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ej22t

Which to choose??

Post by ej22t »

Hi People, I have a 92 Legacy turbo in Toronto Canada and the car has
intercooler, AVC-R, AGX with stock spring, from lower arm bar, up
grade to 19mm rear swaybar ,3" brullen turbo back exahust system and
some of little mods.
But now my engine has a big problem, the crank bearing just wron out
and push the crank toward to the pully; it made the car dump oil as
hell, I took the car to the shop and the guy just very kind and
replace the crank seal to make the oil not leak yet and allow me to
drive until I find an engine to replace it!
Now one of my local used engine shop has the BC Legacy engine ,
should I get it or wait for the used WRX (GC8)engine for my car?
Which one worth it?

Thanks for all the replies,suggections and opinions!

Ben


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Doug Hancock

Which to choose??

Post by Doug Hancock »

Get a B4 liberty (legacy) engine. With STI heads and forged pistons you
can't go wrong. They are half the price of STI items in Australia and a
little bit more then WRX. But saying all that it all comes down to dollars.
If you go ahead with a WRX or B4 motor I would go for the front cut as you
will get all the items you need. Some engine packages are missing some parts
so you might have to folk out more money then the original price for the
front cut.

Regards Doug (Newcastle Australia)

-----Original Message-----
From: ej22t [mailto:b.lam@usa.net]
Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2001 1:55 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Which to choose??


Hi People, I have a 92 Legacy turbo in Toronto Canada and the car has
intercooler, AVC-R, AGX with stock spring, from lower arm bar, up
grade to 19mm rear swaybar ,3" brullen turbo back exahust system and
some of little mods.
But now my engine has a big problem, the crank bearing just wron out
and push the crank toward to the pully; it made the car dump oil as
hell, I took the car to the shop and the guy just very kind and
replace the crank seal to make the oil not leak yet and allow me to
drive until I find an engine to replace it!
Now one of my local used engine shop has the BC Legacy engine ,
should I get it or wait for the used WRX (GC8)engine for my car?
Which one worth it?

Thanks for all the replies,suggections and opinions!

Ben



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milehial2000

Which to choose??

Post by milehial2000 »

I sure wish that we had the choice of engines that you people enjoy
here in the states but my EJ22t is a good motor. I have one tip on
your unfortunate bearing failure incident. I have a friend that has
been working on these motors for many years and he says that one minor
weak spot in these engines is that the thrust is taken by one bearing.
I can believe this as I aquired a spare motor that is low milage and
the only thing wrong with it is the thrust bearing. He says that to
help prevent this problem that a person should keep the disengagement
of the clutch to a minimum as the pressure will contribute to the wear
on this bearing. I have a high performance clutch that places even
more pressure on the bearing so I always pop it into neutral when
standing in traffic or at a light.
AL(CO)





--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
> Get a B4 liberty (legacy) engine. With STI heads and forged pistons
you
> can't go wrong. They are half the price of STI items in Australia
and a
> little bit more then WRX. But saying all that it all comes down to
dollars.
> If you go ahead with a WRX or B4 motor I would go for the front cut
as you
> will get all the items you need. Some engine packages are missing
some parts
> so you might have to folk out more money then the original price for
the
> front cut.
>
> Regards Doug (Newcastle Australia)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ej22t [mailto:b.lam@u...]
> Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2001 1:55 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Which to choose??
>
>
> Hi People, I have a 92 Legacy turbo in Toronto Canada and the car
has
> intercooler, AVC-R, AGX with stock spring, from lower arm bar, up
> grade to 19mm rear swaybar ,3" brullen turbo back exahust system and
> some of little mods.
> But now my engine has a big problem, the crank bearing just wron out
> and push the crank toward to the pully; it made the car dump oil as
> hell, I took the car to the shop and the guy just very kind and
> replace the crank seal to make the oil not leak yet and allow me to
> drive until I find an engine to replace it!
> Now one of my local used engine shop has the BC Legacy engine ,
> should I get it or wait for the used WRX (GC8)engine for my car?
> Which one worth it?
>
> Thanks for all the replies,suggections and opinions!
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, please send an email to:
> BC-BFLegacyWorks-unsubscribe@e...
>
>
>
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ej22t

Which to choose??

