I drive a 93 non turbo Legacy. I was thinking of building a custom
cold air intake until i was told by a friend that someone he knew
removed the "snorkus" from his legacy and acheived decent results
that way. After church on Easter I set out to remove this so
called "snorkus". I found it but was unable to determine how to get
it out of the fender...metal on all 3 sides and a plastic sheild that
goes all the way around the front wheel well on the bottom. Does
anyone have detailed directions on how to get at the thing? I got as
far as removing the air box and called off the project until i was
more familiarized with the car. ( I drove a 91 Civic before this.
Lots of aftermarket parts and a zippy engine but not enough life left
in it to make it a player.) Thanks in advance.
-Jack-
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jason grahn
Snorkus Removal
Jack-
You're almost there.
Take out the inner fender plastic cover. There are just a couple of screws
and bolts holding it in. After doing that, remove the nut that holds the
snorkle in place that is inside the engine bay. With a little shake here and
a nudge there, you're snorkle should come out w/ no probs.
Welcome to the Legacy group. I know when I first upgraded from the teeny
little car I had before (Geo Metro) to my legacy I thought i was driving a
yaught. Of course a civic is a lot less of a slouch then a metro. Did you
ever consider turbocharging it?
Did you get an AWD Legacy? Sedan? Whats the scoop?
-Jason
(working on easter.
>From: "limpbiz915" <limpbiz915@yahoo.com>
>
>goes all the way around the front wheel well on the bottom. Does
>anyone have detailed directions on how to get at the thing? I got as
>far as removing the air box and called off the project until i was
>more familiarized with the car. ( I drove a 91 Civic before this.
>Lots of aftermarket parts and a zippy engine but not enough life left
>in it to make it a player.) Thanks in advance.
>
>-Jack-
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You're almost there.
Take out the inner fender plastic cover. There are just a couple of screws
and bolts holding it in. After doing that, remove the nut that holds the
snorkle in place that is inside the engine bay. With a little shake here and
a nudge there, you're snorkle should come out w/ no probs.
Welcome to the Legacy group. I know when I first upgraded from the teeny
little car I had before (Geo Metro) to my legacy I thought i was driving a
yaught. Of course a civic is a lot less of a slouch then a metro. Did you
ever consider turbocharging it?
Did you get an AWD Legacy? Sedan? Whats the scoop?
-Jason
(working on easter.
>From: "limpbiz915" <limpbiz915@yahoo.com>
>
>goes all the way around the front wheel well on the bottom. Does
>anyone have detailed directions on how to get at the thing? I got as
>far as removing the air box and called off the project until i was
>more familiarized with the car. ( I drove a 91 Civic before this.
>Lots of aftermarket parts and a zippy engine but not enough life left
>in it to make it a player.) Thanks in advance.
>
>-Jack-
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Simon LaRochelle
Snorkus Removal
It's fun you ask that today!! I just finished removing it!!! I have a 92 turbo sedan. I guess it's the same patern. Here's how I did it.
I removed the air filter box. There are 4 screws. To make it easier, untight the MAF and unplug it. The silencer is fixed with 2 baults. One is under the air-filter box and the other one is at the bottom of the silencer. Remove the silencer, fix all you removed and you're done.
But there is one thing I don't like. Since I don't have fender protector inside the fender, I can see the air-filter trough the hole where the silencer was fixed. I realy dont like that. Will water do some damage?? I think I will try to fit a pipe from the hole to the front of the fender so water won't get in.
Anyone did that befor and found a better solution??
Now I have a question about cold air intake. What would be a good air-intake for a Legacy Turbo?(US).
Thanks
Simon
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Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Snorkus Removal
I drive a 93 non turbo Legacy. I was thinking of building a custom
cold air intake until i was told by a friend that someone he knew
removed the "snorkus" from his legacy and acheived decent results
that way. After church on Easter I set out to remove this so
called "snorkus". I found it but was unable to determine how to get
it out of the fender...metal on all 3 sides and a plastic sheild that
goes all the way around the front wheel well on the bottom. Does
anyone have detailed directions on how to get at the thing? I got as
far as removing the air box and called off the project until i was
more familiarized with the car. ( I drove a 91 Civic before this.
Lots of aftermarket parts and a zippy engine but not enough life left
in it to make it a player.) Thanks in advance.
-Jack-
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I removed the air filter box. There are 4 screws. To make it easier, untight the MAF and unplug it. The silencer is fixed with 2 baults. One is under the air-filter box and the other one is at the bottom of the silencer. Remove the silencer, fix all you removed and you're done.
But there is one thing I don't like. Since I don't have fender protector inside the fender, I can see the air-filter trough the hole where the silencer was fixed. I realy dont like that. Will water do some damage?? I think I will try to fit a pipe from the hole to the front of the fender so water won't get in.
Anyone did that befor and found a better solution??
Now I have a question about cold air intake. What would be a good air-intake for a Legacy Turbo?(US).
Thanks
Simon
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To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 4:44 PM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Snorkus Removal
I drive a 93 non turbo Legacy. I was thinking of building a custom
cold air intake until i was told by a friend that someone he knew
removed the "snorkus" from his legacy and acheived decent results
that way. After church on Easter I set out to remove this so
called "snorkus". I found it but was unable to determine how to get
it out of the fender...metal on all 3 sides and a plastic sheild that
goes all the way around the front wheel well on the bottom. Does
anyone have detailed directions on how to get at the thing? I got as
far as removing the air box and called off the project until i was
more familiarized with the car. ( I drove a 91 Civic before this.
Lots of aftermarket parts and a zippy engine but not enough life left
in it to make it a player.) Thanks in advance.
-Jack-
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limpbiz915
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Its a front wheel drive sedan with a 5 Speed. I would have waited
for a newer sube or one with all wheel drive but my neibor let me
have it for 500 bucks. Its got 130k miles on it and still pulls
strong. The clutch feels like its slipping just a tad when the
engine is cold. The local shop owner and i are good friends so i
already secured a new one for another 500 dollars. So the car is
basicly costing me 1 grand. Not bad i guess. Im also looking for a
set of the 16x6.5 wheels from a legacy gt if anyone knows where i can
find a set fairly inexpensive.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...> wrote:
> Jack-
>
> You're almost there.
>
> Take out the inner fender plastic cover. There are just a couple of
screws
> and bolts holding it in. After doing that, remove the nut that
holds the
> snorkle in place that is inside the engine bay. With a little shake
here and
> a nudge there, you're snorkle should come out w/ no probs.
>
> Welcome to the Legacy group. I know when I first upgraded from the
teeny
> little car I had before (Geo Metro) to my legacy I thought i was
driving a
> yaught. Of course a civic is a lot less of a slouch then a metro.
Did you
> ever consider turbocharging it?
>
> Did you get an AWD Legacy? Sedan? Whats the scoop?
>
> -Jason
> (working on easter.
>
>
>
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for a newer sube or one with all wheel drive but my neibor let me
have it for 500 bucks. Its got 130k miles on it and still pulls
strong. The clutch feels like its slipping just a tad when the
engine is cold. The local shop owner and i are good friends so i
already secured a new one for another 500 dollars. So the car is
basicly costing me 1 grand. Not bad i guess. Im also looking for a
set of the 16x6.5 wheels from a legacy gt if anyone knows where i can
find a set fairly inexpensive.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@h...> wrote:
> Jack-
>
> You're almost there.
