Corner Lenses Discussion for 90-91

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 11:17 pm

This topic was a little sidetracked by me so I'm moving it, I don't have rights so I'm just doing a double post. The origional thread it came from can be found here:

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georryan · Post by **georryan** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 11:17 pm

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The stock front-mounted turn signal with its stock bulb still functioned as a turn signal.
The stock corner lamp bulb was replaced with an amber one, and it functioned as a turn signal.
A new small bulb was installed in the corner lamp housing, and it functioned as a turn signal.

So the turn signal is visible from both the front and the side.

I'll say it here, but I'm also going to make a new thread since this has veered off topic (my fault on that one)....

Here's what I'd like to do... I think it sounds like it is do-able. I like having the driving lights and parking lights on those front corner lights on my 91. If possable I'd still like to convert them to the blinkers also. Now you put two lights in those things, so I'd make room in there for a blinker and move the harness connection up to there and have both the driving light and the blinker connected there. Then I'd have the bottom origional blinkers not working, and I could just swap them out with some fogs or catz lights like 91Turbo has. I just wanted to avoid coloring my front corner lenses all orange like 91turbo has on his. I'm just wondering if you'll be able to see the blinker well enough like that.

hmm, after rereading your post I'm wondering if that would even work. I wouldn't get enough amber light out front to work good for a turn signal, would I?

Well, any thoughts on this idea?

91White-T: That's cool I didn't know that would work like that.

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[edit] My bad, I was refering to boostjunky's car, not 91turbo's car.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 4:45 pm

An alternative would have been to edit the title of the other post to include references to both topics...

But anyway...

I think the turn signal bulb really ought to go in the same place as where the stock parking light bulb goes. That allows it to reflect the best in the housing.

You could take the socket and wiring harness from your stock turn signal, move it in place of the existing corner lamp bulb socket, and then install another socket to use for the parking light (I assume you mean parking light when you say "driving light").

I think it would be visible enough with a 2357NA bulb. You could see how it would look by just putting a 2357NA bulb in place of your existing corner lamp bulb and see how bright it is.

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:02 pm

That makes sense about the reflection vrg3. Thanks. I'll have to try that when I get a chance.

LaureltheQueen · Post by **LaureltheQueen** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:27 am

My thought process on this(i hate how you can only see the turn signal from the front) is as follows.

I know that g4 preludes have alternating blinky turn signals, where the bottom bumper light will blink, and as it goes out, the corner light blinks, and when that goes out, the bumper light blinks, etc...

Get the harness from any honda that has that setup(most do) and spice it into your stock harnesses. Not sure if that would work, because I'm not electronically inclined, but if anyone thinks this will work, I'll talk to my electronics guy, have him do so, and get some video.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:19 pm

I don't know how the Preludes do it, but the way it's usually done is:

You have a (relatively) high-wattage turn signal filament.
You have a (relatively) high-wattage parking light filament.
You have a (relatively) low-wattage additional filament.

These filaments could all be separate bulbs or some could be part of the same bulb.

If you wire the third filament between the switched sides of the other two filaments, then it will be illuminated whenever exactly one of the others is on. So when the parking light is on, it will blink alternately with the turn signal. And when the parking light is off, it will blink with the turn signal.

If you put a 2-filament bulb in the corner lamp, or mount another 1-filament bulb somewhere, and juggle the wattages right, you could get what you're talking about.

Or, hmm... You actually could probably just do it with the stock setup.....

The stock corner lamp has two ends: one end is grounded and the other end is switched by the car's wiring and switches. Same thing with the turn signal. If you cut the grounded wire of the corner lamp, and instead spliced it into the switched side of the turn signal, you'd kind of get what you're talking about. When the parking lights were on, it would turn off when the turn signal turns on. But when the parking lights weren't on, it wouldn't do anything... unless it can ground through the other running lights, which may be possible. If that does happen it would also blink with the turn signal when the parking light is off. The only way to know is to try it.

