Wont start, About to give up!!!!

Heads, valves, pistons, rods, crankshaft, etc...

Moderators: Helpinators, Moderators

Post Reply
legacylok
First Gear
Posts: 75
Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:46 pm
Location: Portland OR

Wont start, About to give up!!!!

Post by legacylok »

I'm not sure if this is where this post should go but here it is:

so i finally got my car put back together and it wont start

here is what i know

-the car sat for six month

-i have spark

-i have fuel ( pulled spark plug it was wet with fuel)

-everything is plugged in as far as i can tell (except the o2 sensor)

-it turns over but nothing happens

-if i spray starting fluid into the intake manifold nothing happens

-blew a fusible link when i first put it back together. new one
installed

im thinking for some reason i messed up the timing here of pics to make sure


if you have any ideas please let me know, i have no idea what to do next.
im about to tow it to the shop down the street and say fix it lol :)



Image

Image

Image
asc_up
Fifth Gear
Posts: 2473
Joined: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:15 am
Location: University Place, WA

Post by asc_up »

Can you take a better/bigger picture of the crank sprocket? I think it might be off by a quarter of a turn. There are two markings on the crank sprocket: the arrow (which you used to align) and a line.
-Aaron

2000 Audi S4 - 2.7L Twin-turbo, 6 Speed

[quote="evolutionmovement"]It was me. And those are my balls. Happy Sunday![/quote]
legacylok
First Gear
Posts: 75
Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:46 pm
Location: Portland OR

Post by legacylok »

ah your a genius IT WORKS!!!


what are the other marks for anyway?
asc_up
Fifth Gear
Posts: 2473
Joined: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:15 am
Location: University Place, WA

Post by asc_up »

Haha awesome!

To be honest, I have absolutely NO idea. Lol.
-Aaron

2000 Audi S4 - 2.7L Twin-turbo, 6 Speed

[quote="evolutionmovement"]It was me. And those are my balls. Happy Sunday![/quote]
ScottyS
Second Gear
Posts: 355
Joined: Sat Mar 08, 2003 6:53 am
Location: Western Nevada

Post by ScottyS »

Hero of the day right there.
1991 SS build thread: http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=40430
entirelyturbo
quasi-mod-o
quasi-mod-o
Posts: 6000
Joined: Thu Dec 05, 2002 7:06 pm
Location: Tampa, FL

Post by entirelyturbo »

Been there, done that... to my grandfather's wagon.

Yes, do not use the arrow on the front of the sprocket. Use the mark on the sensor tooth on the back of the sprocket.

Not only should it not have started, but the engine probably kicked back counter-clockwise a tad when you let off the starter from the lack of cooperation between the compression and the valve springs.

My understanding (take it for what it's worth) is that when the arrow is pointing one direction horizontally, that the pistons on the other side are far enough back in the engine that the valves can't hit them.

Why they put this on a non-interference engine, I'll never know. But that's the best story I've yet heard.
"Der Wahnsinn ist nur eine schmale Brücke/die Ufer sind Vernunft und Trieb"

*Formerly DerFahrer*

@entirelyturbo on social media, including Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok
legacylok
First Gear
Posts: 75
Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:46 pm
Location: Portland OR

Post by legacylok »

thanks to your help the car now runs and drives, but i have run into a new problem.

when i drive about 2 blocks it starts to overheat, if i pull over then it starts to cool down. rinse, repeat, as many times as you like.

this was happening before the car went down and if i removed the thermostat it would be fine. i could drove it as far as i wanted.

just put new cometic head gaskets on so im pretty sure its not that

im not sure if it would make a difference but i have a non-turbo radiator on it that i got from u-pull-it
magicmike
Fifth Gear
Posts: 2772
Joined: Thu Nov 21, 2002 8:30 pm
Location: USA, RI

Post by magicmike »

Get an OEM thermostat for starters, then repost with findings.
-Mike

2011 Infiniti G37x Sedan - Current
2007 Ducati 800ss - Current
1994 Subaru Legacy Sport Wagon (White)
1994 Subaru Legacy Sport Wagon (Silver)
2003 Infiniri G35
1998 Infiniti I30t
1995 Honda Civic DX
1987 Subaru GL Wagon
1987 Subaru Loyale
legacylok
First Gear
Posts: 75
Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:46 pm
Location: Portland OR

Post by legacylok »

i have a oem thermostat that i have checked that works.

this is the third thermostat i have tried
entirelyturbo
quasi-mod-o
quasi-mod-o
Posts: 6000
Joined: Thu Dec 05, 2002 7:06 pm
Location: Tampa, FL

Post by entirelyturbo »

If the car is turbo, it might overheat with a nonturbo radiator.

Running without a thermostat won't solve the problem. In fact, I would expect that once it finally reaches operating temperature, that it slowly starts overheating.
"Der Wahnsinn ist nur eine schmale Brücke/die Ufer sind Vernunft und Trieb"

*Formerly DerFahrer*

@entirelyturbo on social media, including Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok
legacylok
First Gear
Posts: 75
Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:46 pm
Location: Portland OR

Post by legacylok »

trust me it solves the problem i drove around for a month with no thermostat :)

i bought a brand new radiator today well see if that does anything
wtdash
Fifth Gear
Posts: 2349
Joined: Fri May 04, 2007 4:09 pm
Location: N. ID

Post by wtdash »

DerFahrer wrote:If the car is turbo, it might overheat with a nonturbo radiator.


Just wanted to put in my .02 that my non-turbo radiator has no issues cooling my EJ22T (swapped), even during this summer's 100+ heatwave, running 17psi.

There's a way to plumb it so the non-turbo works w/the turbo's cooling system.... It's on here somewhere, and I followed that.

So, could be your radiator, but not because it's a non-turbo (unless I"m really lucky and based on how many times Murphy has shown up during my swap, I doubt it!)
Turbo Subies:
'87 GL-10 Turbo - SOLD
'90 BJ EJ22T/DOHC & 5speed swap - SOLD
'04 FXT, Forged internals, VF39, STI TMIC, Cobb AP- SOLD
'93 Legacy SS - 5-speed, SOLD :-(
'02 WRX -SOLD
'96 BD-turbo'd-SOLD
'98 SF - NA-T
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27932
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Post by Legacy777 »

Yes, non-turbo radiator works fine. You just need to make sure you remove the smaller gasket on the radiator cap, and plumb the overfill from that to the coolant expansion tank.
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
legacylok
First Gear
Posts: 75
Joined: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:46 pm
Location: Portland OR

Post by legacylok »

i put in my brand new turbo radiator and everything works perfect :)

the radiator i had must have been bad
RJ93SS
Third Gear
Posts: 853
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:55 am
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Post by RJ93SS »

your havin lots of good luck my man.

first thing in that pic of your crank sensor i noticed was the arrow.lol.

make sure you burp the system or youll overheat again. i do it by squuezing the upper rad hose until bubbles pop up and keep filling as nesessary
93SS 04 wrx brakes/slotted w/ hawks--TD05 -- 06 I/C -- 20mm n/a fsb -- Stage 2 -- 550's -- Perrin DIV DP -- 2-3/4 Tit Exhaust -- K&N -- C/C -- A/C Delete -- Grounded -- GT Leather Interior -- WRX/STI Strut Setup -- 17" 225's -- 2 Kids Seats ;)
Post Reply