>
> Take out the inner fender plastic cover. There are just a couple of
screws
> and bolts holding it in. After doing that, remove the nut that
holds the
> snorkle in place that is inside the engine bay. With a little shake
here and
> a nudge there, you're snorkle should come out w/ no probs.
>
> Welcome to the Legacy group. I know when I first upgraded from the
teeny
> little car I had before (Geo Metro) to my legacy I thought i was
driving a
> yaught. Of course a civic is a lot less of a slouch then a metro.
Did you
> ever consider turbocharging it?
>
> Did you get an AWD Legacy? Sedan? Whats the scoop?
>
> -Jason
> (working on easter.
>
>
>
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Ryan Lalonde
Snorkus Removal
Hey there. I just bought my AWD drive 92 Turbo Legacy for $500cdn And I
put about $1000 in so far. that makes a total of $1500 = AWD
turbocharged glory. Sadly my engine has 333,000km and I don't think my
turbo is working (at least my turbo light in the cockpit doesn't
illuminate on the dash), I need a boost gauge! tell me what kind of
gains you got by removing the snorkus and if you do Jack then tell me
the differences it made. I love the forum
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put about $1000 in so far. that makes a total of $1500 = AWD
turbocharged glory. Sadly my engine has 333,000km and I don't think my
turbo is working (at least my turbo light in the cockpit doesn't
illuminate on the dash), I need a boost gauge! tell me what kind of
gains you got by removing the snorkus and if you do Jack then tell me
the differences it made. I love the forum
BC-BFLegacyWorksRocks
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limpbiz915
Snorkus Removal
Well i finally got the snorkus out and that coupled with a k&n drop
in filter have been pretty impressive both sound and performance
wise. the roads were still wet when i first tested it but a
noticiable change at first was the fact that the front tires will
break themselve lose on the first to second shift and stay that way
unless i let off the gas on a wet road. never been able to do that
before. also the engine sounds alot meaner. almost like a sport
exhaust only its under your hood. one problem with the car since i
took it out though...at around 1000 rpms with the car in 4th or 5th
gear, a sudden mashing on the gas will result in the car doing
nothing except bogging itself down and losing engine speed...im
guessing this is due to the lost of back pressure caused by the freer
breathing engine??? I dunno but i did race my buddys 95 jetta and
beat him for the first time this morning. this is with the dying
clutch. lol i love this engine i have a feeling i could be could be
on to something big here with the 2.2 engine.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Ryan Lalonde <dc-burnout@r...> wrote:
> Hey there. I just bought my AWD drive 92 Turbo Legacy for $500cdn
And I
> put about $1000 in so far. that makes a total of $1500 = AWD
> turbocharged glory. Sadly my engine has 333,000km and I don't
think my
> turbo is working (at least my turbo light in the cockpit doesn't
> illuminate on the dash), I need a boost gauge! tell me what kind of
> gains you got by removing the snorkus and if you do Jack then tell
me
> the differences it made. I love the forum
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in filter have been pretty impressive both sound and performance
wise. the roads were still wet when i first tested it but a
noticiable change at first was the fact that the front tires will
break themselve lose on the first to second shift and stay that way
unless i let off the gas on a wet road. never been able to do that
before. also the engine sounds alot meaner. almost like a sport
exhaust only its under your hood. one problem with the car since i
took it out though...at around 1000 rpms with the car in 4th or 5th
gear, a sudden mashing on the gas will result in the car doing
nothing except bogging itself down and losing engine speed...im
guessing this is due to the lost of back pressure caused by the freer
breathing engine??? I dunno but i did race my buddys 95 jetta and
beat him for the first time this morning. this is with the dying
clutch. lol i love this engine i have a feeling i could be could be
on to something big here with the 2.2 engine.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Ryan Lalonde <dc-burnout@r...> wrote:
> Hey there. I just bought my AWD drive 92 Turbo Legacy for $500cdn
And I
> put about $1000 in so far. that makes a total of $1500 = AWD
> turbocharged glory. Sadly my engine has 333,000km and I don't
think my
> turbo is working (at least my turbo light in the cockpit doesn't
> illuminate on the dash), I need a boost gauge! tell me what kind of
> gains you got by removing the snorkus and if you do Jack then tell
me
> the differences it made. I love the forum
> BC-BFLegacyWorksRocks
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rodeddy
Snorkus Removal
ryan,
on the turbo engine there greater benifits than from a N/A engine.
you should not only remove the under gaurd resonator but also remove
the rubber ring from the air filter box to give you a near 3" open
hole - free flowing setup. On the turbo car it will breathe heaps
better and make low speed driveability better. Add a really good free
flow FULL 3" exhaust and watch it gooooooo.......
If you want more info send me your email address.
cheers, Rod ..in OZ
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Ryan Lalonde <dc-burnout@r...> wrote:
> Hey there. I just bought my AWD drive 92 Turbo Legacy for $500cdn
And I
> put about $1000 in so far. that makes a total of $1500 = AWD
> turbocharged glory. Sadly my engine has 333,000km and I don't
think my
> turbo is working (at least my turbo light in the cockpit doesn't
> illuminate on the dash), I need a boost gauge! tell me what kind of
> gains you got by removing the snorkus and if you do Jack then tell
me
> the differences it made. I love the forum
> BC-BFLegacyWorksRocks
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on the turbo engine there greater benifits than from a N/A engine.
you should not only remove the under gaurd resonator but also remove
the rubber ring from the air filter box to give you a near 3" open
hole - free flowing setup. On the turbo car it will breathe heaps
better and make low speed driveability better. Add a really good free
flow FULL 3" exhaust and watch it gooooooo.......
If you want more info send me your email address.
cheers, Rod ..in OZ
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Ryan Lalonde <dc-burnout@r...> wrote:
> Hey there. I just bought my AWD drive 92 Turbo Legacy for $500cdn
And I
> put about $1000 in so far. that makes a total of $1500 = AWD
> turbocharged glory. Sadly my engine has 333,000km and I don't
think my
> turbo is working (at least my turbo light in the cockpit doesn't
> illuminate on the dash), I need a boost gauge! tell me what kind of
> gains you got by removing the snorkus and if you do Jack then tell
me
> the differences it made. I love the forum
> BC-BFLegacyWorksRocks
> ryan-
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slags_83
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Trust me the 2.2 is far from a performance engine, I used to get
rolled by Taurus's and Cavaliers all the time.....try a WRX, you'll
never go back!
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DNA_Man
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Dood... the Taurus and Cavalier both have a V6...
I can tell you from experience that the advantage of a well-tuned
Legacy is not going to be seen in a drag race. However, get it in the
dirt, and you can smoke the two aforementioned peices of sh**
WRXs only have a 1998cc, and if they're not turbo, then they are a
little slower. Especially in the dirt. AWD sucks. 4WD rules. Heheee
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I can tell you from experience that the advantage of a well-tuned
Legacy is not going to be seen in a drag race. However, get it in the
dirt, and you can smoke the two aforementioned peices of sh**
WRXs only have a 1998cc, and if they're not turbo, then they are a
little slower. Especially in the dirt. AWD sucks. 4WD rules. Heheee
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> Trust me the 2.2 is far from a performance engine, I used to get
> rolled by Taurus's and Cavaliers all the time.....try a WRX, you'll
> never go back!