Post by ej22t »

Thanks for your infomation, but do you know how much will be the cost
to replace or fix this problem??
BTW, I using the OEM clutch for more then 100000km on my car, I loves
my car and the engine performance thats why I still wants to keep
this car or even replace the engine and keep the car alive!

Ben
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "milehial2000" <acroxford@h...> wrote:
> I sure wish that we had the choice of engines that you people enjoy
> here in the states but my EJ22t is a good motor. I have one tip on
> your unfortunate bearing failure incident. I have a friend that has
> been working on these motors for many years and he says that one
minor
> weak spot in these engines is that the thrust is taken by one
bearing.
> I can believe this as I aquired a spare motor that is low milage
and
> the only thing wrong with it is the thrust bearing. He says that to
> help prevent this problem that a person should keep the
disengagement
> of the clutch to a minimum as the pressure will contribute to the
wear
> on this bearing. I have a high performance clutch that places even
> more pressure on the bearing so I always pop it into neutral when
> standing in traffic or at a light.
> AL(CO)
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
> wrote:
> > Get a B4 liberty (legacy) engine. With STI heads and forged
pistons
> you
> > can't go wrong. They are half the price of STI items in Australia
> and a
> > little bit more then WRX. But saying all that it all comes down
to
> dollars.
> > If you go ahead with a WRX or B4 motor I would go for the front
cut
> as you
> > will get all the items you need. Some engine packages are missing
> some parts
> > so you might have to folk out more money then the original price
for
> the
> > front cut.
> >
> > Regards Doug (Newcastle Australia)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ej22t [mailto:b.lam@u...]
> > Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2001 1:55 PM
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Which to choose??
> >
> >
> > Hi People, I have a 92 Legacy turbo in Toronto Canada and the car
> has
> > intercooler, AVC-R, AGX with stock spring, from lower arm bar, up
> > grade to 19mm rear swaybar ,3" brullen turbo back exahust system
and
> > some of little mods.
> > But now my engine has a big problem, the crank bearing just wron
out
> > and push the crank toward to the pully; it made the car dump oil
as
> > hell, I took the car to the shop and the guy just very kind and
> > replace the crank seal to make the oil not leak yet and allow me
to
> > drive until I find an engine to replace it!
> > Now one of my local used engine shop has the BC Legacy engine ,
> > should I get it or wait for the used WRX (GC8)engine for my car?
> > Which one worth it?
> >
> > Thanks for all the replies,suggections and opinions!
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, please send an email to:
> > BC-BFLegacyWorks-unsubscribe@e...
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


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milehial2000

Which to choose??

Post by milehial2000 »

I would think that the problem could be fixed by replacing the bearing
and the other bearings should be replaced at the same time as I
think they come in a set. Other than that a complete gasket and seal
set would be needed. I checked the crankshaft and the cylinders in my
engine and they are almost perfect. The labor is probably the big
expense on a job like this as the motor has to be pretty well taken
apart to replace parts like these. Subaru also has a short block
assembly available that would cure the problem.
AL(CO)




