Hi all
After fiiting my adjustable bleed boost valve,£15 and initially seeting it up to take 11.56 psi I decided to go a little further, I have opened it alot more but for some reason it refuses to go any higher and it's probably my imagination but now my car seems to go slower when the boost cuts in !!!!
whats up with that? looking at the gauge needle it zooms up to 11.56 then jumps back a bit, oh yeah I have got the gauge/bleed valve connected to the turbo nipple could this be something to do with it........maybe my pipes are too skinny to handle the flow?
cheers
John
PS Dave, any news about you selling me that boost gauge?
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Dave aka DLC/dackampf
Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
The gauge really needs to be on the manifold. The turbine pressure
can be 5+ pounds HIGHER than what it really is. Air does compress
and cool a bit from the turbo to the intake manifold.
The gauge is for sale still, if you want to pay shipping cross-
atlantic. I'm certain you can find one over there that'll do the job
without the extra price! I've also got a Manual Boost Controller
that i could send along, if you want the "real" thing
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> After fiiting my adjustable bleed boost valve,£15 and initially
seeting it up to take 11.56 psi I decided to go a little further, I
have opened it alot more but for some reason it refuses to go any
higher and it's probably my imagination but now my car seems to go
slower when the boost cuts in !!!!
>
> whats up with that? looking at the gauge needle it zooms up to
11.56 then jumps back a bit, oh yeah I have got the gauge/bleed valve
connected to the turbo nipple could this be something to do with
it........maybe my pipes are too skinny to handle the flow?
>
> cheers
>
> John
>
> PS Dave, any news about you selling me that boost gauge?
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can be 5+ pounds HIGHER than what it really is. Air does compress
and cool a bit from the turbo to the intake manifold.
The gauge is for sale still, if you want to pay shipping cross-
atlantic. I'm certain you can find one over there that'll do the job
without the extra price! I've also got a Manual Boost Controller
that i could send along, if you want the "real" thing
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> After fiiting my adjustable bleed boost valve,£15 and initially
seeting it up to take 11.56 psi I decided to go a little further, I
have opened it alot more but for some reason it refuses to go any
higher and it's probably my imagination but now my car seems to go
slower when the boost cuts in !!!!
>
> whats up with that? looking at the gauge needle it zooms up to
11.56 then jumps back a bit, oh yeah I have got the gauge/bleed valve
connected to the turbo nipple could this be something to do with
it........maybe my pipes are too skinny to handle the flow?
>
> cheers
>
> John
>
> PS Dave, any news about you selling me that boost gauge?
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penty
Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
Hey you cheeky sod! my adjustible boost controler is the real thing I paid a whopping £15 ($20) at that price you can only expect the purest quality that I am accoustomed to0.
I have done a search for VDO gauges and found nout in the UK, maybe I haven't looked hard enough but then I did spend 4 hours looking and ringing around :O
If you give me the area in USA you are from I can check up with DHL/Fedex and see if it is as bad a cost as you think, I'm sure it will only be a couple of dollers
anyways how much do you want for the gauge ? bearing in mind I have 16 kids and 10 ex wives
cheers
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave <mailto:legacycentral@yahoo.com> aka DLC/dackampf
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:41 PM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
The gauge really needs to be on the manifold. The turbine pressure
can be 5+ pounds HIGHER than what it really is. Air does compress
and cool a bit from the turbo to the intake manifold.
The gauge is for sale still, if you want to pay shipping cross-
atlantic. I'm certain you can find one over there that'll do the job
without the extra price! I've also got a Manual Boost Controller
that i could send along, if you want the "real" thing
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" < penty@n...> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> After fiiting my adjustable bleed boost valve,£15 and initially
seeting it up to take 11.56 psi I decided to go a little further, I
have opened it alot more but for some reason it refuses to go any
higher and it's probably my imagination but now my car seems to go
slower when the boost cuts in !!!!