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j k
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Maybe if you knew more abut Subaru's than how to put on decals, a loud
muffler, and some god awful spoiler you wouldn't have gotten smoked.
Instead of wasting money on making your 2.2 look like it was off the Fast
and the Furious, you should have been spending quality time with the most
important thing on your car when racing, your motor. That, and learning how
to drive. Next time, try a 2.2 that is built right, the only WRX's you
would have been looking at were in your rear view mirror.
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>Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:526 -0000
>
>Trust me the 2.2 is far from a performance engine, I used to get
>rolled by Taurus's and Cavaliers all the time.....try a WRX, you'll
>never go back!
>
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muffler, and some god awful spoiler you wouldn't have gotten smoked.
Instead of wasting money on making your 2.2 look like it was off the Fast
and the Furious, you should have been spending quality time with the most
important thing on your car when racing, your motor. That, and learning how
to drive. Next time, try a 2.2 that is built right, the only WRX's you
would have been looking at were in your rear view mirror.
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>Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Snorkus Removal
>Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:526 -0000
>
>Trust me the 2.2 is far from a performance engine, I used to get
>rolled by Taurus's and Cavaliers all the time.....try a WRX, you'll
>never go back!
>
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Josh Colombo
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You obviously haven't rode in my legacy. The 2.2 has a lot of potential. Take Rod's turbo conversion.......driver has a lot to do with how a car performs too.
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never go back!
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Trust me the 2.2 is far from a performance engine, I used to get
rolled by Taurus's and Cavaliers all the time.....try a WRX, you'll
never go back!
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Snorkus Removal
I froze my ass off today but finally removed the
snorkus from inside the fender well. It wasn't easy
as I live in Colorado and try to drive in as much
incliment weather as possible therefore all the screw
pin thingys were covered in mud. I did the ECU reset
that was recommended by the i-club guy too. Basically
I unplugged the battery before I did anything else,
removed everything, took out snorkel, put everything
else back in, plugged battery back up then let car
warm up, turned it off, turned it back on and drove
away. I had the KN filter already there and don't
notice a whole lot of difference. Where I do is
between 3 and 4K RPMS acceleration-wise, and really
notice the sound. It's not loud and obnoxious. The
best way I can describe it is that it sounds like my
engine is really running now. When I think how it
used to sound I seems like it was struggling. Now it
has a rumble and the full force of the engine is felt.
Next task, Unorthodox pulley.
Grant
--- Josh Colombo <josh@surrealmirage.com> wrote:
> You obviously haven't rode in my legacy. The 2.2
> has a lot of potential. Take Rod's turbo
> conversion.......driver has a lot to do with how a
> car performs too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
>
> Trust me the 2.2 is far from a performance engine,
> I used to get
> rolled by Taurus's and Cavaliers all the
> time.....try a WRX, you'll
> never go back!
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snorkus from inside the fender well. It wasn't easy
as I live in Colorado and try to drive in as much
incliment weather as possible therefore all the screw
pin thingys were covered in mud. I did the ECU reset
that was recommended by the i-club guy too. Basically
I unplugged the battery before I did anything else,
removed everything, took out snorkel, put everything
else back in, plugged battery back up then let car
warm up, turned it off, turned it back on and drove
away. I had the KN filter already there and don't
notice a whole lot of difference. Where I do is
between 3 and 4K RPMS acceleration-wise, and really
notice the sound. It's not loud and obnoxious. The
best way I can describe it is that it sounds like my
engine is really running now. When I think how it
used to sound I seems like it was struggling. Now it
has a rumble and the full force of the engine is felt.
Next task, Unorthodox pulley.
Grant
--- Josh Colombo <josh@surrealmirage.com> wrote:
> You obviously haven't rode in my legacy. The 2.2
> has a lot of potential. Take Rod's turbo
> conversion.......driver has a lot to do with how a
> car performs too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: slags_83 [mailto:slags_83@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tue 4/2/2002 9:52 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Cc:
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Snorkus Removal
>
>
>
> Trust me the 2.2 is far from a performance engine,
> I used to get
> rolled by Taurus's and Cavaliers all the
> time.....try a WRX, you'll
> never go back!
>
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Snorkus Removal
<Maybe if you knew more abut Subaru's than how to put
on decals, a loud
muffler, and some god awful spoiler you wouldn't have
gotten smoked.
Instead of wasting money on making your 2.2 look like
it was off the Fast
and the Furious, you should have been spending quality
time with the most
important thing on your car when racing, your motor.
That, and learning how
to drive. Next time, try a 2.2 that is built right,
the only WRX's you
would have been looking at were in your rear view
mirror.>
Alright first my Legacy is a 2.2 NA with no stickers,
obnoxious wings, or other rice car paraphanelia. It is
bone stock except for some American Racing wheels(not
chrome). Second I will give you a thousand dollars if
you can get a USDM Legacy 2.2 tuned enough to beat a
WRX. The WRX is a fine machine with a tuned motor, the
Legacy is well the Legacy, with a small underpowered
2.2 liter pumpin out about 160 horses and a little
more than that with the turbo. So if you want to play
little Fast and the Furious rice boy then you should
of picked up something a little more potent than the
Legacy. At least then you could have played rice boy
with a somewhat competent automobile. IMO the Legacy
is as about as far away as you can get from having a
performance car. Don't get me wrong I like my Legacy,
it's dependable and still runs strong, but when I want
performance I'll look elsewhere(WRX). The most
important component of a good race car is not the
engine, if you weren't so busy dreamin about the Fast
and the Furious you'd know this. It's the driver, it's
all skills. You can have the fastest most powerful
engine in the world but it doesn't mean jack if you
don't know how to control the car. Why waste time and
money with a Legacy when you can have a WRX for the
amount of money you prolly have dumped in your
engine??? And it is new, has AWD, better
wheels,suspension, the list goes on....
I won't seriously consider the Legacy as a performance
car until the US sees the likes of the B4 or something comparable.
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on decals, a loud
muffler, and some god awful spoiler you wouldn't have
gotten smoked.
Instead of wasting money on making your 2.2 look like
it was off the Fast
and the Furious, you should have been spending quality
time with the most
important thing on your car when racing, your motor.