--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "ej22t" <b.lam@u...> wrote:
> Thanks for your infomation, but do you know how much will be the
cost
> to replace or fix this problem??
> BTW, I using the OEM clutch for more then 100000km on my car, I
loves
> my car and the engine performance thats why I still wants to keep
> this car or even replace the engine and keep the car alive!
>
> Ben
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "milehial2000" <acroxford@h...> wrote:
> > I sure wish that we had the choice of engines that you people
enjoy
> > here in the states but my EJ22t is a good motor. I have one tip on
> > your unfortunate bearing failure incident. I have a friend that
has
> > been working on these motors for many years and he says that one
> minor
> > weak spot in these engines is that the thrust is taken by one
> bearing.
> > I can believe this as I aquired a spare motor that is low milage
> and
> > the only thing wrong with it is the thrust bearing. He says that
to
> > help prevent this problem that a person should keep the
> disengagement
> > of the clutch to a minimum as the pressure will contribute to the
> wear
> > on this bearing. I have a high performance clutch that places even
> > more pressure on the bearing so I always pop it into neutral when
> > standing in traffic or at a light.
> > AL(CO)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
> > wrote:
> > > Get a B4 liberty (legacy) engine. With STI heads and forged
> pistons
> > you
> > > can't go wrong. They are half the price of STI items in
Australia
> > and a
> > > little bit more then WRX. But saying all that it all comes down
> to
> > dollars.
> > > If you go ahead with a WRX or B4 motor I would go for the front
> cut
> > as you
> > > will get all the items you need. Some engine packages are
missing
> > some parts
> > > so you might have to folk out more money then the original price
> for
> > the
> > > front cut.
> > >
> > > Regards Doug (Newcastle Australia)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ej22t [mailto:b.lam@u...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2001 1:55 PM
> > > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Which to choose??
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi People, I have a 92 Legacy turbo in Toronto Canada and the
car
> > has
> > > intercooler, AVC-R, AGX with stock spring, from lower arm bar,
up
> > > grade to 19mm rear swaybar ,3" brullen turbo back exahust system
> and
> > > some of little mods.
> > > But now my engine has a big problem, the crank bearing just wron
> out
> > > and push the crank toward to the pully; it made the car dump oil
> as
> > > hell, I took the car to the shop and the guy just very kind and
> > > replace the crank seal to make the oil not leak yet and allow me
> to
> > > drive until I find an engine to replace it!
> > > Now one of my local used engine shop has the BC Legacy engine ,
> > > should I get it or wait for the used WRX (GC8)engine for my car?
> > > Which one worth it?
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the replies,suggections and opinions!
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, please send an email to:
> > > BC-BFLegacyWorks-unsubscribe@e...
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


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subman2001nz

Which to choose??

Post by subman2001nz »

You are more limited with the B4 motor as nobody makes after market
chips for them.

Dan

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
> Get a B4 liberty (legacy) engine. With STI heads and forged pistons
you
> can't go wrong. They are half the price of STI items in Australia
and a
> little bit more then WRX. But saying all that it all comes down to
dollars.
> If you go ahead with a WRX or B4 motor I would go for the front cut
as you
> will get all the items you need. Some engine packages are missing
some parts
> so you might have to folk out more money then the original price
for the
> front cut.
>
> Regards Doug (Newcastle Australia)



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ej22t

Which to choose??

Post by ej22t »

Since my car is BC style, I don't think I will put an B4 engine on to
my car eventhough I know someone in Japan did the swap!
I would like to put the WRX or STi engine but depands on the cost of
the engine!
Ben


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Doug Hancock

Which to choose??

Post by Doug Hancock »

What do you need a chip for with that much power. Besides for the price of a
chip I would put an after market computer that can be tuned for every mod
that you make.

-----Original Message-----
From: subman2001nz [mailto:daniel.wilson@db.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2001 8:28 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Which to choose??


You are more limited with the B4 motor as nobody makes after market
chips for them.

Dan

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
> Get a B4 liberty (legacy) engine. With STI heads and forged pistons
you
> can't go wrong. They are half the price of STI items in Australia
and a
> little bit more then WRX. But saying all that it all comes down to
dollars.
> If you go ahead with a WRX or B4 motor I would go for the front cut
as you
> will get all the items you need. Some engine packages are missing
some parts
> so you might have to folk out more money then the original price
for the
> front cut.
>
> Regards Doug (Newcastle Australia)




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subman2001nz

Which to choose??

Post by subman2001nz »

Because 286Hp is a lot less than 400-600Hp which you can get from the
WRX motor.

Dan

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
> What do you need a chip for with that much power. Besides for the
price of a
> chip I would put an after market computer that can be tuned for
every mod
> that you make.



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