >>pressure you want, and then go from there to see how things go and
> >>such.
> >>
> >>Number one thing you should have done is get a boost controller,
> >>whether it be manual, or electronic. It will bypass the ECU's measely
> >>boost level cuts.
> >>
> >>Josh
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Matthew Reese [mailto:carmat76@hotmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thu 6/13/2002 7:13 AM
> >> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> >> Cc:
> >> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'll try again... my posts are getting screwed up!
> >>
> >> I have just installed a Saab 900 intercooler. Fit well. My
> >> dissapointment is that the max sustained boost at WOT is 9 psi. If I
> >> use the manual mode of my auto tranny, the boost will maintain 15-17
> >> psi. This is OK except I don't like launching the car in 2nd - hard on
> >> the tranny and it's slow! What kind of boost can you maintain in the
> >> 1/4 mile run? Have I maxed out my turbo? BTW - I'm running my turbo to
> >> the max - wastegate control line is disconnected giving me full
> >> potential.
> >>
> >>
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Adam Archibald · Post by **Adam Archibald** » Fri Jun 14, 2002 2:03 pm

Yes I do live in Ottawa. There is one other owner that is new to the list
that also lives in Ottawa, i have yet to meet him but July 4th to 8th would
be a good time

Would love to see you car. email my address and i will
give you my home and cell numbers, just don't want to post them here as
there is a buch of crazy legacy owner out there ;P

As for my 1/4 i have no idea, never ran it. After my mods this summer i'm
sure i will go down and see how i do. As for mods.
intercooler form 95 WRX EURO spec
2.5 exhaust with high flow cat and up pipe, reative muf.
STI engine mounts, spark plugs & wires
Slotted Roaters, Carbon F pads
17' Primax rims
Falcon GB-R tires 7' wide
shitty little K&N air filter

(that must add atleast 20 hp hahaha!)

>
>
>
> Hey Adam, do you live in Ottawa, ON? I'll be there July 4th to 8th. It
> would be nice to meet a fellow Turbo owner! For all Turbo owners - What
> are your best 1/4 mile times. I cannot break 15 seconds and it's
> killing me. I am not to happy with the shift points of the auto above
> 60 mph. I have seen the need for the old intercooler after some runs -
> I'm working on a solid instalation of the Saab intercooler. Post you
> times and mods! The reason I'm pumped on the 1/4 - an abondoned track,
> which has been closed for years has just been opened up. The gate is
> gone and there are no signs prohibiting use. The owner must be crazy
> but I'm going to keep running it to something happens or someone bites
> the dust : )
>
> >From: "Adam Archibald"
> >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> >To:
> >Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Intercooling a Sport Sedan
> >Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:39:32 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >yes i am curious too as i have to replace my water pump next week
> and have >to take the timing belt off.
> >-Adam
> > > Just curious......how are you advancing your timing? Do you
> have an > > aftermarket ECU or some other ECU tuning
> software/hardware? > >
> > > ************************************
> > > Josh Colombo
> > >

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c150cglzp · Post by **c150cglzp** » Fri Jun 14, 2002 3:43 pm

Hey Adam and Matt,

That would be sweet if the three of us could meet up when your in
Ottawa. We should head over to luskville Dragway (10 miles west of
Hull). 15 bucks buys you a whole night of racing. Last weeks a new WRX
was running mid 14's stock, manual. Blowing away every car there,
except for the really fancy pro mods. If all goes well I should be the
owner of a 91 BC Turbo in a few days. However it'll be a project car
which'll take me a few months to get running. Untill then I'm running
a 93 BC auto.

Later,
Mark

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