That, and learning how
to drive. Next time, try a 2.2 that is built right,
the only WRX's you
would have been looking at were in your rear view
mirror.>
Alright first my Legacy is a 2.2 NA with no stickers,
obnoxious wings, or other rice car paraphanelia. It is
bone stock except for some American Racing wheels(not
chrome). Second I will give you a thousand dollars if
you can get a USDM Legacy 2.2 tuned enough to beat a
WRX. The WRX is a fine machine with a tuned motor, the
Legacy is well the Legacy, with a small underpowered
2.2 liter pumpin out about 160 horses and a little
more than that with the turbo. So if you want to play
little Fast and the Furious rice boy then you should
of picked up something a little more potent than the
Legacy. At least then you could have played rice boy
with a somewhat competent automobile. IMO the Legacy
is as about as far away as you can get from having a
performance car. Don't get me wrong I like my Legacy,
it's dependable and still runs strong, but when I want
performance I'll look elsewhere(WRX). The most
important component of a good race car is not the
engine, if you weren't so busy dreamin about the Fast
and the Furious you'd know this. It's the driver, it's
all skills. You can have the fastest most powerful
engine in the world but it doesn't mean jack if you
don't know how to control the car. Why waste time and
money with a Legacy when you can have a WRX for the
amount of money you prolly have dumped in your
engine??? And it is new, has AWD, better
wheels,suspension, the list goes on....
I won't seriously consider the Legacy as a performance
car until the US sees the likes of the B4 or something comparable.
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DNA_Man
Snorkus Removal
Dood, you owe me a thousand dollars. I regularly smoke WRXs in my 90
Legacy. You don't know what you are talking about. Listen to the
experts in this forum before you shoot your mouth off. Oh yeah, and
email me off-list for the address to send that thousand bucks.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Mike Slagley <slags_83@y...> wrote:
> <Maybe if you knew more abut Subaru's than how to put
> on decals, a loud
> muffler, and some god awful spoiler you wouldn't have
> gotten smoked.
> Instead of wasting money on making your 2.2 look like
> it was off the Fast
> and the Furious, you should have been spending quality
> time with the most
> important thing on your car when racing, your motor.
> That, and learning how
> to drive. Next time, try a 2.2 that is built right,
> the only WRX's you
> would have been looking at were in your rear view
> mirror.>
>
>
>
> Alright first my Legacy is a 2.2 NA with no stickers,
> obnoxious wings, or other rice car paraphanelia. It is
> bone stock except for some American Racing wheels(not
> chrome). Second I will give you a thousand dollars if
> you can get a USDM Legacy 2.2 tuned enough to beat a
> WRX. The WRX is a fine machine with a tuned motor, the
> Legacy is well the Legacy, with a small underpowered
> 2.2 liter pumpin out about 160 horses and a little
> more than that with the turbo. So if you want to play
> little Fast and the Furious rice boy then you should
> of picked up something a little more potent than the
> Legacy. At least then you could have played rice boy
> with a somewhat competent automobile. IMO the Legacy
> is as about as far away as you can get from having a
> performance car. Don't get me wrong I like my Legacy,
> it's dependable and still runs strong, but when I want
> performance I'll look elsewhere(WRX). The most
> important component of a good race car is not the
> engine, if you weren't so busy dreamin about the Fast
> and the Furious you'd know this. It's the driver, it's
> all skills. You can have the fastest most powerful
> engine in the world but it doesn't mean jack if you
> don't know how to control the car. Why waste time and
> money with a Legacy when you can have a WRX for the
> amount of money you prolly have dumped in your
> engine??? And it is new, has AWD, better
> wheels,suspension, the list goes on....
> I won't seriously consider the Legacy as a performance
> car until the US sees the likes of the B4 or something comparable.
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Legacy. You don't know what you are talking about. Listen to the
experts in this forum before you shoot your mouth off. Oh yeah, and
email me off-list for the address to send that thousand bucks.
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Mike Slagley <slags_83@y...> wrote:
> <Maybe if you knew more abut Subaru's than how to put
> on decals, a loud
> muffler, and some god awful spoiler you wouldn't have
> gotten smoked.
> Instead of wasting money on making your 2.2 look like
> it was off the Fast
> and the Furious, you should have been spending quality
> time with the most
> important thing on your car when racing, your motor.
> That, and learning how
> to drive. Next time, try a 2.2 that is built right,
> the only WRX's you
> would have been looking at were in your rear view
> mirror.>
>
>
>
> Alright first my Legacy is a 2.2 NA with no stickers,
> obnoxious wings, or other rice car paraphanelia. It is
> bone stock except for some American Racing wheels(not
> chrome). Second I will give you a thousand dollars if
> you can get a USDM Legacy 2.2 tuned enough to beat a
> WRX. The WRX is a fine machine with a tuned motor, the
> Legacy is well the Legacy, with a small underpowered
> 2.2 liter pumpin out about 160 horses and a little
> more than that with the turbo. So if you want to play
> little Fast and the Furious rice boy then you should
> of picked up something a little more potent than the
> Legacy. At least then you could have played rice boy
> with a somewhat competent automobile. IMO the Legacy
> is as about as far away as you can get from having a
> performance car. Don't get me wrong I like my Legacy,
> it's dependable and still runs strong, but when I want
> performance I'll look elsewhere(WRX). The most
> important component of a good race car is not the
> engine, if you weren't so busy dreamin about the Fast
> and the Furious you'd know this. It's the driver, it's
> all skills. You can have the fastest most powerful
> engine in the world but it doesn't mean jack if you
> don't know how to control the car. Why waste time and
> money with a Legacy when you can have a WRX for the
> amount of money you prolly have dumped in your
> engine??? And it is new, has AWD, better
> wheels,suspension, the list goes on....
> I won't seriously consider the Legacy as a performance
> car until the US sees the likes of the B4 or something comparable.
>
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slags_83
Snorkus Removal
Ok now you do know the difference between the Impreza L and
the WRX don't you?????
I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because I know you are
lieing, you just don't want to believe your Legacy is not the sports
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the WRX don't you?????
I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because I know you are
lieing, you just don't want to believe your Legacy is not the sports
car you think it is...
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DNA_Man
Snorkus Removal
You know I am lying?
I can prove it. Obviously I wouldn't make such a claim without
evidence. The web site is down right now, and I don't expect you to
send, or even have, a thousand dollars (especially if you sunk it
into a WRX), but check out www.coloradorally.org under "results",
whenever the freekin site is back. I've clocked my Legacy at 0-60 in
9.5. I'm not sure how that compares to the WRX, but it doesn't
matter, results speak for them selves. Out of 17 subarus... 14 WRXs,
2 Legacys and one bad-ass 2.5RS, 3 of the WRXs beat me. I think
beating 11 WRXs in a car 10 years older is pretty freekin good, and
if you don't think so, that's your problem.
The difference between the Impreza L and WRX.
The Impreza L runs a single-cam 2212cc normally-aspirated flat 4.
The WRX has a 1998cc Turbo charged dual-cam flat 4 with an
intercooler.
And that's just the engines... do you take me for an idiot?
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "slags_83" <slags_83@y...> wrote:
> Ok now you do know the difference between the Impreza L and
> the WRX don't you?????
> I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because I know you are
> lieing, you just don't want to believe your Legacy is not the
sports
> car you think it is...
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I can prove it. Obviously I wouldn't make such a claim without
evidence. The web site is down right now, and I don't expect you to
send, or even have, a thousand dollars (especially if you sunk it
into a WRX), but check out www.coloradorally.org under "results",
whenever the freekin site is back. I've clocked my Legacy at 0-60 in
9.5. I'm not sure how that compares to the WRX, but it doesn't
matter, results speak for them selves. Out of 17 subarus... 14 WRXs,
2 Legacys and one bad-ass 2.5RS, 3 of the WRXs beat me. I think
beating 11 WRXs in a car 10 years older is pretty freekin good, and
if you don't think so, that's your problem.