>
> whats up with that? looking at the gauge needle it zooms up to
11.56 then jumps back a bit, oh yeah I have got the gauge/bleed valve
connected to the turbo nipple could this be something to do with
it........maybe my pipes are too skinny to handle the flow?
>
> cheers
>
> John
>
> PS Dave, any news about you selling me that boost gauge?
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I paid a whopping £15 ($20) at that price you can only expect the purest quality that I am accoustomed to0.I have done a search for VDO gauges and found nout in the UK, maybe I haven't looked hard enough but then I did spend 4 hours looking and ringing around :O
If you give me the area in USA you are from I can check up with DHL/Fedex and see if it is as bad a cost as you think, I'm sure it will only be a couple of dollers
anyways how much do you want for the gauge ? bearing in mind I have 16 kids and 10 ex wives
cheers
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave <mailto:legacycentral@yahoo.com> aka DLC/dackampf
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:41 PM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
The gauge really needs to be on the manifold. The turbine pressure
can be 5+ pounds HIGHER than what it really is. Air does compress
and cool a bit from the turbo to the intake manifold.
The gauge is for sale still, if you want to pay shipping cross-
atlantic. I'm certain you can find one over there that'll do the job
without the extra price! I've also got a Manual Boost Controller
that i could send along, if you want the "real" thing
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" < penty@n...> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> After fiiting my adjustable bleed boost valve,£15 and initially
seeting it up to take 11.56 psi I decided to go a little further, I
have opened it alot more but for some reason it refuses to go any
higher and it's probably my imagination but now my car seems to go
slower when the boost cuts in !!!!
>
> whats up with that? looking at the gauge needle it zooms up to
11.56 then jumps back a bit, oh yeah I have got the gauge/bleed valve
connected to the turbo nipple could this be something to do with
it........maybe my pipes are too skinny to handle the flow?
>
> cheers
>
> John
>
> PS Dave, any news about you selling me that boost gauge?
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Dave aka DLC/dackampf
Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
I gauge was $45, plus the connection kit was $10 i think. The
Autometer Pod was ~$25.
Probably $50 for the thing, plus shipping of course.
My Zip is 84408.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...> wrote:
> Hey you cheeky sod! my adjustible boost controler is the real
thing I paid a whopping £15 ($20) at that price you can only
expect the purest quality that I am accoustomed to0.
>
> I have done a search for VDO gauges and found nout in the UK, maybe
I haven't looked hard enough but then I did spend 4 hours looking and
ringing around :O
>
> If you give me the area in USA you are from I can check up with
DHL/Fedex and see if it is as bad a cost as you think, I'm sure it
will only be a couple of dollers
>
> anyways how much do you want for the gauge ? bearing in mind I have
16 kids and 10 ex wives
>
> cheers
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave aka DLC/dackampf
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:41 PM
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
>
>
> The gauge really needs to be on the manifold. The turbine
pressure
> can be 5+ pounds HIGHER than what it really is. Air does
compress
> and cool a bit from the turbo to the intake manifold.
>
> The gauge is for sale still, if you want to pay shipping cross-
> atlantic. I'm certain you can find one over there that'll do the
job
> without the extra price! I've also got a Manual Boost Controller
> that i could send along, if you want the "real" thing
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > After fiiting my adjustable bleed boost valve,£15 and initially
> seeting it up to take 11.56 psi I decided to go a little further,
I
> have opened it alot more but for some reason it refuses to go any
> higher and it's probably my imagination but now my car seems to
go
> slower when the boost cuts in !!!!
> >
> > whats up with that? looking at the gauge needle it zooms up to
> 11.56 then jumps back a bit, oh yeah I have got the gauge/bleed
valve
> connected to the turbo nipple could this be something to do with
> it........maybe my pipes are too skinny to handle the flow?
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > John
> >
> > PS Dave, any news about you selling me that boost gauge?
>
>
>
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Autometer Pod was ~$25.
Probably $50 for the thing, plus shipping of course.