Sorry for the "stream-of-consciousness" post; that's just how my ideas come up.

LaureltheQueen · Post by **LaureltheQueen** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 11:41 pm

I have a fabulous idea. Someone else try it, then when I find a fender the right color, and get a new corner lamp, I'll do it if it works. How does that sound?

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 7:20 am

I don't have access to a 90-91 car, but if someone were to pay me for the work and parts, I believe I could make a plug-and-play harness for him/her to try it out without modifying any stock wiring.

LaureltheQueen · Post by **LaureltheQueen** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 6:51 am

about how much would said harness cost?

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 8:09 am

I dunno... the parts themselves would be cheap, 5 or 10 bucks max, but it's harder to say how much the time to collect the pieces and build it would be... 40 bucks maybe?

You'd also want to get amber bulbs for the corner lamps, making sure they were lower wattage than the front turn signal bulbs. That might involve getting brighter front turn signal bulbs (maybe a 3497 for the front turn signal and an 1156NA or 1295NA for the corner lamp); I don't know what bulbs the 90-91 cars come with stock.

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:10 am

Well I tried to get some 2357 and some 1156 (I think) bulbs, which I did successfully, but they didn't fit into my corner lenses. The bulbs are too big. They fit into the socket just fine, well the 1156's did, the 2357's knubs on the side that locks the bulb into place was too large. I wanted to get the exact replacements but I can't find any amber 67 bulbs anywere. Anyone know were I can find them?

-Ryan

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:30 pm

*bump*

No one knows of were I can find amber 61 bulbs?

-Ryan

LaureltheQueen · Post by **LaureltheQueen** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 12:22 am

if you can find orange glass paint at a craft store or fred meyer, then you could just paint clear ones amber.

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:52 am

Your a genious. I'm glad we have a girl on this board.

Post by **Legacy777** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:47 am

georryan wrote:Your a genious. I'm glad we have a girl on this board.

They always think of the more creative solution

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:04 am

georryan wrote:They fit into the socket just fine, well the 1156's did, the 2357's knubs on the side that locks the bulb into place was too large.

Oops, I goofed, sorry -- the 2357 is a dual filament bulb. So obviously it won't fit your corner lamp socket which is meant for a single filament bulb.

1156NA and 1295NA are the only "standard" amber bulbs that would fit in that I know of. The 1295NA is about 50% higher wattage than the 1156NA.

I'm not sure what a 61 or 67 bulb is.

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:50 am

the 1157's are too wide. The 61 bulb is the bulb that is in the corner marker. It is pretty small. I think I could make the 1157 fit in the hole if I cut away at some of the plastic tabs that the socket fits and locks onto. That might be iffy though since circumference of the widest part of the bulb is almost as wide as the socket itself.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:00 am

Oh... Huh.

Sorry about any misinformation I gave, then... I haven't had a 90-91 Legacy in about 5 years.

LaureltheQueen · Post by **LaureltheQueen** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:07 am

thats why girls are better with cars if they're interested. they step back and think outside the box

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:28 am

it's all good vrg3, the blinker was an 1157 though. If that counts.

Agreed Laurel, girls do think outside the box. They have more "vanity" items at their disposal also, which may help, I dunno. Guys just brute force everything. Less finesse, more brute.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:42 am

Wait a minute... the blinkers are 1157s? Not 1156s?

1157s are dual filament. I thought 90-91 Legacies didn't have any dual-filament bulbs except for the tail/brake lights.

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:01 pm

hahah, my bad, sorry. Your right, the single filament 1156's are the blinkers.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:59 pm

I'm always thinking inside the box.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Steve

LaureltheQueen · Post by **LaureltheQueen** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 10:49 pm

bahahahhahaha, that was dirty.

and my employee number is 1156.

Yukonart · Post by **Yukonart** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:08 pm

My kind of people

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