The difference between the Impreza L and WRX.
The Impreza L runs a single-cam 2212cc normally-aspirated flat 4.
The WRX has a 1998cc Turbo charged dual-cam flat 4 with an
intercooler.
And that's just the engines... do you take me for an idiot?
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "slags_83" <slags_83@y...> wrote:
> Ok now you do know the difference between the Impreza L and
> the WRX don't you?????
> I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because I know you are
> lieing, you just don't want to believe your Legacy is not the
sports
> car you think it is...
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Grant Hughes
Snorkus Removal
Okay Mike, just for fun I'll let you in on a little
Legacy history. The Legacy was designed in 1989. A
little side division of Subaru, called Subaru Technica
International was formed at about the same time to
find a way for the Legacy to prove itself and to help
it when it came out. They started out with the
100,000 km drive. They secretly shipped three
Legacies to a raceway in Phoenix, AZ and ran the cars
for about 18 hours and an average speed of about 138
miles per hour and broke the record. The old record
had been set by a Saab (I think) and the avg. speed of
the old record was 123 mph so they basically
slaughtered it. Just to prevent any other stupid
messages, no most muscle cars or sports cars like a
Lotus or Ferrari, while able to hit speed well over
138 do not have the endurance of engine or overall
vehicle mechanis to maintain for this long. Anyhow
Subaru was very happy with STi and wanted them to do
something else now. The logical place was the World
Rally Championship. Their start was a little rocky as
Subaru had never been a contender before now but one
of the biggest high points was the Group N win of the
Safari Rally that year of the Legacy. It was the
FIRST Group N car to ever complete the Safari Rally.
In 1992 they were doing really good and consistently
placing high but needed a car that handled a little
better and a few months later they had the Impreza.
Designed after the Legacy but with a smaller wheelbase
and a little bit less wide. Therefore the WRX is
really a smaller version of the Legacy built to handle
a little better. Note however that the extra handling
bringing them up an average of one place was enough to
give the the manufacturers title in 1995,96,and 97 and
Colin McRae the Driver title in 95 as well. I don't
know if you realize this but 2002 is the first year a
WRX is out in the state and they start out at about 25
grand. You can buy a Turbo Legacy and spend another
5-10 grand on it an smoke the WRX any day and still
spend less than 15 grand. One last thing, go to any
real Subaru mechanic, working on them for more than
5-10 years, and ask them what the best Subaru engine
ever made is and they WILL say the 2.2. It's not just
an opinion. These cars are the shit. Plus nothing
beats smoking riced out Hondas and Acuras in little
old school Subarus.
Grant Hughes
--- slags_83 <slags_83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ok now you do know the difference between the
> Impreza L and
> the WRX don't you?????
> I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because I
> know you are
> lieing, you just don't want to believe your Legacy
> is not the sports
> car you think it is...
>
>
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Legacy history. The Legacy was designed in 1989. A
little side division of Subaru, called Subaru Technica
International was formed at about the same time to
find a way for the Legacy to prove itself and to help
it when it came out. They started out with the
100,000 km drive. They secretly shipped three
Legacies to a raceway in Phoenix, AZ and ran the cars
for about 18 hours and an average speed of about 138
miles per hour and broke the record. The old record
had been set by a Saab (I think) and the avg. speed of
the old record was 123 mph so they basically
slaughtered it. Just to prevent any other stupid
messages, no most muscle cars or sports cars like a
Lotus or Ferrari, while able to hit speed well over
138 do not have the endurance of engine or overall
vehicle mechanis to maintain for this long. Anyhow
Subaru was very happy with STi and wanted them to do
something else now. The logical place was the World
Rally Championship. Their start was a little rocky as
Subaru had never been a contender before now but one
of the biggest high points was the Group N win of the
Safari Rally that year of the Legacy. It was the
FIRST Group N car to ever complete the Safari Rally.
In 1992 they were doing really good and consistently
placing high but needed a car that handled a little
better and a few months later they had the Impreza.
Designed after the Legacy but with a smaller wheelbase
and a little bit less wide. Therefore the WRX is
really a smaller version of the Legacy built to handle
a little better. Note however that the extra handling
bringing them up an average of one place was enough to
give the the manufacturers title in 1995,96,and 97 and
Colin McRae the Driver title in 95 as well. I don't
know if you realize this but 2002 is the first year a
WRX is out in the state and they start out at about 25
grand. You can buy a Turbo Legacy and spend another
5-10 grand on it an smoke the WRX any day and still
spend less than 15 grand. One last thing, go to any
real Subaru mechanic, working on them for more than
5-10 years, and ask them what the best Subaru engine
ever made is and they WILL say the 2.2. It's not just
an opinion. These cars are the shit. Plus nothing
beats smoking riced out Hondas and Acuras in little
old school Subarus.
Grant Hughes
--- slags_83 <slags_83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ok now you do know the difference between the
> Impreza L and
> the WRX don't you?????
> I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because I
> know you are
> lieing, you just don't want to believe your Legacy
> is not the sports
> car you think it is...
>
>
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Ross
Snorkus Removal
Grant let us not forget, those great feats of the Legacy you describe were
done in a Legacy with the 2.0 closed deck engine, i.e. the great RS.
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To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2002 25 PM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Snorkus Removal
> Okay Mike, just for fun I'll let you in on a little
> Legacy history. The Legacy was designed in 1989. A
> little side division of Subaru, called Subaru Technica
> International was formed at about the same time to
> find a way for the Legacy to prove itself and to help
> it when it came out. They started out with the
> 100,000 km drive. They secretly shipped three
> Legacies to a raceway in Phoenix, AZ and ran the cars
> for about 18 hours and an average speed of about 138
> miles per hour and broke the record. The old record
> had been set by a Saab (I think) and the avg. speed of
> the old record was 123 mph so they basically
> slaughtered it. Just to prevent any other stupid
> messages, no most muscle cars or sports cars like a
> Lotus or Ferrari, while able to hit speed well over
> 138 do not have the endurance of engine or overall
> vehicle mechanis to maintain for this long. Anyhow
> Subaru was very happy with STi and wanted them to do
> something else now. The logical place was the World
> Rally Championship. Their start was a little rocky as
> Subaru had never been a contender before now but one
> of the biggest high points was the Group N win of the
> Safari Rally that year of the Legacy. It was the
> FIRST Group N car to ever complete the Safari Rally.
> In 1992 they were doing really good and consistently
> placing high but needed a car that handled a little
> better and a few months later they had the Impreza.
> Designed after the Legacy but with a smaller wheelbase
> and a little bit less wide. Therefore the WRX is
> really a smaller version of the Legacy built to handle
> a little better. Note however that the extra handling
> bringing them up an average of one place was enough to
> give the the manufacturers title in 1995,96,and 97 and
> Colin McRae the Driver title in 95 as well. I don't
> know if you realize this but 2002 is the first year a
> WRX is out in the state and they start out at about 25
> grand. You can buy a Turbo Legacy and spend another
> 5-10 grand on it an smoke the WRX any day and still
> spend less than 15 grand. One last thing, go to any
> real Subaru mechanic, working on them for more than
> 5-10 years, and ask them what the best Subaru engine
> ever made is and they WILL say the 2.2. It's not just
> an opinion. These cars are the shit. Plus nothing
> beats smoking riced out Hondas and Acuras in little
> old school Subarus.