My Zip is 84408.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...> wrote:
> Hey you cheeky sod! my adjustible boost controler is the real
thing
I paid a whopping £15 ($20) at that price you can only expect the purest quality that I am accoustomed to0.
>
> I have done a search for VDO gauges and found nout in the UK, maybe
I haven't looked hard enough but then I did spend 4 hours looking and
ringing around :O
>
> If you give me the area in USA you are from I can check up with
DHL/Fedex and see if it is as bad a cost as you think, I'm sure it
will only be a couple of dollers
>
> anyways how much do you want for the gauge ? bearing in mind I have
16 kids and 10 ex wives
>
> cheers
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave aka DLC/dackampf
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:41 PM
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
>
>
> The gauge really needs to be on the manifold. The turbine
pressure
> can be 5+ pounds HIGHER than what it really is. Air does
compress
> and cool a bit from the turbo to the intake manifold.
>
> The gauge is for sale still, if you want to pay shipping cross-
> atlantic. I'm certain you can find one over there that'll do the
job
> without the extra price! I've also got a Manual Boost Controller
> that i could send along, if you want the "real" thing
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > After fiiting my adjustable bleed boost valve,£15 and initially
> seeting it up to take 11.56 psi I decided to go a little further,
I
> have opened it alot more but for some reason it refuses to go any
> higher and it's probably my imagination but now my car seems to
go
> slower when the boost cuts in !!!!
> >
> > whats up with that? looking at the gauge needle it zooms up to
> 11.56 then jumps back a bit, oh yeah I have got the gauge/bleed
valve
> connected to the turbo nipple could this be something to do with
> it........maybe my pipes are too skinny to handle the flow?
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > John
> >
> > PS Dave, any news about you selling me that boost gauge?
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> BC-BFLegacyWorks-unsubscribe@egroups.com
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penty
Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
Hi!
Whats a Autometer Pod ? what an earth is a Zip code??? is that the area if so can I have it in letters please :~)
so many questions so little time
cheers
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave <mailto:legacycentral@yahoo.com> aka DLC/dackampf
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 9:46 PM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
I gauge was $45, plus the connection kit was $10 i think. The
Autometer Pod was ~$25.
Probably $50 for the thing, plus shipping of course.
My Zip is 84408.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" < penty@n...> wrote:
> Hey you cheeky sod! my adjustible boost controler is the real
thing I paid a whopping £15 ($20) at that price you can only
expect the purest quality that I am accoustomed to0.
>
> I have done a search for VDO gauges and found nout in the UK, maybe
I haven't looked hard enough but then I did spend 4 hours looking and
ringing around :O
>
> If you give me the area in USA you are from I can check up with
DHL/Fedex and see if it is as bad a cost as you think, I'm sure it
will only be a couple of dollers
>
> anyways how much do you want for the gauge ? bearing in mind I have
16 kids and 10 ex wives
>
> cheers
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave aka DLC/dackampf
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:41 PM
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
>
>
> The gauge really needs to be on the manifold. The turbine
pressure
> can be 5+ pounds HIGHER than what it really is. Air does
compress
> and cool a bit from the turbo to the intake manifold.
>
> The gauge is for sale still, if you want to pay shipping cross-
> atlantic. I'm certain you can find one over there that'll do the
job
> without the extra price! I've also got a Manual Boost Controller
> that i could send along, if you want the "real" thing
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" < penty@n...> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > After fiiting my adjustable bleed boost valve,£15 and initially
> seeting it up to take 11.56 psi I decided to go a little further,
I
> have opened it alot more but for some reason it refuses to go any
> higher and it's probably my imagination but now my car seems to
go
> slower when the boost cuts in !!!!
> >
> > whats up with that? looking at the gauge needle it zooms up to
> 11.56 then jumps back a bit, oh yeah I have got the gauge/bleed
valve
> connected to the turbo nipple could this be something to do with
> it........maybe my pipes are too skinny to handle the flow?
