4eats won't shift past 2nd
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4eats won't shift past 2nd
This is on my 98 legacy outback, I know this is not the right forum for this year. I thought someone here might have an idea of what it could be. It's been a transmission shop for almost two weeks and it still there. It is a reputable shop and the guys are good at what they do there. They told me once and a while they will get a challenge.
Here some history, the 4eats was rebuilt about 1 1/2 years ago, in that time it has worked flawless, it has around 100k on rebuild. The fluid is clean and bright red and full. When it started acting up, it only did it when it was cold, and once it warmed up it was fine. Now it's not wanting to shift to third at any time, hot or cold.
The shop has ran trouble codes, none. Checked the electronics inside and all checked good. Checked the plug connection from trans harness to main harness and all checks out fine. They came to the conclusion that it must be the TCU. We replaced that with a very low mileage one and it is the correct TCU with the same part #s, still does the same thing. What else are they missing?
Here some history, the 4eats was rebuilt about 1 1/2 years ago, in that time it has worked flawless, it has around 100k on rebuild. The fluid is clean and bright red and full. When it started acting up, it only did it when it was cold, and once it warmed up it was fine. Now it's not wanting to shift to third at any time, hot or cold.
The shop has ran trouble codes, none. Checked the electronics inside and all checked good. Checked the plug connection from trans harness to main harness and all checks out fine. They came to the conclusion that it must be the TCU. We replaced that with a very low mileage one and it is the correct TCU with the same part #s, still does the same thing. What else are they missing?
Charles
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
I'm taking a stab in the dark, but it sounds like there may be a fluid restriction somewhere in the valve body. If they've exhausted everything else, I'd try dropping the valve body and disassembling to look for any blockage. Short of that and completely tearing it apart, I'm not sure....
Josh
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Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
Funny I just suddenly started having this issue. Must be an intermittent floater. How difficult is it to get to what you're describing Josh? Any recommendations?
Over a year ago, my tranny slipped like hell, threw a code. I though it was done, then it went away on its own. Slipping stayed, but after some Lucas Stop Slip, it was acceptable. Now its back
Over a year ago, my tranny slipped like hell, threw a code. I though it was done, then it went away on its own. Slipping stayed, but after some Lucas Stop Slip, it was acceptable. Now its back
Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
Update: the shop pulled the pan and metal in the pan. It took them three weeks to run down all the electrical because they believed the transmission was fine. Looks like a planetary gear came apart, little pieces of little gears. The shop now has decided to build a totally different 4eats with a lower mileage mileage.
Charles
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
91Beater wrote:Funny I just suddenly started having this issue. Must be an intermittent floater. How difficult is it to get to what you're describing Josh? Any recommendations?
Over a year ago, my tranny slipped like hell, threw a code. I though it was done, then it went away on its own. Slipping stayed, but after some Lucas Stop Slip, it was acceptable. Now its back
Does your trans slip or does it not shift....or both?
Josh
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2020 Outback Limted XT
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Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
rallyak wrote:Update: the shop pulled the pan and metal in the pan. It took them three weeks to run down all the electrical because they believed the transmission was fine. Looks like a planetary gear came apart, little pieces of little gears. The shop now has decided to build a totally different 4eats with a lower mileage mileage.
That sucks, but at least they found the problem.
Josh
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Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
The trans wouldn't shift, there were no slipping.
Charles
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
New transmission in and it works, but now it has a bad vibration. It idles fairly smooth but if you give it gas it vibrates like it way out of balance. This is when it's in park, the vibration is progressive the more gas you give it the more it vibrates. Getting tired of putting money in something and it's still not right.
Charles
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
Sounds like something either wasn't balanced or installed properly when the shop did the trans. The only other thing I could think of would be something related to the flex plate.
Josh
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2020 Outback Limted XT
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Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
Shop tore the trans out and replaced the converter,but that said there was nothing wrong with it. Now there's no vibration so it must of had a balance issue. It all good now, vibrates like a 2.5 should.
Charles
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
Good to hear.
Josh
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1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT
If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
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Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
Back in the shop, front seal leaking like a mofo. There replacing the torque converter again, the hub is all chew up. I wander how much trash made it in the transmission. I did notice the fluid was darker than it should be.
Charles
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
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Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
I'm thinking you should find a new shop.rallyak wrote:Back in the shop, front seal leaking like a mofo. There replacing the torque converter again, the hub is all chew up. I wander how much trash made it in the transmission. I did notice the fluid was darker than it should be.
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Re: 4eats won't shift past 2nd
The sad part is I've tried most of the other shops and this one seems to be the most honest. We also pick up the car last night and so far it feels good with no vibrations. They didn't charge us but it was another bad converter. I'm sure there getting tired of pulling the transmission for free. I know some of the guys there thinks were crazy for putting money in a car that has that many miles, their quote " is it really worth fixing" , that really pisses me off when people ask me that. Just shut up take my money and fix it right. That's why I do most the work on my cars because I know it is done right.
Charles
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)