> Grant Hughes
>
> --- slags_83 <slags_83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Ok now you do know the difference between the
> > Impreza L and
> > the WRX don't you?????
> > I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because I
> > know you are
> > lieing, you just don't want to believe your Legacy
> > is not the sports
> > car you think it is...
> >
> >
>
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done in a Legacy with the 2.0 closed deck engine, i.e. the great RS.
----- Original Message -----
From: Grant Hughes <grantsubaru@yahoo.com>
To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2002 25 PM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Snorkus Removal
> Okay Mike, just for fun I'll let you in on a little
> Legacy history. The Legacy was designed in 1989. A
> little side division of Subaru, called Subaru Technica
> International was formed at about the same time to
> find a way for the Legacy to prove itself and to help
> it when it came out. They started out with the
> 100,000 km drive. They secretly shipped three
> Legacies to a raceway in Phoenix, AZ and ran the cars
> for about 18 hours and an average speed of about 138
> miles per hour and broke the record. The old record
> had been set by a Saab (I think) and the avg. speed of
> the old record was 123 mph so they basically
> slaughtered it. Just to prevent any other stupid
> messages, no most muscle cars or sports cars like a
> Lotus or Ferrari, while able to hit speed well over
> 138 do not have the endurance of engine or overall
> vehicle mechanis to maintain for this long. Anyhow
> Subaru was very happy with STi and wanted them to do
> something else now. The logical place was the World
> Rally Championship. Their start was a little rocky as
> Subaru had never been a contender before now but one
> of the biggest high points was the Group N win of the
> Safari Rally that year of the Legacy. It was the
> FIRST Group N car to ever complete the Safari Rally.
> In 1992 they were doing really good and consistently
> placing high but needed a car that handled a little
> better and a few months later they had the Impreza.
> Designed after the Legacy but with a smaller wheelbase
> and a little bit less wide. Therefore the WRX is
> really a smaller version of the Legacy built to handle
> a little better. Note however that the extra handling
> bringing them up an average of one place was enough to
> give the the manufacturers title in 1995,96,and 97 and
> Colin McRae the Driver title in 95 as well. I don't
> know if you realize this but 2002 is the first year a
> WRX is out in the state and they start out at about 25
> grand. You can buy a Turbo Legacy and spend another
> 5-10 grand on it an smoke the WRX any day and still
> spend less than 15 grand. One last thing, go to any
> real Subaru mechanic, working on them for more than
> 5-10 years, and ask them what the best Subaru engine
> ever made is and they WILL say the 2.2. It's not just
> an opinion. These cars are the shit. Plus nothing
> beats smoking riced out Hondas and Acuras in little
> old school Subarus.
> Grant Hughes
>
> --- slags_83 <slags_83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Ok now you do know the difference between the
> > Impreza L and
> > the WRX don't you?????
> > I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because I
> > know you are
> > lieing, you just don't want to believe your Legacy
> > is not the sports
> > car you think it is...
> >
> >
>
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Mark Ward
Snorkus Removal
Lets get the question correct here. Are u guys talking about beating a WRX
in a rally or straight line drag?
I posted 3 3rd fastest stage times in 2 Canadian Pro Rallies beating 2 evos,
several open class talons etc etc. In fact, if it wasnt for a 7 minute road
penalty, I would have been 4th OA at Bighorn rally (national rally)in
Alberta last year with a basically stock 2.2 Turbo. HOWEVER I would not even
think about saying that that setup is faster in a drag race against a WRX. I
dont know how much work you guys have done to your 2.2T, but from my
experience, my jump from a 2.2T to the 2.0 Turbo was quite a wake up in HP
difference.
You also have to factor in driver. I have met some people who can do
incredible things in cars with less HP. Look at Pat Richard with his 2.5RS.
Mark
www.rrunracing.com
-----Original Message-----
From: DNA_Man [mailto:dna_man@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:32 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Snorkus Removal
You know I am lying?
I can prove it. Obviously I wouldn't make such a claim without
evidence. The web site is down right now, and I don't expect you to
send, or even have, a thousand dollars (especially if you sunk it
into a WRX), but check out www.coloradorally.org under "results",
whenever the freekin site is back. I've clocked my Legacy at 0-60 in
9.5. I'm not sure how that compares to the WRX, but it doesn't
matter, results speak for them selves. Out of 17 subarus... 14 WRXs,
2 Legacys and one bad-ass 2.5RS, 3 of the WRXs beat me. I think
beating 11 WRXs in a car 10 years older is pretty freekin good, and
if you don't think so, that's your problem.
The difference between the Impreza L and WRX.
The Impreza L runs a single-cam 2212cc normally-aspirated flat 4.
The WRX has a 1998cc Turbo charged dual-cam flat 4 with an
intercooler.
And that's just the engines... do you take me for an idiot?
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "slags_83" <slags_83@y...> wrote:
> Ok now you do know the difference between the Impreza L and
> the WRX don't you?????
> I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because I know you are
> lieing, you just don't want to believe your Legacy is not the
sports
> car you think it is...
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in a rally or straight line drag?
I posted 3 3rd fastest stage times in 2 Canadian Pro Rallies beating 2 evos,
several open class talons etc etc. In fact, if it wasnt for a 7 minute road
penalty, I would have been 4th OA at Bighorn rally (national rally)in
Alberta last year with a basically stock 2.2 Turbo. HOWEVER I would not even
think about saying that that setup is faster in a drag race against a WRX. I
dont know how much work you guys have done to your 2.2T, but from my
experience, my jump from a 2.2T to the 2.0 Turbo was quite a wake up in HP
difference.
You also have to factor in driver. I have met some people who can do
incredible things in cars with less HP. Look at Pat Richard with his 2.5RS.
Mark
www.rrunracing.com
-----Original Message-----
From: DNA_Man [mailto:dna_man@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:32 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Snorkus Removal
You know I am lying?
I can prove it. Obviously I wouldn't make such a claim without
evidence. The web site is down right now, and I don't expect you to
send, or even have, a thousand dollars (especially if you sunk it
into a WRX), but check out www.coloradorally.org under "results",
whenever the freekin site is back. I've clocked my Legacy at 0-60 in
9.5. I'm not sure how that compares to the WRX, but it doesn't
matter, results speak for them selves. Out of 17 subarus... 14 WRXs,
2 Legacys and one bad-ass 2.5RS, 3 of the WRXs beat me. I think
beating 11 WRXs in a car 10 years older is pretty freekin good, and
if you don't think so, that's your problem.
The difference between the Impreza L and WRX.
The Impreza L runs a single-cam 2212cc normally-aspirated flat 4.
The WRX has a 1998cc Turbo charged dual-cam flat 4 with an
intercooler.
And that's just the engines... do you take me for an idiot?