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > John
> >
> > PS Dave, any news about you selling me that boost gauge?
>
>
>
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Whats a Autometer Pod ? what an earth is a Zip code??? is that the area if so can I have it in letters please :~)
so many questions so little time
cheers
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave <mailto:legacycentral@yahoo.com> aka DLC/dackampf
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 9:46 PM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
I gauge was $45, plus the connection kit was $10 i think. The
Autometer Pod was ~$25.
Probably $50 for the thing, plus shipping of course.
My Zip is 84408.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" < penty@n...> wrote:
> Hey you cheeky sod! my adjustible boost controler is the real
thing
I paid a whopping £15 ($20) at that price you can only expect the purest quality that I am accoustomed to0.
>
> I have done a search for VDO gauges and found nout in the UK, maybe
I haven't looked hard enough but then I did spend 4 hours looking and
ringing around :O
>
> If you give me the area in USA you are from I can check up with
DHL/Fedex and see if it is as bad a cost as you think, I'm sure it
will only be a couple of dollers
>
> anyways how much do you want for the gauge ? bearing in mind I have
16 kids and 10 ex wives
>
> cheers
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave aka DLC/dackampf
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:41 PM
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
>
>
> The gauge really needs to be on the manifold. The turbine
pressure
> can be 5+ pounds HIGHER than what it really is. Air does
compress
> and cool a bit from the turbo to the intake manifold.
>
> The gauge is for sale still, if you want to pay shipping cross-
> atlantic. I'm certain you can find one over there that'll do the
job
> without the extra price! I've also got a Manual Boost Controller
> that i could send along, if you want the "real" thing
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" < penty@n...> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > After fiiting my adjustable bleed boost valve,£15 and initially
> seeting it up to take 11.56 psi I decided to go a little further,
I
> have opened it alot more but for some reason it refuses to go any
> higher and it's probably my imagination but now my car seems to
go
> slower when the boost cuts in !!!!
> >
> > whats up with that? looking at the gauge needle it zooms up to
> 11.56 then jumps back a bit, oh yeah I have got the gauge/bleed
valve
> connected to the turbo nipple could this be something to do with
> it........maybe my pipes are too skinny to handle the flow?
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > John
> >
> > PS Dave, any news about you selling me that boost gauge?
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
You silly man!
I live in Ogden, Utah. Zip code is a relative number given to all
areas of the United States and it's territories.
The gauge pod is what the gauge is housed in. The gauge came as
that, just the gauge meant to be installed in a pod or panel. The
pod surrounds the gauge so it can be mounted.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Whats a Autometer Pod ? what an earth is a Zip code??? is that the
area if so can I have it in letters please :~)
>
>
> so many questions so little time
>
>
> cheers
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave aka DLC/dackampf
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 9:46 PM
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
>
>
> I gauge was $45, plus the connection kit was $10 i think. The
> Autometer Pod was ~$25.
>
> Probably $50 for the thing, plus shipping of course.
>
> My Zip is 84408.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...> wrote:
> > Hey you cheeky sod! my adjustible boost controler is the real
> thing I paid a whopping £15 ($20) at that price you can only
> expect the purest quality that I am accoustomed to0.
> >
> > I have done a search for VDO gauges and found nout in the UK,
maybe
> I haven't looked hard enough but then I did spend 4 hours looking
and
> ringing around :O
> >
> > If you give me the area in USA you are from I can check up with
> DHL/Fedex and see if it is as bad a cost as you think, I'm sure
it
> will only be a couple of dollers
> >
> > anyways how much do you want for the gauge ? bearing in mind I
have
> 16 kids and 10 ex wives
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > John
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dave aka DLC/dackampf
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:41 PM
> > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
> >
> >
> > The gauge really needs to be on the manifold. The turbine
> pressure
> > can be 5+ pounds HIGHER than what it really is. Air does
> compress
> > and cool a bit from the turbo to the intake manifold.