--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "slags_83" <slags_83@y...> wrote:
> Ok now you do know the difference between the Impreza L and
> the WRX don't you?????
> I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because I know you are
> lieing, you just don't want to believe your Legacy is not the
sports
> car you think it is...
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Ryan Lalonde
Snorkus Removal
Nice work Grant. I personally think that the 2.2l is the shit as well. Why? Lets see here. Ok, ask any mechanic.... What is going to make your car faster? Displacement. The 2.2l is a basically a bored out version of a 2.0 correct? I think if you did the same work to a 2.2l you'd see more gain. but then again those damn 2.0l are like super high compression... fast...
Ross wrote:
Grant let us not forget, those great feats of the Legacy you describe were
done in a Legacy with the 2.0 closed deck engine, i.e. the great RS.
----- Original Message -----
From: Grant Hughes <mailto:grantsubaru@yahoo.com> <grantsubaru@yahoo.com>
To: <mailto:BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com> <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2002 25 PM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Snorkus Removal
> Okay Mike, just for fun I'll let you in on a little
> Legacy history. The Legacy was designed in 1989. A
> little side division of Subaru, called Subaru Technica
> International was formed at about the same time to
> find a way for the Legacy to prove itself and to help
> it when it came out. They started out with the
> 100,000 km drive. They secretly shipped three
> Legacies to a raceway in Phoenix, AZ and ran the cars
> for about 18 hours and an average speed of about 138
> miles per hour and broke the record. The old record
> had been set by a Saab (I think) and the avg. speed of
> the old record was 123 mph so they basically
> slaughtered it. Just to prevent any other stupid
> messages, no most muscle cars or sports cars like a
> Lotus or Ferrari, while able to hit speed well over
> 138 do not have the endurance of engine or overall
> vehicle mechanis to maintain for this long. Anyhow
> Subaru was very happy with STi and wanted them to do
> something else now. The logical place was the World
> Rally Championship. Their start was a little rocky as
> Subaru had never been a contender before now but one
> of the biggest high points was the Group N win of the
> Safari Rally that year of the Legacy. It was the
> FIRST Group N car to ever complete the Safari Rally.
> In 1992 they were doing really good and consistently
> placing high but needed a car that handled a little
> better and a few months later they had the Impreza.
> Designed after the Legacy but with a smaller wheelbase
> and a little bit less wide. Therefore the WRX is
> really a smaller version of the Legacy built to handle
> a little better. Note however that the extra handling
> bringing them up an average of one place was enough to
> give the the manufacturers title in 1995,96,and 97 and
> Colin McRae the Driver title in 95 as well. I don't
> know if you realize this but 2002 is the first year a
> WRX is out in the state and they start out at about 25
> grand. You can buy a Turbo Legacy and spend another
> 5-10 grand on it an smoke the WRX any day and still
> spend less than 15 grand. One last thing, go to any
> real Subaru mechanic, working on them for more than
> 5-10 years, and ask them what the best Subaru engine
> ever made is and they WILL say the 2.2. It's not just
> an opinion. These cars are the shit. Plus nothing
> beats smoking riced out Hondas and Acuras in little
> old school Subarus.
> Grant Hughes
>
> --- slags_83 <mailto:slags_83@yahoo.com> <slags_83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Ok now you do know the difference between the
> > Impreza L and
> > the WRX don't you?????
> > I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because I
> > know you are
> > lieing, you just don't want to believe your Legacy
> > is not the sports
> > car you think it is...
> >
> >
>
>
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Ross wrote:
Grant let us not forget, those great feats of the Legacy you describe were
done in a Legacy with the 2.0 closed deck engine, i.e. the great RS.
----- Original Message -----
From: Grant Hughes <mailto:grantsubaru@yahoo.com> <grantsubaru@yahoo.com>
To: <mailto:BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com> <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2002 25 PM
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Snorkus Removal
> Okay Mike, just for fun I'll let you in on a little
> Legacy history. The Legacy was designed in 1989. A
> little side division of Subaru, called Subaru Technica
> International was formed at about the same time to
> find a way for the Legacy to prove itself and to help
> it when it came out. They started out with the
> 100,000 km drive. They secretly shipped three
> Legacies to a raceway in Phoenix, AZ and ran the cars
> for about 18 hours and an average speed of about 138
> miles per hour and broke the record. The old record
> had been set by a Saab (I think) and the avg. speed of
> the old record was 123 mph so they basically
> slaughtered it. Just to prevent any other stupid
> messages, no most muscle cars or sports cars like a
> Lotus or Ferrari, while able to hit speed well over
> 138 do not have the endurance of engine or overall
> vehicle mechanis to maintain for this long. Anyhow
> Subaru was very happy with STi and wanted them to do
> something else now. The logical place was the World
> Rally Championship. Their start was a little rocky as
> Subaru had never been a contender before now but one
> of the biggest high points was the Group N win of the
> Safari Rally that year of the Legacy. It was the
> FIRST Group N car to ever complete the Safari Rally.
> In 1992 they were doing really good and consistently
> placing high but needed a car that handled a little
> better and a few months later they had the Impreza.
> Designed after the Legacy but with a smaller wheelbase
> and a little bit less wide. Therefore the WRX is
> really a smaller version of the Legacy built to handle
> a little better. Note however that the extra handling
> bringing them up an average of one place was enough to
> give the the manufacturers title in 1995,96,and 97 and
> Colin McRae the Driver title in 95 as well. I don't
> know if you realize this but 2002 is the first year a
> WRX is out in the state and they start out at about 25
> grand. You can buy a Turbo Legacy and spend another
> 5-10 grand on it an smoke the WRX any day and still
> spend less than 15 grand. One last thing, go to any
> real Subaru mechanic, working on them for more than
> 5-10 years, and ask them what the best Subaru engine
> ever made is and they WILL say the 2.2. It's not just
> an opinion. These cars are the shit. Plus nothing
> beats smoking riced out Hondas and Acuras in little
> old school Subarus.
> Grant Hughes
>
> --- slags_83 <mailto:slags_83@yahoo.com> <slags_83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Ok now you do know the difference between the
> > Impreza L and
> > the WRX don't you?????
> > I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because I
> > know you are
> > lieing, you just don't want to believe your Legacy
> > is not the sports
> > car you think it is...
> >
> >
>
>
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Grant Hughes
Snorkus Removal
I even messed up and said 18 hours was all it took to
do the 100000 km run. It was actually eighteen days.
My mistake.
--- Ryan Lalonde <dc-burnout@rogers.com> wrote:
> Nice work Grant. I personally think that the 2.2l
> is the shit as well.
> Why? Lets see here. Ok, ask any mechanic.... What
> is going to make
> your car faster? Displacement. The 2.2l is a
> basically a bored out
> version of a 2.0 correct? I think if you did the
> same work to a 2.2l
> you'd see more gain. but then again those damn 2.0l
> are like super high
> compression... fast...
>
> Ross wrote:
>
> > Grant let us not forget, those great feats of the
> Legacy you describe were
> > done in a Legacy with the 2.0 closed deck engine,
> i.e. the great RS.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Grant Hughes <grantsubaru@yahoo.com>
> > To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2002 25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Snorkus
> Removal
> >
> >
> > > Okay Mike, just for fun I'll let you in on a
> little
> > > Legacy history. The Legacy was designed in
> 1989. A
> > > little side division of Subaru, called Subaru
> Technica
> > > International was formed at about the same time
> to
> > > find a way for the Legacy to prove itself and to
> help
> > > it when it came out. They started out with the
> > > 100,000 km drive. They secretly shipped three
> > > Legacies to a raceway in Phoenix, AZ and ran the
> cars
> > > for about 18 hours and an average speed of about
> 138
> > > miles per hour and broke the record. The old
> record
> > > had been set by a Saab (I think) and the avg.
> speed of
> > > the old record was 123 mph so they basically
> > > slaughtered it. Just to prevent any other
> stupid
> > > messages, no most muscle cars or sports cars
> like a
> > > Lotus or Ferrari, while able to hit speed well
> over
> > > 138 do not have the endurance of engine or
> overall
> > > vehicle mechanis to maintain for this long.
> Anyhow
> > > Subaru was very happy with STi and wanted them
> to do
> > > something else now. The logical place was the
> World
> > > Rally Championship. Their start was a little
> rocky as
> > > Subaru had never been a contender before now but
> one
> > > of the biggest high points was the Group N win
> of the
> > > Safari Rally that year of the Legacy. It was
> the
> > > FIRST Group N car to ever complete the Safari
> Rally.
> > > In 1992 they were doing really good and
> consistently
> > > placing high but needed a car that handled a
> little
> > > better and a few months later they had the
> Impreza.
> > > Designed after the Legacy but with a smaller
> wheelbase
> > > and a little bit less wide. Therefore the WRX
> is
> > > really a smaller version of the Legacy built to
> handle
> > > a little better. Note however that the extra
> handling
> > > bringing them up an average of one place was
> enough to
> > > give the the manufacturers title in 1995,96,and
> 97 and
> > > Colin McRae the Driver title in 95 as well. I
> don't
> > > know if you realize this but 2002 is the first
> year a
> > > WRX is out in the state and they start out at
> about 25
> > > grand. You can buy a Turbo Legacy and spend
> another
> > > 5-10 grand on it an smoke the WRX any day and
> still
> > > spend less than 15 grand. One last thing, go to
> any
> > > real Subaru mechanic, working on them for more
> than
> > > 5-10 years, and ask them what the best Subaru
> engine
> > > ever made is and they WILL say the 2.2. It's
> not just
> > > an opinion. These cars are the shit. Plus
> nothing
> > > beats smoking riced out Hondas and Acuras in
> little
> > > old school Subarus.
> > > Grant Hughes
> > >
> > > --- slags_83 <slags_83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Ok now you do know the difference between the
> > > > Impreza L and
> > > > the WRX don't you?????
> > > > I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because
> I
> > > > know you are
> > > > lieing, you just don't want to believe your
> Legacy
> > > > is not the sports
> > > > car you think it is...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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do the 100000 km run. It was actually eighteen days.
My mistake.
--- Ryan Lalonde <dc-burnout@rogers.com> wrote:
> Nice work Grant. I personally think that the 2.2l
> is the shit as well.
> Why? Lets see here. Ok, ask any mechanic.... What
> is going to make
> your car faster? Displacement. The 2.2l is a
> basically a bored out
> version of a 2.0 correct? I think if you did the
> same work to a 2.2l
> you'd see more gain. but then again those damn 2.0l
> are like super high
> compression... fast...
>
> Ross wrote:
>
> > Grant let us not forget, those great feats of the
> Legacy you describe were
> > done in a Legacy with the 2.0 closed deck engine,
> i.e. the great RS.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Grant Hughes <grantsubaru@yahoo.com>
> > To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2002 25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Snorkus
> Removal
> >
> >
> > > Okay Mike, just for fun I'll let you in on a
> little
> > > Legacy history. The Legacy was designed in
> 1989. A
> > > little side division of Subaru, called Subaru
> Technica
> > > International was formed at about the same time
> to
> > > find a way for the Legacy to prove itself and to
> help
> > > it when it came out. They started out with the
> > > 100,000 km drive. They secretly shipped three
> > > Legacies to a raceway in Phoenix, AZ and ran the
> cars
> > > for about 18 hours and an average speed of about
> 138
> > > miles per hour and broke the record. The old
> record
> > > had been set by a Saab (I think) and the avg.
> speed of
> > > the old record was 123 mph so they basically
> > > slaughtered it. Just to prevent any other
> stupid
> > > messages, no most muscle cars or sports cars
> like a
> > > Lotus or Ferrari, while able to hit speed well
> over
> > > 138 do not have the endurance of engine or
> overall
> > > vehicle mechanis to maintain for this long.
> Anyhow
> > > Subaru was very happy with STi and wanted them
> to do
> > > something else now. The logical place was the
> World
> > > Rally Championship. Their start was a little
> rocky as
> > > Subaru had never been a contender before now but
> one
> > > of the biggest high points was the Group N win
> of the
> > > Safari Rally that year of the Legacy. It was
> the
> > > FIRST Group N car to ever complete the Safari
> Rally.
> > > In 1992 they were doing really good and
> consistently
> > > placing high but needed a car that handled a
> little
> > > better and a few months later they had the
> Impreza.
> > > Designed after the Legacy but with a smaller
> wheelbase
> > > and a little bit less wide. Therefore the WRX
> is
> > > really a smaller version of the Legacy built to
> handle
> > > a little better. Note however that the extra
> handling
> > > bringing them up an average of one place was
> enough to
> > > give the the manufacturers title in 1995,96,and
> 97 and
> > > Colin McRae the Driver title in 95 as well. I
> don't
> > > know if you realize this but 2002 is the first
> year a
> > > WRX is out in the state and they start out at
> about 25
> > > grand. You can buy a Turbo Legacy and spend
> another
> > > 5-10 grand on it an smoke the WRX any day and
> still
> > > spend less than 15 grand. One last thing, go to
> any
> > > real Subaru mechanic, working on them for more
> than
> > > 5-10 years, and ask them what the best Subaru
> engine
> > > ever made is and they WILL say the 2.2. It's
> not just
> > > an opinion. These cars are the shit. Plus
> nothing
> > > beats smoking riced out Hondas and Acuras in
> little
> > > old school Subarus.
> > > Grant Hughes
> > >
> > > --- slags_83 <slags_83@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Ok now you do know the difference between the
> > > > Impreza L and
> > > > the WRX don't you?????
> > > > I'm not going to send you 1000 dollars because
> I
> > > > know you are
> > > > lieing, you just don't want to believe your
> Legacy
> > > > is not the sports
> > > > car you think it is...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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>Ok, ask any mechanic.... What is going to make
>your car faster? Displacement. The 2.2l is a basically a bored out
>version of a 2.0 correct?
A bigger turbo. A JATO pack. Lightening helps too.
The USDM 2.2 is NOT a bored out version of the overseas 2L.
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>your car faster? Displacement. The 2.2l is a basically a bored out
>version of a 2.0 correct?
A bigger turbo. A JATO pack. Lightening helps too.
The USDM 2.2 is NOT a bored out version of the overseas 2L.
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