> >
> > The gauge is for sale still, if you want to pay shipping
cross-
> > atlantic. I'm certain you can find one over there that'll do
the
> job
> > without the extra price! I've also got a Manual Boost
Controller
> > that i could send along, if you want the "real" thing
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...>
wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > After fiiting my adjustable bleed boost valve,£15 and
initially
> > seeting it up to take 11.56 psi I decided to go a little
further,
> I
> > have opened it alot more but for some reason it refuses to go
any
> > higher and it's probably my imagination but now my car seems
to
> go
> > slower when the boost cuts in !!!!
> > >
> > > whats up with that? looking at the gauge needle it zooms
up to
> > 11.56 then jumps back a bit, oh yeah I have got the
gauge/bleed
> valve
> > connected to the turbo nipple could this be something to do
with
> > it........maybe my pipes are too skinny to handle the flow?
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > PS Dave, any news about you selling me that boost gauge?
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > BC-BFLegacyWorks-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
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I live in Ogden, Utah. Zip code is a relative number given to all
areas of the United States and it's territories.
The gauge pod is what the gauge is housed in. The gauge came as
that, just the gauge meant to be installed in a pod or panel. The
pod surrounds the gauge so it can be mounted.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Whats a Autometer Pod ? what an earth is a Zip code??? is that the
area if so can I have it in letters please :~)
>
>
> so many questions so little time
>
>
> cheers
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave aka DLC/dackampf
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 9:46 PM
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
>
>
> I gauge was $45, plus the connection kit was $10 i think. The
> Autometer Pod was ~$25.
>
> Probably $50 for the thing, plus shipping of course.
>
> My Zip is 84408.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...> wrote:
> > Hey you cheeky sod! my adjustible boost controler is the real
> thing
I paid a whopping £15 ($20) at that price you can only > expect the purest quality that I am accoustomed to0.
> >
> > I have done a search for VDO gauges and found nout in the UK,
maybe
> I haven't looked hard enough but then I did spend 4 hours looking
and
> ringing around :O
> >
> > If you give me the area in USA you are from I can check up with
> DHL/Fedex and see if it is as bad a cost as you think, I'm sure
it
> will only be a couple of dollers
> >
> > anyways how much do you want for the gauge ? bearing in mind I
have
> 16 kids and 10 ex wives
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > John
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dave aka DLC/dackampf
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:41 PM
> > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
> >
> >
> > The gauge really needs to be on the manifold. The turbine
> pressure
> > can be 5+ pounds HIGHER than what it really is. Air does
> compress
> > and cool a bit from the turbo to the intake manifold.
> >
> > The gauge is for sale still, if you want to pay shipping
cross-
> > atlantic. I'm certain you can find one over there that'll do
the
> job
> > without the extra price! I've also got a Manual Boost
Controller
> > that i could send along, if you want the "real" thing
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@egroups.com, "penty" <penty@n...>
wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > After fiiting my adjustable bleed boost valve,£15 and
initially
> > seeting it up to take 11.56 psi I decided to go a little
further,
> I
> > have opened it alot more but for some reason it refuses to go
any
> > higher and it's probably my imagination but now my car seems
to
> go
> > slower when the boost cuts in !!!!
> > >
> > > whats up with that? looking at the gauge needle it zooms
up to
> > 11.56 then jumps back a bit, oh yeah I have got the
gauge/bleed
> valve
> > connected to the turbo nipple could this be something to do
with
> > it........maybe my pipes are too skinny to handle the flow?
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > PS Dave, any news about you selling me that boost gauge?
> >
> >
> >
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jason grahn
Boost stuck on 11.56 bar
>anyways how much do you want for the gauge ? bearing in mind I have 16 kids
>and 10 ex wives
okay, sorry, this is a little of topic, but WOAH!
Off-On-A-Tangent Jason
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okay, sorry, this is a little of topic, but WOAH!
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